NCAA Football 10 Rosters Issue

[o Mass Murda o]

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The truth of the matter is most of these clowns complaining are still gonna purchase this insult of a finished product and spend there precious time editing rosters and fixing things that EA should have fixed. That's a shame. What a weak bunch most gamers are.

not me....i was turned off when they went the gimmick route rather than the gameplay route months ago, while madden was SIM'ing up their game. every blog became worse and rediculous, and clear that they weren't interested in our wants. i come back hoping for redemption over here, but it only gets worse everytime i read a ncaa blog or EA post. as an OD commish whos still running one since sep 08, and involved in others, im being strong this yr and not buying the inferior product.

messed up rosters...WOW. im sure this will be the icing on the cake for many ppl's decision to say no to buying ncaa 10. if this was my company, forget some half-arsed fix. until its on the store shelves, my customers would get the correct files and coding on the disc. even if it did hit shelves, yank em and get the right disc out there. i dont care if u have to have ppl return and exchange them at the stores to get the right one. what would these companies do if it was 2000 and not 2010 when patching console games and hot fixes werent possible...

[Herky]

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The more and more I think about this the less I think anything will be done to fix the roster problem. It just seems like too much has to be done and not enough time is there to do it. Somebody or someone really screwed up and I'm willing to bet jobs are going to be lost. It's 2009 and stuff like this just should not happen.

They should scrap Teambuilder but they probably can't since not everyone is tuned into this info about bad rosters. If they pull that feature, it's going to open a whole new can of worms when people pop the game and it's not there. Not everyone reads message boards and are informed on this.

Face it people. We are going to be stuck with bad rosters. The clock is ticking and if they fix it then major props to them, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

[jp2]

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Speaking from the perspective of someone who has been around awhile, and has worked for several Fortune 500 companies - goof ups like this, and FAR worse, happen all the time. They typically are addressed, and usually resolved, in some manner.

I'm more intrigued as to whether they will revisit the idea of being more involved with the NCAA gaming community though, at least in terms of message boards. Posters on this site and NCAAStrategies make up a tiny fraction of the folks who buy this game. I suppose I see a benefit for them during the early build process to get feedback, but after that, I'm not sure what they get from all this. Not only do they have bosses to answer to you, but they're getting an unrelenting beating from what seems to be a community of posters with the patience and tolerance of five year olds.

You think they haven't had last minute bugs in the past? EA has given the community more access and visibility into how these games are made....be careful what you wish for

[JoshCA916]

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ok i guess i am a little confused as to what the real problem is, if the game hasn't gone gold they haven't started to mass produce the game as of yet so they won't be losing money on making all new discs. they are saying the game shipped with the wrong rosters but EA hasn't said the game has gone gold so i don't get that one. now as for issue if they update the roster file for the disk and bringing a TB team on the game would mess it up i am lost also because isn't downloading a TB team just like downloading somebody's roster from the EA locker and you making changes to it? i mean i know last year i had maybe 4 different rosters on my ps3 and you could change rosters when you saw fit. so can somebody please explain to me why this isn't an easy fix?

[Herky]

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Speaking from the perspective of someone who has been around awhile, and has worked for several Fortune 500 companies - goof ups like this, and FAR worse, happen all the time. They typically are addressed, and usually resolved, in some manner.

I'm more intrigued as to whether they will revisit the idea of being more involved with the NCAA gaming community though, at least in terms of message boards. Posters on this site and NCAAStrategies make up a tiny fraction of the folks who buy this game. I suppose I see a benefit for them during the early build process to get feedback, but after that, I'm not sure what they get from all this. Not only do they have bosses to answer to you, but they're getting an unrelenting beating from what seems to be a community of posters with the patience and tolerance of five year olds.

You think they haven't had last minute bugs in the past? EA has given the community more access and visibility into how these games are made....be careful what you wish for

I think the answer is simple. Hardcore gamers are being left out in the cold more and more these days. NCAA will still sell even if it's done half-assed and that's what counts for companies. Sales might dip, but I doubt the people on here mad about issues will hurt them much. Look at how bad Madden 08 was on next gen. It still sold.

Money makes the world go round and hardcore gamers (sadly) is not the main source of income for these companies. I like the developers being here, but they still have an agenda when they make games.

[Ziza9Noles94]

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If blame is going to be placed on anyone, it's not the roster guy's fault. I'm sure there's a central place where all the files are stored and whoever's job it is to grab the current files to send to print is the one that messed up.

Seriously, do you think that the roster maker would spend all that time making sure the rosters are as accurate as can be and then send the wrong file?

Probably an intern or someone's assistant.

[Ziza9Noles94]

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I'm just going to say thanks EA dev team for trying to find a solution to the roster issue and I wish you well on correcting the problem.

I for one am not panicking because I deal with issues in my life often. For example, my light bill might be due on the 13th and I don't get paid until the 15th, but my kid had a medical emergency that exhausted my light bill money on the 4th and its now the 7th. I have time between the 7th and the 13th to FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION.

I could give many more examples but my point is this. The game did not RELEASE with the wrong roster, teambuilder did, and I didn't and am not using that feature. The EA team is aware of the problem and has time to find and implement a solution. So there is no need for me to get on this thread and complain. But if the game releases with F'ed up rosters.....I'll be opening up that can of whip a$$.

So my comments are on ice until July 14th.

+1.

[nstod]

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Speaking from the perspective of someone who has been around awhile, and has worked for several Fortune 500 companies - goof ups like this, and FAR worse, happen all the time. They typically are addressed, and usually resolved, in some manner.

I'm more intrigued as to whether they will revisit the idea of being more involved with the NCAA gaming community though, at least in terms of message boards. Posters on this site and NCAAStrategies make up a tiny fraction of the folks who buy this game. I suppose I see a benefit for them during the early build process to get feedback, but after that, I'm not sure what they get from all this. Not only do they have bosses to answer to you, but they're getting an unrelenting beating from what seems to be a community of posters with the patience and tolerance of five year olds.

You think they haven't had last minute bugs in the past? EA has given the community more access and visibility into how these games are made....be careful what you wish for

It's amazing how the few of us who actually know how things like this work have a completely different response to the problem than the 15-17 year olds on the board.

If an SCM manager got fired for every screw up like this, the world would be void of SCM managers. And stuff like this happens on things much, MUCH more serious than a silly video game.

[RynoAid]

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And stuff like this happens on things much, MUCH more serious than a silly video game.

yup.. like in the Airbus A330 autopilot software source code...

[Boulton26]

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I was very excited about Team Builder, and other various tweaks in the game.

But, simply put, if the game ships with bad rosters and the solution EA comes up with isn't acceptable, I won't be purchasing NCAA 10.

Current economic times are forcing people to make drastic changes to disposable income in their budgets. If NCAA 10 ships with a glaring issue, regardless of who did what and how it happened, INFORMED consumers will make appropriate decisions. The sad part is, which has been touched on before in the thread, is that many potential buyers won't know about the roster problem should an acceptable solution not be applied.

[kdeal4]

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I have 4 teams I have created on TeamBuilder that I love! However, I would much rather have great rosters when the game releases than to have my teams on TeamBuilder stay up. I can always recreate the team.

I think if EA would let the community know that they will be shutting down the teambuilder site and give up a week or less to write down all the uniform combinations, I believe that would be a good solution so we have a good roster set at release. I still have all my logos that I will be using for teambuilder, so I'm not worried.

The only bad thing will be if a bunch of people have edited rosters on teambuilder. I have done this on one of my teams, but once again, I'd much rather have a nice set of rosters than to have my one team of rosters not deleted.

I am not panicking. I know this will be fixed and I'm extremely greatful for the community for finding the problem with the rosters.

I want to give thanks to the Community for finding the issue and I also want to give EA thanks for listening to the community and (attempting to) resolving the issue.

[coogrfan]

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Here's something interesting: Adam edited his initial post in this thread (#29) a couple hours ago to remove his statement about the wrong rosters possibly having been loaded.

I wonder why?

[lesco543]

what ever happened to color shoes?

[ebarws6]

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what ever happened to color shoes?

We got windsocks even better

You know for those saying that EA like can't do roster updates because of the whole "not real" issue, well they update the rosters before every year, so i just don't see why they can't just do a roster patch to fix these screwed up rosters. Though, if that's the only thing EA does, it will suck for those who don't have internet.

[KleShreen]

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Here's what I find most mind-boggling:

EA obviously has money. They have proven that, mostly in the companies they buy up.

They hired a "new roster guy." What exactly is he paid to do? I GUARANTEE that if you give me TWO WEEKS, I would have the most accurate roster set possible on the entire game, and if you paid me to sit in the EA studios for 8 hours a day after that, it would stay the most accurate as I would sit there going through every team message board finding out who has left/is coming, etc.

So I just want to find out...what are the roster people at EA actually paid to do? They made it sound like, for years now, that they have a guy (or group?) of people who are paid only to work on rosters/ratings. I'm assuming that is their only task.

I realize that a "Screw-up" may have happened and that there very well may be a great set of rosters hidden somewhere on the hard drive of an EA-owned computer, but I just highly doubt it, and it makes me question what exactly EA is trying to relay to the community when they BRAG about things like "We've got a new hotshot roster guy for next year" and then anything like this happens. Where is the QC? I'm just tired of giving EA free passes, I guess is the moral of the story. They have the money. They have the resources. They have the time. They just choose on their own to not make the most of it and I think that that is painfully clear now.

I'm not going to take the easy out and say thanks to EA for trying to find a resolution, because a.) it shouldn't have been an issue in the first place, and b.) they're not looking for a resolution. The EA Devs won't be found until after the game drops, they'll make some piddly post about "releasing an update soon," and then we won't see them until next March when they start pimping up something else that won't work.