Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

[Bgamer90]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

Ummmmm you guys who are getting excited about the coin toss and the QB talkin on the phone do realize that all of that was in NFL 2k5 right? Madden's presentation is so far behind that it really makes me wonder how much farther along the 2k series would be if it never had to stop production...Oh well, I can only wonder. EA really hasn't pushed the envelope at all. Shoot, what makes it all the more farcical is that visual concepts found a way to put these things on their game on the XBOX. They haven't even had the oppurtunity to make NFL football games on this generation of videogame consoles! Step it up EA

lol... so let me get this straight. After all the years that madden this gen got dissed for it not having presentation for the coin toss, players training on sidelines etc., the same ones are dissing it now just because 2k5 had it??

Unreal... freakin' unreal...

you are correct. the engine is not working, the animation engine is not working,the locomotion is not working,the graphics engine is not working, the player model/field height weight ratio is not working. the player models are not working.

the only thing that could save madden is to start from scratch ea needs to get this through there head. there going to have to skip a year or even two years to develope a new football game.
as far as i am concerned the developers fan interaction has done nothing but add accesories and fluff to the game when the mechanics are still broken

lol... if all those "engines" were 100% broken we would have a game that is nothing but a black screen.

Man... you are ridiculous. Is there problems that need to be fixed? Yeah. But to say that everything about the game is completely broken is just flippin' crazy and takes the typical madden bashing to a whole new level.

People have been complaining for 4 or 5 yrs that presentation was needed big time for Madden. Now, Ian and company have heard the complaints, and now all they here was , this was in 2k5 before.

Madden can't win.

Exactly.

No matter what madden does to improve from here on out, the bashing will still be there. Even if Madden 10+ are great football games, the bashing will still continue, and it's obvious since the bashing that's going on now is so stupid and is basically nothing but a big overexaggeration in just about all cases.

[Bgamer90]

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I really think if Madden to be as realistic as we want it to be, the thing it needs is a complete makeover in the locomotion department.

Yeah I agree. Locomotion needs to be worked on. Players still turn on a dime...

And yes I know its an early build, but seriously, how much are you expecting it to change come August. What we are seeing right now is probably very close to what we are getting.

But the thing is though that that vid had a lot of stuff cut from it so we didn't see everything. Also, the game's difficulty setting is on pro, and as stated by Ian, the difficulty settings (rookie/pro vs. all-pro/all-madden) will be VERY different in play. Also, this is the new head dev team's first year this gen with madden. We can't base how much can be done from here until the game goes gold on how in it was at the same time period for previous years since there's different people in the head making the decisions.

I can't wait for more recent vids to come. I'm hoping we could somehow get an all-pro/all-madden vid of the game...

[roadman]

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What good is presentation when the gameplay still looks like this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjFXnJc0Q0U

I'll give you a better answer after Aug. 14th when I actually play it for hours instead of giving a preliminary critical eye to the game 2.5 months before it comes out.

All I care abut is if game play is improved, and presentation has vastly improved since 09.

[J_FRANK]

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Pretty crazy thread, here's my take.


It's a shame there is only one Pro Football game. 2004 was a great year that brought good competition between 2k & Madden.
Ea secured the license and 2K was no more. Madden in my eyes has not replaced that empty void the 2k gamers feel.

All-Pro Football 2k8 was good but lacked features and was ultimately missing a lot of things.

Madden 2010 from what I've seen has not really impressed me. The #1 thing that bothers me are the animations. The way players move ( everyone) just doesn't seem rite to me.

It's cool that the Devs interact with the forums, 2k devs are no where to be found...... So that's a + to EA.

Madden has had about 4 years now to perfect their engine & they still have not achieved it.

My last post in this thread, here's hoping that 2k can get the license back to make football games and Ea gets the license back to make baseball games so us as the consumer can have options in games that we prefer.


Ian your never going to convince 2k gamers...........

peace

[olemish]

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After watching the video about 30 times, here's my conclusion.
1. The graphics are great
2. The snickers advertisement has to go.
3. Hammond sucks but would be much better if he would be quiet during the entire pregame and replace that with stadium noise, music ect and just let him do play by play. Would also be alot better if he would call players by name... i know it can be done.
4. Fans aren't always jumping around and dancing in the stands... save that for when a touchdown or turnover happens.
5. Pressure needs to get there quicker, small graphics issues, turning on a dime, procedural awareness and synchronization problems which all of these I expect to be fixed before the game ships so no problem there really.
6. Fans look too much alike... just lazy there.

more when I think of them

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

Pretty crazy thread, here's my take.


It's a shame there is only one Pro Football game. 2004 was a great year that brought good competition between 2k & Madden.
Ea secured the license and 2K was no more. Madden in my eyes has not replaced that empty void the 2k gamers feel.

All-Pro Football 2k8 was good but lacked features and was ultimately missing a lot of things.

Madden 2010 from what I've seen has not really impressed me. The #1 thing that bothers me are the animations. The way players move ( everyone) just doesn't seem rite to me.

It's cool that the Devs interact with the forums, 2k devs are no where to be found...... So that's a + to EA.

Madden has had about 4 years now to perfect their engine & they still have not achieved it.

My last post in this thread, here's hoping that 2k can get the license back to make football games and Ea gets the license back to make baseball games so us as the consumer can have options in games that we prefer.


Ian your never going to convince 2k gamers...........

peace

You are right, this is a pretty crazy thread with a ton of optimism for the future.

[WFColonel56]

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Its funny how people say players still turn on a dime when Ian did a blog on this very subject.....He said that THEY MADE THE TURN WIDER IF THE PLAYER IS HOLDING THE SPRNT BUTTON..... We dont know that the player was holding sprint or not so to say that momentem hasnt changed is just stupid

[Moegames]

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here we go again!!!!. you would think by adding these things they are stepping it up...............c'mon people lay off EA . lets wait till after E3 to make a final decision about madden

I totally agree...atleast they are addressing the badly needed presentation...i was hyped by the cut scenes..it'll bring the game to life much more along with the other presentation stuff they are doing

[Valdarez]

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It's cool that the Devs interact with the forums, 2k devs are no where to be found...... So that's a + to EA.

Agreed. I was really looking forward to reading Ian's explanation of what made it, what didn't, and why. He really got a lot of respect in my eyes when he said he was going to write it up, but then immediately after when the first real game play comes out, he decides to take a break. I know E3 is this week, I think EA would have been better served if he had said he needed to focus on E3 this week (which was understandable, it's crazy there right?) instead of saying he was taking a break from the forums due to the negative feedback. The mods here at OS are pretty good at shutting down the guys that just harrass / take things off topic. When there's uncertaninty, or questions regarding the game, that's when you need your representative. Hyping the game by revealing features early is great, but being there to explain why it doesn't meet fan's expectations is even more important.

[PlyrzNumber1]

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TJ will be handing out alot of red cards in the future.

This attitude/culture from the mods has got to stop. I haven't seen a single personal attack at Ian or the dev team. I see a lot of people underwhelmed with what they saw on the video, that's it. Freely being able to comment on impressions of the video, and relating that to previous frustrations of the game (in the specific games forum) seems very relevant to me. Why this would be shot down, locked, or people being red-carded (as you put it) is just a ridiculous and immature idea, imo.

[Bgamer90]

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This attitude/culture from the mods has got to stop. I haven't seen a single personal attack at Ian or the dev team. I see a lot of people underwhelmed with what they saw on the video, that's it. Freely being able to comment on impressions of the video, and relating that to previous frustrations of the game (in the specific games forum) seems very relevant to me. Why this would be shot down, locked, or people being red-carded (as you put it) is just a ridiculous and immature idea, imo.

There's a difference between constructive criticism and mindless bashing.

If you haven't seen at least one post here that was nothing but typical troll bash, then I want to know what type of OS filter you have because I would really like to have it too lol.

[MUSS]

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Its funny how people say players still turn on a dime when Ian did a blog on this very subject.....He said that THEY MADE THE TURN WIDER IF THE PLAYER IS HOLDING THE SPRNT BUTTON..... We dont know that the player was holding sprint or not so to say that momentem hasnt changed is just stupid

Holding sprint should not matter at all. Players never move or turn like that period. It doesnt matter if they are sprinting or not. A person still needs to turn around, there was not turning around or planting. It should obviously be more prevalent when sprinting, but there should be momentum regardless.

Locomotion for Madden has been straight wack. I wish it hasnt been, I really do. But it has been. That video shows that it will continue. So they changed the game from the outside first. Like doing plastic surgery before fixing broken bones. Everything in gameplay has to do with how the players move. Once thats right, then move on to all the nice nuances.

[Valdarez]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Gameplay Video: Eagles @ Cowboys (IGN)

Its funny how people say players still turn on a dime when Ian did a blog on this very subject.....He said that THEY MADE THE TURN WIDER IF THE PLAYER IS HOLDING THE SPRNT BUTTON..... We dont know that the player was holding sprint or not so to say that momentem hasnt changed is just stupid

There have been instant turns in nearly every game play video released to date of Madden '10. This does not appear to be fixed, and Ian has already stated that locomotion (movement/momentum) will not be addressed in Madden 10 (though they are trying to do what they can to fix various momentum related bugs/issues within the confines of the existing framework).

[PlyrzNumber1]

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Agreed. I was really looking forward to reading Ian's explanation of what made it, what didn't, and why. He really got a lot of respect in my eyes when he said he was going to write it up, but then immediately after when the first real game play comes out, he decides to take a break. I know E3 is this week, I think EA would have been better served if he had said he needed to focus on E3 this week (which was understandable, it's crazy there right?) instead of saying he was taking a break from the forums due to the negative feedback.

Yes. And Ian has to find a way to separate his personal life from his work life. He simply shouldn't be taking criticism directed at the game on a personal level.

[roadman]

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Yes. And Ian has to find a way to separate his personal life from his work life. He simply shouldn't be taking criticism directed at the game on a personal level.

Easier said then done, especially when you have people saying that 09 isn't anything different than 10, which is the furthest from the truth. I always wonder when people say that how long did they have the game? Week, month at the most? How can a person rent a game for a week and determine that the next game with one 2 minute edited non-enabled pro-tak game play video isn't better than the last game.

Boggles my mind.

Put yourself in Ian's shoes. If people started telling you your product is the same product as last years, and you know those people haven't put that product to use because it's 2.5 months away from being released, it has to take it's toll at some time.

I don't think a breather away is a bad thing at all.

Let the judge and jury decide after August 14th.