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  • Naphtali
    Rookie
    • Jun 2009
    • 51

    #1

    How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

    I thought back in 06 Madden that the vision cone elevated the game,specifically QB play by making the game more realistic. The awareness rating became more important for a QB, and the pressure was put on running QB type players to develop decent passing skills.
    It gave realistic depth to the passing game.
    Why was the feature never brought to NCAA in 07,08,09 is a wonder to me. AT least make it optional, it would of impacted the game significantly and elevated QB play in that series as well, and toned down the running QB.
    Did EA take it out because the casual fan found it too tough?
    Last edited by Naphtali; 06-22-2009, 08:56 PM.
  • NoLittleBabies
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    • Aug 2008
    • 155

    #2
    Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

    After playing several hours of Madden 06 for PS2 last week, I really believe the dev team behind that game was extremely dedicated to a sim-experience. Whether you felt the feature "worked" or not, the vision cone just shows the dedication to their sim vision. NCAA usually seems to cater more to the arcade crowd, so naturally they weren't going to implement it.

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    • TheRunAndShoot
      MVP
      • Sep 2008
      • 1177

      #3
      Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

      And all this time I thought I was the only guy that like the vision cone...
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      • OpusX910
        Pro
        • Dec 2008
        • 517

        #4
        Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

        vision cone was cool, but i was atrocious at trying to use it, so in retrospect i hated that feature :wink:

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        • yankeesgiants
          I Drink Like A Champion!!
          • Feb 2007
          • 2477

          #5
          Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

          I thought it was a great feature but the lack of a pocket protection made the feature less effective then it should have been.
          I dont remember there names but they were allot of fun....

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          • QuietStorm627
            Rookie
            • Jul 2003
            • 2

            #6
            Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

            I have 08 on PS3 and it's in there. I discovered it by accident just this year lol. I pushed in the right analog stick while scrambling accidentally and there it was. I didn't use it often because I had gotten so used to going without it. I can only speak for 08 but that's how I found it

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            • sois
              Banned
              • Nov 2007
              • 1900

              #7
              Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

              I love the VC. Should be mandatory.

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              • jdrhammer
                MVP
                • Feb 2008
                • 1287

                #8
                Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

                The biggest issues I remember with it were, as one poster just mentioned, the lack of time in the pocket and it was awkward and too time consuming to go from the right analog to the corresponding button. That took a second too much and caused too many sacks. I love the idea of it but it was too slow developing for me.

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                • Pared
                  Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 39337

                  #9
                  Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

                  Originally posted by QuietStorm627
                  I have 08 on PS3 and it's in there. I discovered it by accident just this year lol. I pushed in the right analog stick while scrambling accidentally and there it was. I didn't use it often because I had gotten so used to going without it. I can only speak for 08 but that's how I found it
                  Yes, I was just about to post that it was in there but people did not even notice.

                  I had to use it to make the game more difficult.
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                  • sois
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1900

                    #10
                    Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

                    Originally posted by jdrhammer
                    The biggest issues I remember with it were, as one poster just mentioned, the lack of time in the pocket and it was awkward and too time consuming to go from the right analog to the corresponding button. That took a second too much and caused too many sacks. I love the idea of it but it was too slow developing for me.
                    I always thought that was very realistic. How often does a QB get to scan all of his choices?

                    Also you could throw to a receiver without him being in the vision cone. I always tried to get it there but if not, I would let it fly. It was the only way to programaticallly determine an off target through.

                    A lot of times you would complete the pass anyway, so it wasn't really that big a deal.

                    I miss it, i wish it was back.

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                    • Pokes404
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 1720

                      #11
                      Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

                      The biggest problem for me was that it took too much time to move your thumb from the right analog stick to the face button. I'd almost always get hit and throw a duck or get sacked.

                      I always wondered if they could use the sixaxis controls on the PS3 to control the vision cone. Like, you could move the cone back and forth across the field by tilting your controller. This would allow you to keep your thumb on the receiver buttons the entire time. I have no idea if that would work or not because I can foresee some problems with playing while having your controller tilted at a weird angle; however, it seems like it would be an interesting experiment to try one year. You probably wouldn't want it on by default that first year, but if it was something you could choose to play with I know I'd give it a try.

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #12
                        Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

                        That's part of the problem as well. Guys didn't know that you could use the Left Trigger and then use the passing icons to "look" at a receiver.

                        All it amounted to was a double tap of the passing icons, but that extra bit of time allowed the game to represent the QB looking at his receiver, thus possibly getting sacked.
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                        • stylee
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                          • Apr 2009
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                          #13
                          Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

                          Like a lot of people, I thought it was more realistic but I was terrible at it.

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                          • acts238shaun
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                            • Dec 2005
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                            #14
                            Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

                            Originally posted by stylee
                            Like a lot of people, I thought it was more realistic but I was terrible at it.
                            What he said ^^^

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                            • Radioactiveman
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                              • Jul 2004
                              • 775

                              #15
                              Re: How come the QB vision cone never made its way to NCAA football?

                              Originally posted by Naphtali
                              ... feature never brought to NCAA in 07,08,09 is a wonder to me.
                              That's a "game play" feature that would add excitement, strategy, fun, and challenge to the game. Those kinds of things don't seem to be in EA's strategic plan. They would rather work on customized end zone celebrations, stupid trivia games or smoothing out the aliasing on the stadiums and call them "new" features. Look at their selling points from their own website...would you rather have this crap or a passing cone? Personally, I'd rather have the passing cone:

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