[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by The Autumn Wind

I have to say that I disagree on the characterization of both games here. I literally just made the pass you say can't be made in APF with Cunningham to Eric Martin for a score about an hour ago, against a very good player.

Were you playing another player, or the computer? Against a good player, no, if they hit Y/LB and jump up, odds are the ball will be knocked down. Many players hit RB though and it goes for an INT, which will be missed most of the time. So be sure you understand and are using proper context, which I don't believe you are with regards to APF2K8.

Quote: Originally Posted by The Autumn Wind

You've been asking this same question in the APF forums regarding bump man, and honestly, I think it's a flawed question. You seem to want a "read" in man that doesn't really exist. If you throw when you see your guy open by 3 steps, in the NFL that's actually a late throw, and as long as it's not cover zero you might get burned for making that late pass. In man coverage it's often about anticipation, trying to discern if your guy has the proper shoulder for the route, and hoping your QB makes a good throw and the DB doesn't make a good break on the ball. There's no magic bullet. Sometimes your guy makes a good throw and the receiver makes a good play. Sometimes the DB makes a great play on the ball. There's no way to know that one or the other of those isn't going to happen.

I disagree completely. Even in Madden '09 I can read when a guy is open in man coverage, easily on slants / straight routes across the field (horizontals) based on the fact that they have a step on the coverage, and the coverage is above them, not below them. Based on this analysis, if I see a DB below a WR, I would not throw a hard pass in to the WR as the video seemed to show. I might put some touch on it and lead the WR, but the pass does not look like a lead / touch pass in the slightest.