The pocket forms way too wide in the videos. It should be a lot tighter.
The entire problem with the pocket deals with what happens as the ball is snapped. The motion of the line coming off the ball is way too orchestrated. It's like everybody on the entire line is on a string. When the string is pulled, everybody on that side of the line moves at once, so the guards move at the same time the center does, when in reality there should be a little bit of a delay.
Furthermore, the defensive linemen are not anticipating the snap. In the NFL, defensive linemen are so athletic that a skilled pass rusher can have the tackle beat around the corner before the tackle is out of his stance. Also, the d-line's first move is straight up. They pause upright for a split second, reacting to line movement. The d-line should be trying to dictate what the o-line does, not vice versa. If d-linemen play like that in the NFL, they'd get manhandled due to a lack of leverage and momentum.
Look at how low Kampman comes out of his stance.
Gaining leverage, running the arc, and collapsing the pocket. This doesn't just happen on sacks.
The 4-3 defensive ends should be a lot quicker off the ball on passing downs and should immediately move upfield, bringing the tackles with them (any running lanes should open up underneath). Once they've gained the outside, they should collapse the pocket inside (running the arc) The 1 technique tackle should be blowing up the A-Gap (unless he's stunting), and the good ones should demand help from the guard (who should post him without sacrificing too much position. A center by himself is not going to block the Albert Haynesworths of the league. They just wouldn't be in position quick enough and with enough leverage). The 3 technique should be taking advantage of the seperation created by the end (opening up a lane between the guards and the tackles). Or he should eat up space to take pressure off the end. In the 4-3, at least one defensive linemen should be able to reach out and touch the QB even if it's right after the ball is thrown. The pressure is almost always there, even if it's not in your face.
This is right after the ball is snapped. Look at where the rightend is. This isn't the best example, since it lookes like the end and the tackle are engaging in an X-Stunt, which never fully developed since Warner hit dumped the ball to the running back.
But even though he missed the tackle, you can see #79, who started in the 3 technique, assumed the outside positioning.
The 3-4 would operate similarly, but the defensive linemen would be operating sort of like lead blockers for the linebackers, who would play a greater role in pass rushing. On most blitzes in most 3-4 defenses, the down linement would be engaging offensive linemen, opening up lanes for the linebackers to rush. But even then, there should be a stronger push upfield than what we are seeing in the videos.
Here's the Madden Pocket
This is the Titans, KVB is an elite defensive end. Tony Brown is an above average starter. Kearse is being driven downfield? No one is getting much pressure.
It looks like the pass rushing lane to the left is developing as it should, but there's no real pressure coming from the line.
The entire problem with the pocket deals with what happens as the ball is snapped. The motion of the line coming off the ball is way too orchestrated. It's like everybody on the entire line is on a string. When the string is pulled, everybody on that side of the line moves at once, so the guards move at the same time the center does, when in reality there should be a little bit of a delay.
Furthermore, the defensive linemen are not anticipating the snap. In the NFL, defensive linemen are so athletic that a skilled pass rusher can have the tackle beat around the corner before the tackle is out of his stance. Also, the d-line's first move is straight up. They pause upright for a split second, reacting to line movement. The d-line should be trying to dictate what the o-line does, not vice versa. If d-linemen play like that in the NFL, they'd get manhandled due to a lack of leverage and momentum.
Look at how low Kampman comes out of his stance.
Gaining leverage, running the arc, and collapsing the pocket. This doesn't just happen on sacks.
The 4-3 defensive ends should be a lot quicker off the ball on passing downs and should immediately move upfield, bringing the tackles with them (any running lanes should open up underneath). Once they've gained the outside, they should collapse the pocket inside (running the arc) The 1 technique tackle should be blowing up the A-Gap (unless he's stunting), and the good ones should demand help from the guard (who should post him without sacrificing too much position. A center by himself is not going to block the Albert Haynesworths of the league. They just wouldn't be in position quick enough and with enough leverage). The 3 technique should be taking advantage of the seperation created by the end (opening up a lane between the guards and the tackles). Or he should eat up space to take pressure off the end. In the 4-3, at least one defensive linemen should be able to reach out and touch the QB even if it's right after the ball is thrown. The pressure is almost always there, even if it's not in your face.
This is right after the ball is snapped. Look at where the rightend is. This isn't the best example, since it lookes like the end and the tackle are engaging in an X-Stunt, which never fully developed since Warner hit dumped the ball to the running back.
But even though he missed the tackle, you can see #79, who started in the 3 technique, assumed the outside positioning.
The 3-4 would operate similarly, but the defensive linemen would be operating sort of like lead blockers for the linebackers, who would play a greater role in pass rushing. On most blitzes in most 3-4 defenses, the down linement would be engaging offensive linemen, opening up lanes for the linebackers to rush. But even then, there should be a stronger push upfield than what we are seeing in the videos.
Here's the Madden Pocket
This is the Titans, KVB is an elite defensive end. Tony Brown is an above average starter. Kearse is being driven downfield? No one is getting much pressure.
It looks like the pass rushing lane to the left is developing as it should, but there's no real pressure coming from the line.
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