Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

[coogrfan]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

you know what forget it. you can all continue to be salves keep thinking the corperation care about you. your 666 chips(mark of the beast) are all most ready continue to live in your fantasy land your masters created for you. you have been warned sheep, your living in the last days yasha(Jesus) is coming back soon enjoy your life or whats lift of it.

oh yeah EA is apart of this NWO as well not only them but Hollywood, The President, Police, Military, Music Industry, the public school/college/university system all the Celebrates, Politicians hell even the pope LOL and most of the world leaders all under 666 the roll of masons/Lucifer no one is on your side LOL. the matrix is not just a movie, repent now Satan is ready to reveal this is his world soon.

good day sheep.

Well, that was...interesting.

[SAMKAVELI NFL FOOTBALL]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

If you believe in god read your bible it confirms the events of the last days. were leaving in them right now today, don't trust any of the corporations/government etc etc trust in Jesus Christ he is the way. don't go to church they will not drop this truth cause much like EA they just want your money. repent the lord is upon us, the dollar will collapse the economy is fulling by design so then y'all will be welling to take the chip you have no one on your side because they(Illuminati)kills them before they can expose this Malcolm x, MLK ,JFK, Lincoln even Tupac(many others) was killed for trying to expose the plain.

this tread can be locked now.

[CreatineKasey]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

I liked the fresh opinion. I've been tricked by the hype machine too many times to discount critical articles like this.

I do think EA tried to discredit their opinion by pointing out their misrepresentations, which were fairly insignificant in my opinion. The message is still the same - they weren't very impressed.

The guys who don't accept criticism always come out of the woodworks in these threads and start bashing the website... just funny to me . It's okay not to agree guys... part of life. Doesn't make them wrong, doesn't make you wrong.

The review probably doesn't apply too closely to us. From his casual sports gamer perspective, not much impresses him so far. That's' fine. I really think us hardcore gamers are in for a treat with this technology. It improves finer parts of the game, which we notice.

[Child Rebel]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

I liked the fresh opinion. I've been tricked by the hype machine too many times to discount critical articles like this.

I do think EA tried to discredit their opinion by pointing out their misrepresentations, which were fairly insignificant in my opinion. The message is still the same - they weren't very impressed.

The guys who don't accept criticism always come out of the woodworks in these threads and start bashing the website... just funny to me . It's okay not to agree guys... part of life. Doesn't make them wrong, doesn't make you wrong.

The review probably doesn't apply too closely to us. From his casual sports gamer perspective, not much impresses him so far. That's' fine. I really think us hardcore gamers are in for a treat with this technology. It improves finer parts of the game, which we notice.

Good post, although I can almost guarantee the writer of this article has played more Madden and other sports simulations than almost any poster on this board. They know more about games, they play more, it's their job.

[SouthernBrick]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

you know what forget it. you can all continue to be salves keep thinking the corperation care about you. your 666 chips(mark of the beast) are all most ready continue to live in your fantasy land your masters created for you. you have been warned sheep, your living in the last days yasha(Jesus) is coming back soon enjoy your life or whats lift of it.

oh yeah EA is apart of this NWO as well not only them but Hollywood, The President, Police, Military, Music Industry, the public school/college/university system all the Celebrates, Politicians hell even the pope LOL and most of the world leaders all under 666 the roll of masons/Lucifer no one is on your side LOL. the matrix is not just a movie, repent now Satan is ready to reveal this is his world soon.

good day sheep.

Get a life (Whats left of it).

[Cnada]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

I really think that for madden to really begin to revolutionize it needs a two year development cycle. Being here at OS with daily interaction with the developers does make us bias and if you look at its from outsides perspective they are absolutely right. Heres what to do!

1. Release a new madden every 2 years!!

Pros -> More time leads to much more thought out and bigger features, atm big ticket items like pro-tak get split into sections to be developed in a 1 year cycle

-A free roster update for the second year would make fans feel rewarded for waiting 2 years and increasing replay ability

Cons -> Half the profit! Hence throwing this idea out the window no EA executive would have the guts to make that decision

2. 2 Development team like Call of duty

Pros -> More innovation every year, able to add true Sequel like features

Cons -> Higher cost

Who said a revolution of madden was easy? These are just big ideas IF they really want to think big! Take madden to a new level

[HealyMonster]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

you know what forget it. you can all continue to be salves keep thinking the corperation care about you. your 666 chips(mark of the beast) are all most ready continue to live in your fantasy land your masters created for you. you have been warned sheep, your living in the last days yasha(Jesus) is coming back soon enjoy your life or whats lift of it.

oh yeah EA is apart of this NWO as well not only them but Hollywood, The President, Police, Military, Music Industry, the public school/college/university system all the Celebrates, Politicians hell even the pope LOL and most of the world leaders all under 666 the roll of masons/Lucifer no one is on your side LOL. the matrix is not just a movie, repent now Satan is ready to reveal this is his world soon.

good day sheep.

Im concerned that this guy has been lurking here since 2006 and this is the first Ive seen him

.......wipes profile of all personal info..........


anyways, I really really wish people would wait until E3 until they pass judgement. I have been a madden basher, Ive cursed them and yada yada yada, Ian has earned his shot and i think we should give it to him. "his shot" is not a 2 minute video and Joystiq seems to want to know what they are talking about more than they actually know what they are talking about. my opinion of course.

[JMBOO]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

Honestly, this article says what many here are thinking. Nuff said on that. If Madden devs really want to show us something, show it on the field, as they say, not , in the talking. Much as Sam Raimi has rediscovered his true genius, I can only hope that the devs here are honestly trying to rediscover what made Madden great. All the talk and videos mean naught, unless the final product makes us forget the failures of the past. That is what I want. Hopefully, that is what you want, and even more hopefully, that is what we get. Anything less, will be failure in not just my eyes, but the eyes of many who have propped up this aging 800 pound gorilla for the past 20 years. Not trying to be mean or hateful, just saying how it is. And to the devs, if it is not perfect, and I do mean perfect, do you really think anyone will let you slide? Do you think anyone will accept less than THE GREATEST FOOTBALL GAME OF ALL TIME. Not just that, but, a game that will be called one of the greatest of all time? There is only one way to go on this, and, while I am 100% sure there will be a few that will once again accept less than mediocre, is there any way that you think that most will accept less than greatness? Once again, not trying to be mean, only saying one thing, the proof is in the pudding. If you can not make it great, then, maybe it should be put back until it is. EA has done it before, and, this is one of those years as well. In the immortal words of the true Jedi master, do, or do not, there is no try.

[Nintari]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

Honestly, this article says what many here are thinking. Nuff said on that. If Madden devs really want to show us something, show it on the field, as they say, not , in the talking. Much as Sam Raimi has rediscovered his true genius, I can only hope that the devs here are honestly trying to rediscover what made Madden great. All the talk and videos mean naught, unless the final product makes us forget the failures of the past. That is what I want. Hopefully, that is what you want, and even more hopefully, that is what we get. Anything less, will be failure in not just my eyes, but the eyes of many who have propped up this aging 800 pound gorilla for the past 20 years. Not trying to be mean or hateful, just saying how it is. And to the devs, if it is not perfect, and I do mean perfect, do you really think anyone will let you slide? Do you think anyone will accept less than THE GREATEST FOOTBALL GAME OF ALL TIME. Not just that, but, a game that will be called one of the greatest of all time? There is only one way to go on this, and, while I am 100% sure there will be a few that will once again accept less than mediocre, is there any way that you think that most will accept less than greatness? Once again, not trying to be mean, only saying one thing, the proof is in the pudding. If you can not make it great, then, maybe it should be put back until it is. EA has done it before, and, this is one of those years as well. In the immortal words of the true Jedi master, do, or do not, there is no try.

If Madden 2010 doesn't make me forget about 2k5, then...FAIL. I fully expect Ian and co. to deliver that or I'll pass until next year.


Five years to outdo a PS2 game is reasonable enough IMO.

[SmokeCapone]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

My way of looking at all this is the exact same as CNADA.

I wish we did have a new DISC VERSION of madden every 2 years with roster updates and pathces that address the current state of the game thruought the time would be great too. If there's a major cheat or glitch then it should be patched up and accounts reset at the beggining of the next football season.

But I really doubt this would work for EA seeing as theres not really too much you could add to the game besides that gameplay immersion and feel once its all said and done.

I would like a Madden 365 even though I havent played live in years, I hear that feature was very good and on point.

I give IAN and Co. credit they deserve for taking this into a new direction and I really hope it pays off in august. I for one just hate the online cheating and abuse that goes on day in and day out. I would like just an even playing field and let great playcalling be the determining factor for winning games and not some pause and audible glitch crap or QBs walking into the locker room glitch.

Oh and IAN, I dont want just a couple attempts at fixing issues with the game like you did for 09, I would like constant fixes and tweaks if and when needed. And please have someone monitoring cheaters and crap by having to force them into matches with moderators based off of feedback and records that look "to good to be true".

[mccullough13]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

If you believe in god read your bible it confirms the events of the last days. were leaving in them right now today, don't trust any of the corporations/government etc etc trust in Jesus Christ he is the way. don't go to church they will not drop this truth cause much like EA they just want your money. repent the lord is upon us, the dollar will collapse the economy is fulling by design so then y'all will be welling to take the chip you have no one on your side because they(Illuminati)kills them before they can expose this Malcolm x, MLK ,JFK, Lincoln even Tupac(many others) was killed for trying to expose the plain.

this tread can be locked now.

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http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

[MJenness]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

That's the thing I don't understand about EA and the Madden team. Why get angry at reviews and/or people when they are voicing their likes or dislikes about a series that has been problematic yearly? Developers of the Madden series should be mad at themselves for putting out lackluster games yearly.

In regard to Maden 09, I don't see how anyone can say it was a good game. That game had so many problems (two major problems stem from Freezing Franchise and unrealistic gameplay) and gave me a headache in 1 month, I got so tired and sold it.

Wow, at least I'm no the ONLY one who thinks this way. I even opened a thread (which was of course closed within minutes) asking WHY Ian decided to duck out of here until release. The comments and criticisms I read were legit....maybe HARSH, but true!

I really don't know what they expected....were we supposed to jizz all over ourselves when we saw these videos?? When, to me, there were SO many glaring issues in a very SHORT video, surely there are many more and larger problems if we saw a full game!

So, now he's (Ian) tucked tail and walked away.....makes NO sense. This is the same man who touted ALL year how we were goona' be blown away this year....HE made these promises, now he's upset because we just don't see much progress.

It's easy to "talk the talk", but now when it's time to "walk the walk", he walks AWAY!

[JEM]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

You can't tell me that Madden 09 played like Madden 08. You can't.

I actually thought it was much worse than 08.. Matter of fact I could only stomach 2 weeks of it before I took it back for credit and got The Show. Normally I can make it through 1 or 2 seasons of Madden before being bored stiff / tired of the arcade and unrealistic aspects.

As for Joystiq.. I dont read them but they have said the same thing many here have said.. Maybe the new guys can bring the game back to sim land but I am not getting high hopes as long as Tiburon is involved.. Its time to cut them loose. And the horrible engine they use.. Not a good engine for a next gen Football game.

[Nintari]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA press reset? (Joystiq)

I actually thought it was much worse than 08.. Matter of fact I could only stomach 2 weeks of it before I took it back for credit and got The Show. Normally I can make it through 1 or 2 seasons of Madden before being bored stiff / tired of the arcade and unrealistic aspects.

As for Joystiq.. I dont read them but they have said the same thing many here have said.. Maybe the new guys can bring the game back to sim land but I am not getting high hopes as long as Tiburon is involved.. Its time to cut them loose. And the horrible engine they use.. Not a good engine for a next gen Football game.

I actually agree about the engine issue. The team isn't really the problem IMO, it's the engine. Take a look at 2k8. It's gameplay is superior to Madden and that's all thanks to VC's engine.

Of course, reinventing a new engine this late in the game would cause some serious issues/hiccups, but it's probably the only way Madden will ever get back to the PS2 games of the past.

[JEM]

Re: Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

Is protak responsible for wr/db jostling? If it is than this vid is missing 2 major components to the final game imo. That jostling is supposed to help level the playing field so slower but talented dbs can cover a fast wr who is otherwise below avg. Why would ea release this as the first gameplay footage if it is missing such crucial pieces?

Wait a sec... So Pro Tak is just there to cover poor core game design? Makes sense as " Lead Blocker control " was there to try and hide the very very bad line play or a stupid FB who would forget to block.

Looks like people are already falling for the next " Madden Feature " that really isnt a feature but an attempt to hide poor design. Par for the course.