Apexisfree Latest Madden 10 Comparisons

[dat swag]

As a Madden faithful for over 20 years I'm listening to the information and watching the video proof as I scratch my head.

As Apex would say: "Lets go to the Footage"

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If you get a chance also take a look at the agility series of Apexisfree's videos...Its very insightful stuff...Here is Pt. 2

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[Pared]

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This guy is one of those individuals that just love to dwell on the negatives. And this mindset permeates to other people, which makes it even worse.

Can you imagine if this guy was doing this back when Mario came out:

"The guy is a PLUMBER... and jumping in and out of pipes. WHO DOES THAT? That ain't real."

It's sad, IMO. And I have just as many issues with Madden and other games as the next guy.

[ProjectSRT]

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This guy is one of those individuals that just love to dwell on the negatives. And this mindset permeates to other people, which makes it even worse.

Can you imagine if this guy was doing this back when Mario came out:

"The guy is a PLUMBER... and jumping in and out of pipes. WHO DOES THAT? That ain't real."

It's sad, IMO. And I have just as many issues with Madden and other games as the next guy.

But Mario isnt trying to reflect a real scenario, Madden IS.

[Dmacho]

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The strides are too long; that's what is killing the running animations. It makes the players seem as if they aren't running very hard.

[bowdown2shadi]

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Did he say they should start from scratch and scrap everything??? How many times are we going to go down this road... Its been explained already tons of times.

[Montana16]

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Fix.

[DeLuX]

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Good videos.

[PGaither84]

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But Mario isnt trying to reflect a real scenario, Madden IS.

This.

How hard is that to understand Blitz is where you go for arcade. Madden is where people go for arcade and it shouldn't be. Just playing aginst Blazin4qb [where is that guy nowa days anyway?] and how he didn't know what sim was until I told him/showed him. I could write a huge post on our conversation a few months ago about what is and isn't sim. namely though, understanding that it isn't just the bugs that bother people. when you have a tag line of "it's in the game." and it isn't and it poorly represents the game you are making, people have every right to call you out for it.

Ian and Phill and Peter adn the whole crew have worked hard to turn this ship around, but it hasn't landed yet, it' just on course finally.

[MattIntellect]

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This.

How hard is that to understand Blitz is where you go for arcade. Madden is where people go for arcade and it shouldn't be. Just playing aginst Blazin4qb [where is that guy nowa days anyway?] and how he didn't know what sim was until I told him/showed him. I could write a huge post on our conversation a few months ago about what is and isn't sim. namely though, understanding that it isn't just the bugs that bother people. when you have a tag line of "it's in the game." and it isn't and it poorly represents the game you are making, people have every right to call you out for it.

Ian and Phill and Peter adn the whole crew have worked hard to turn this ship around, but it hasn't landed yet, it' just on course finally.

Let me ask this: Is the running animations the ONLY thing wrong with this game? Does this make the game terrible?

I'm sure all of us here can agree that the running animations need to be improved, but Apex is not giving credit where credit is due. Madden is looking like a year-round game for me by looking at all of the OTHER IMPROVEMENTS to the game.

[Pared]

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But Mario isnt trying to reflect a real scenario, Madden IS.

I realize that, thank you. I thought it was pretty obvious my post was in jest.

The problem is, gamer's expectation have grown exponentially, while the resources and capabilities to create (or re-create) reality are not there.

You can use other games as examples, and there will always be flaws in them.

I think the Madden series has made some solid strides this year. Is it where it should be? No, not in my opinion. But you can easily say the same about some expectations of the gamers who play the game as well.

[bang911]

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Did he say they should start from scratch and scrap everything??? How many times are we going to go down this road... Its been explained already tons of times.

Apex is correct. Certain things need to be totally redone if there is going to be the changes he is asking for.

[mrprice33]

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Made it about 4 and a half minutes before I had to stop watching. How can he say "pro tackle is okay but...". YOU HAVENT PLAYED THE GAME YET!! People have too much time on their hands, analyzing a madden video of an alpha build like the zapruder film. It's sick. Really, it's an illnes.

[MattIntellect]

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exactly...as of right now they keep trying to modify bad animations and improve them. They simply need to just try again.***nning is definately not a small issue.

So are you agreeing with Apex that absolutely EVERYTHING should be scrapped except the joystick configuration? Of course the running animations can't just be improved upon what they already have, right?

You never say scrap EVERYTHING! I thought we already learned our lesson after the Madden next-gen transition, but I guess not. Either way, Apex didn't mention any of the many positives of Madden 10.

[kcxiv]

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This guy is one of those individuals that just love to dwell on the negatives. And this mindset permeates to other people, which makes it even worse.

Can you imagine if this guy was doing this back when Mario came out:

"The guy is a PLUMBER... and jumping in and out of pipes. WHO DOES THAT? That ain't real."

It's sad, IMO. And I have just as many issues with Madden and other games as the next guy.

what he does, needs to be done. He likes to see stuff that makes us 2k guys cringe when we are stuck with Madden. He wnats to show people what is wrong with the game so they can fix it and give us a better overall experience.

I am glad he points out the good and bad in games. Its 2009, we shouldnt have only 1 choice of nfl game and that game be crap and not to the standared of a game that was released 3 years ago. You have your developer for this game say he wants to not be compared to NFL2K5.

This stuff is great for the players. I dont think some people realize this.

[MattIntellect]

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what he does, needs to be done. He likes to see stuff that makes us 2k guys cringe when we are stuck with Madden. He wnats to show people what is wrong with the game so they can fix it and give us a better overall experience.

I am glad he points out the good and bad in games. Its 2009, we shouldnt have only 1 choice of nfl game and that game be crap and not to the standared of a game that was released 3 years ago. You have your developer for this game say he wants to not be compared to NFL2K5.

This stuff is great for the players. I dont think some people realize this.

IMO, Madden shouldn't try to live up to 2k5's standard, but it should live up to the standard of Madden 2005. I'll give 2k5 credit for its awesome presentation, but Madden always had the game play down-at least for last-gen Maddens.