Madden NFL 10 Video: Halftime Report (Chase @ E3)

[DickDalewood]

I realize that but some were also complaning about the highlights themselves... Hence my post

[Cj7298419]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Video: Halftime Report (Chase @ E3)

First time I saw halftime vid and I almost spit out my water laughing at how pathetic that was. Oh well, I'll be skipping that lame attempt at a halftime show.

C'mon EA, if you're gonna tweak your presentation you gotta do it the right way. Not half-*** it.

[grlacher]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Video: Halftime Report (Chase @ E3)

+1

[NovaStar]

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I missed all the brew-ha-ha yesterday.

Anyway, here's my take.

Would everyone agree this is the best one year leap in the Madden series on NG? I'm just talking about Madden on NG, alone.

The gameplay looks good, online franchise is in, colored cleats are in, Ray Lewis intro is in, etc....... It looks a lot better than 09, much better.

NBA 2k9 had the lamest halftime I've ever seen besides the NG Maddens. They went to a Sports Central area without anyone present on camera and a voice-over going over the stats.

This is NBA 2k9 we are talking about, the kings, supposedly of presentation. And yet, no one rips their attempt of a half-time show.

Irony.

I think to compare basketball to football, especially in regards to highlights and the strategies that are shown in highlights, is a big stretch. You compare football to football and basketball to basketball, reason being, there is much more to see on a football drive than it is to see on a dash up a basketball court. That being said, I find it laughable that leading up to this flood of information, how everyone had pretty much accepted that madden10 would finally put 2k5 to rest, blah blah blah. Well let's accept certain realities, first 2k5 was $19.99 out of the gate, secondly, it was on the original xbox, third, ea is the only company that can produce an nfl game, and lastly, 2k5 was made 5 years ago. For this game to still be as relevant as it is, is a blatant indictment on what ea has done (or has not done) for the past 5yrs on next gen.

Ian and his crew should be commended on alot of the changes that they have implemented thus far, I give you that. Also, I understand that they are catching a lot of the back lash that their predecessors are responsible for. But c'mon, they had to know that when they proclaimed that 2k5 would be put to rest and that presentation would be their main focus, to have a halftime show this deficient would be unacceptable. And for some people (not you Roadman) to attempt to lower 2k5's presentation level ("oh, well chris berman wasn't synched good, there were hiccups" etc...) because madden10's halftime/postgame is utter garbage, is laughable.

They (ea) should be applauded for the good and certainly held accountable for the bad. That halftime/postgame show, as presented is bad.

[jmood88]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Video: Halftime Report (Chase @ E3)

Just something to note (from ChaseB's writeup):

(On another note, I see a lot of people complaining about the highlights within the halftime show. While I understand some of the complaints, I want to be clear that the reason the highlights are bad is because I Super Simmed to get to the halftime show quickly. When you Super Sim, the game does not create manufactured highlights from the simmed plays. In other words, the game only had a handful of plays from the half to choose from, so you saw things like a 4-yard run and so on.)

That doesn't change how bad the presentation of the half time show was.

[BezO]

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Sorry for the lack of detail, but...

That sucked! And so did the pre-game show. Neither looked like any pre/post game show I've seen.

They could've left that out and continued working on the basics, like the pocket, the running animations, footwork, playbooks, ect.

10 is looking way better than 09 but not close to what I expected after leaving EA's studio. I expect those of us that visited EA to have much more of an impact. I'm not seeing it.

[jmood88]

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I look at this and I see a foundation for better things to come.

No the halftime report may not be as extravagant as we may want, but its a place to start. Look at where we were and compare it to where we are now after one year, and then allow yourself to think of what could be in the future.

It'll probably be exactly the same. They have a separate team doing presentation, don't they? There's no reason why that team can't do a better job. They keep promising this enhanced presentation every year and every year they make excuses for why they don't live up to what they hyped up.

[Triathlete_201]

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This is NBA 2k9 we are talking about, the kings, supposedly of presentation. And yet, no one rips their attempt of a half-time show.

Irony.

This is football we're talking about, not basketball. I think one of the main reasons people are being a little harsh is because the fans have been asking for huge presentation upgrades for years. Also, EA/Tiburon were saying that the presentation in Madden 10 would be EPIC and that they would finally top 2k5's presentation. So people were expecting to be blown away by the half time show.

I would hardly call their presentation epic nor topping 2k5's from what I've seen so far. It just lacks fluidity, good content, and excitement (In the half time show and extra point).

[jmood88]

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NBA 2k9 had the lamest halftime I've ever seen besides the NG Maddens. They went to a Sports Central area without anyone present on camera and a voice-over going over the stats.

This is NBA 2k9 we are talking about, the kings, supposedly of presentation. And yet, no one rips their attempt of a half-time show.

Irony.

People actually did talk bad about that but they also had alot of other things in their presentation that keeps the game from being boring. The end of the game stuff alone is better than anything that Madden or NBA Live has done.

[SageInfinite]

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People actually did talk bad about that but they also had alot of other things in their presentation that keeps the game from being boring. The end of the game stuff alone is better than anything that Madden or NBA Live has done.

Exactly. You get passes on certain things when you do alot right. Madden and NBA Live have always half assed everything when it comes to presentation. I'll wait to judge the final product, but from the looks of things they are continuing the trend. Again it's better of course, but still seems half assed.

[BezO]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Video: Halftime Report (Chase @ E3)

NBA 2k9 had the lamest halftime I've ever seen besides the NG Maddens. They went to a Sports Central area without anyone present on camera and a voice-over going over the stats.

This is NBA 2k9 we are talking about, the kings, supposedly of presentation. And yet, no one rips their attempt of a half-time show.

Irony.

There's no irony. There's context. Fans of NBA 2K are much happier with the game overall. That effects how they respond to disappointing aspects of the game.

And like Triathelete_201 said, this is one of EA's big announcements they've been holding back for E3. Obviously folks expected more.

[MJenness]

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I think to compare basketball to football, especially in regards to highlights and the strategies that are shown in highlights, is a big stretch. You compare football to football and basketball to basketball, reason being, there is much more to see on a football drive than it is to see on a dash up a basketball court. That being said, I find it laughable that leading up to this flood of information, how everyone had pretty much accepted that madden10 would finally put 2k5 to rest, blah blah blah. Well let's accept certain realities, first 2k5 was $19.99 out of the gate, secondly, it was on the original xbox, third, ea is the only company that can produce an nfl game, and lastly, 2k5 was made 5 years ago. For this game to still be as relevant as it is, is a blatant indictment on what ea has done (or has not done) for the past 5yrs on next gen.

Ian and his crew should be commended on alot of the changes that they have implemented thus far, I give you that. Also, I understand that they are catching a lot of the back lash that their predecessors are responsible for. But c'mon, they had to know that when they proclaimed that 2k5 would be put to rest and that presentation would be their main focus, to have a halftime show this deficient would be unacceptable. And for some people (not you Roadman) to attempt to lower 2k5's presentation level ("oh, well chris berman wasn't synched good, there were hiccups" etc...) because madden10's halftime/postgame is utter garbage, is laughable.

They (ea) should be applauded for the good and certainly held accountable for the bad. That halftime/postgame show, as presented is bad.

Agreed! Also, if Ian himself hadn't come on here touting how we'd be "blown away" by presentation this year, perhaps the bar wouldn't have been set so high in our minds.

But his claims that they were out to make us forget 2k5, then show us a steaming pile such as this is a joke, really! I mean seriously, did he actually LOOK at Maddens halftime and post-game shows and say "Yeah, we nailed it?", If so, then we're in deep trouble with the future of this game, because it'll never be near what we are hoping for.

That was SERIOUSLY the worst interpretation of a halftime show I have ever seen on NG! I KNOW this is their first attempt, but come on, they're not blind, are they?

[SageInfinite]

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There's no irony. There's context. Fans of NBA 2K are much happier with the game overall. That effects how they respond to disappointing aspects of the game.

And like Triathelete_201 said, this is one of EA's big announcements they've been holding back for E3. Obviously folks expected more.

[HealyMonster]

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Exactly. You get passes on certain things when you do alot right. Madden and NBA Live have always half assed everything when it comes to presentation. I'll wait to judge the final product, but from the looks of things they are continuing the trend. Again it's better of course, but still seems half assed.

Sage, thats exactly my main point when considering madden bro. you get it. Great or even good games dont have random areas half assed, such as the halftime show or the ray lewis dance, or take your pick of anything from a previous madden. Great games are complete games. Whoever the guy is at EA Sports that is making the calls needs to go. I think it is evident that Ian wants the game to be a certain way. Just listening to the guy talk, he is like us. I have a hard time believing that its even close to his fault for things being half way done. Some George Steinbrenner type is up there making these calls and making these guys throw stuff together. Something is wrong up there man. seriously. I would say there has been a leadership problem at EA for years.

[roadman]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Video: Halftime Report (Chase @ E3)

I think to compare basketball to football, especially in regards to highlights and the strategies that are shown in highlights, is a big stretch. You compare football to football and basketball to basketball, reason being, there is much more to see on a football drive than it is to see on a dash up a basketball court. That being said, I find it laughable that leading up to this flood of information, how everyone had pretty much accepted that madden10 would finally put 2k5 to rest, blah blah blah. Well let's accept certain realities, first 2k5 was $19.99 out of the gate, secondly, it was on the original xbox, third, ea is the only company that can produce an nfl game, and lastly, 2k5 was made 5 years ago. For this game to still be as relevant as it is, is a blatant indictment on what ea has done (or has not done) for the past 5yrs on next gen.

Ian and his crew should be commended on alot of the changes that they have implemented thus far, I give you that. Also, I understand that they are catching a lot of the back lash that their predecessors are responsible for. But c'mon, they had to know that when they proclaimed that 2k5 would be put to rest and that presentation would be their main focus, to have a halftime show this deficient would be unacceptable. And for some people (not you Roadman) to attempt to lower 2k5's presentation level ("oh, well chris berman wasn't synched good, there were hiccups" etc...) because madden10's halftime/postgame is utter garbage, is laughable.

They (ea) should be applauded for the good and certainly held accountable for the bad. That halftime/postgame show, as presented is bad.

I agree a lot with this post except for a few things. You mentioned it's unfair to compare basketball presentation to football presentation.

So, why do people bring up MLB The Show in these very same forums when discussing about blowing presentation out of the water? Is that fair as well?

I know Ian actually stated previously that presentation was getting some love this year. Did he actually say that he wanted to blow 2k5 presentation out of the water for this Madden?

I do remember him saying the first part, but I don't remember Ian specifically saying that he wanted to put the 2k series to rest for this Madden.

I could be wrong, if I am, I'll admit it.