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  • DickDalewood

    #106
    Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

    I have a question:

    What do they mean by "generic"?

    Es: will a team in real life that has a really good running back, have a bad running back and instead a good receiver in NCAA? Will the player ratings, etc just be completely random?

    Or will the star positions still at least be represented accurately in the game?

    Just trying to get some clarification.

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    • rudyjuly2
      Cade Cunningham
      • Aug 2002
      • 14816

      #107
      Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

      Originally posted by dickdalewood
      What do they mean by "generic"?

      Es: will a team in real life that has a really good running back, have a bad running back and instead a good receiver in NCAA? Will the player ratings, etc just be completely random?
      By generic, each team would be completely random. However, that is pure speculation based on the impact of the Keller lawsuit.

      I know I read that EA felt that the unnamed rosters really hurts their sales. The roster vault was supposed to make it easier for gamers to get real rosters. I'm sure they would love to be able to cut a deal and put the real names in there. Going generic won't happen unless the Keller lawsuit wins imo.

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      • DickDalewood

        #108
        Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

        Originally posted by rudyjuly2
        By generic, each team would be completely random. However, that is pure speculation based on the impact of the Keller lawsuit.

        I know I read that EA felt that the unnamed rosters really hurts their sales. The roster vault was supposed to make it easier for gamers to get real rosters. I'm sure they would love to be able to cut a deal and put the real names in there. Going generic won't happen unless the Keller lawsuit wins imo.
        OK so if the teams are COMPLETELY random, how would they even rank them? Just give the better teams (like Florida for example) better players?

        That's going to be kinda lame for people who want a Tebow-esque quarterback and get some random pocket passer for the Gators.

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        • rudyjuly2
          Cade Cunningham
          • Aug 2002
          • 14816

          #109
          Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

          Originally posted by dickdalewood
          OK so if the teams are COMPLETELY random, how would they even rank them? Just give the better teams (like Florida for example) better players?

          That's going to be kinda lame for people who want a Tebow-esque quarterback and get some random pocket passer for the Gators.
          I'm not really sure. It's all speculation that I hope is completely false! I don't think anyone wants random teams. I'd hope if they ever went that route they would release a web based roster editor for people to fix rosters online and share them easily (and release it weeks before the game comes out).

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          • Security Device
            Rookie
            • Jul 2008
            • 161

            #110
            Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

            I don't understand why this "generic" roster thing is an issue. It's complete SPECULATION. No one from EA has said anything about moving to generic rosters. And no one says generic = random.

            I think the rosters are already generic. They just happen to resemble the real players for te most part by coincidence. :wink:

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            • MtneerManiac
              Banned
              • Jul 2006
              • 285

              #111
              Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

              Originally posted by Security Device
              Is it just me or do most of the statements here affirm that most people don't understand how a video game is made? Do you really think that EA or any company works on the game 24/7 until it's release date? Does anyone factor in deadlines? I'm just guessing, but maybe the whole Roster "issue" stems from the fact that Rosters may have had to be done a few weeks to a month ago. I mean, there's 120 schools, then anywhere from 50-70 players all with different equipment. Also, has it been confirmed that there is a "team" working on this and not just 1 guy? I may be wrong, but I'm sure it's a little more complicated than plugging in attributes and facemask types. Since games are all code, I think tying in Speed = 89 is not that simple. Also, didn't someone mention in a different thread that the ratings were tweaked to make more important ratings mean more? If so, can we really bash the Roster ratings until we play it and see how it feels?

              I just think there is too many people "jumping off the ship" due to a few people's speculation and more people blindly believing it to be an absolute truth.
              Compare past version's rosters to this years.

              Inexcusable. There are schools like Alabama, Florida, Florida State with perfect rosters, while other teams get shat on. It's inexcusable.

              And let's not forget the fact that we let them off the hook with that horrific, unprofessional homerismthey showed in Florida State last year. Hell, they even did it this year to an extent.

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              • Security Device
                Rookie
                • Jul 2008
                • 161

                #112
                Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

                Originally posted by MtneerManiac
                And let's not forget the fact that we let them off the hook with that horrific, unprofessional homerism they showed in Florida State last year. Hell, they even did it this year to an extent.
                I completely agree with the homerism. It's not hard to pick out who the devs favorite teams are.

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                • DoubleDeuce
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 590

                  #113
                  Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

                  I know about the NCAA rule, but it doesn't make sense. Why can ESPN plaster Tebow's face all over everything and promote their games by saying "WATCH TIM TEBOW PLAY ON ESPN SATURDAY NIGHT AND YOUR LIFE WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE 58% BETTER" but EA can't put Tim Tebow in a video game?

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                  • Hey_Rebby
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 348

                    #114
                    Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

                    That's my biggest issue with having to rely on the community to provide the rosters. Is there anyone out there who is truly committed to provided 100% rosters for all teams? I am a fan of Mountain West teams and it seems like little attention was paid to those teams in the past.

                    Also, there is always going to be a little bit of favoritism in the rosters. They're always be guys that will have favorite teams and say "oh they didn't make the RB fast enough or there defensive line all should be ranked higher."

                    I used to think, back on the PS1 days, that EA did a pretty good job with rosters. They have fallen hard.

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                    • jeremym480
                      Speak it into existence
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 18198

                      #115
                      Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

                      Originally posted by blackscorpion11
                      LOL Cmon Born! Rock up soldier! This is non issue now that we have team builder.. I could care less about "real" roster names, they'll be gone in 2 Dynasty seasons anyway..
                      WRONG!!! Two seasons?? Most people usually get 3-4 good season's with downloaded rosters. I usually get more than that. Because once I recruit my freshman for year two I see who all did not make it into the game and add them. In year three, I go to Rivals.com and look at our future commitments and add them. Therefore, I can usually get 5 decent years of real players (for my team at least)

                      Plus, I import my draft classes to Madden because I want to play with what?? you guessed it.... actual real life players!!!
                      To take the ability to download draft class would completely destroy the NCAA franchise for me and would take something away from Madden, as well, IMO.

                      So, while most people may not be as hardcore as me, I truly believe that your in the minority on this one.
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                      • Tito78
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 620

                        #116
                        Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

                        Pasta Padre really needs to do something about his web site. My internet crashes every time I go to it.

                        I done with it.

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                        • jyoung
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 11132

                          #117
                          Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

                          For all the guys saying that this is going to ruin online, does this game have the same feature as College Hoops 2K8 where it keeps the player names on your roster file loaded even when you enter an online game?

                          That was just one of the many awesome details that helped make College Hoops such a great experience.

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                          • Hey_Rebby
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 348

                            #118
                            Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

                            Originally posted by Tito78
                            Pasta Padre really needs to do something about his web site. My internet crashes every time I go to it.

                            I done with it.
                            Me too!

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                            • sinc79
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 67

                              #119
                              tonight i'm going to make the university of nothing. our uniforms will be all white with white stripes and white numbers. everyplayer will have the same name and the same rating. our logo will be a white square placed in the center of a white helmet. feel free to download them, i'm actually going to make an entire conference, each team with its own solid color, representing the future of this game.

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                              • KANE699
                                EA Sports' Equipment Guru
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 3447

                                #120
                                Re: NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path (Pasta Padre)

                                Yes im in on this generic teams for all!!!!!!!!!
                                Please take note that most of what I say and post is made in satire.

                                Follow me on twitter @Equipment_Guru

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