NCAA Football 10 - Current Plans

[peteykirch]

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I don't know. It seems like we're in pretty much the same spot we were in last year when a flawed and buggy game was going to require a major patch after release. I expected last year's fiasco to help persuade EA to right the ship, but I don't see it happening.

While I agree with Pared that we shouldn't be making anyone a "whipping boy," I think it is important to make it very clear that the quality control problems this series has experienced over the past few years is simply not acceptable. The best way to do that is to not buy the game. I'm willing to bet, though, that most of those screaming the loudest about this being a broken game will end up buying it.

And if we shall fall to the need and desire of college football...buy this game used and cut EA out of the profits...

[Happyvally74]

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And if we shall fall to the need and desire of college football...buy this game used and cut EA out of the profits...

But then we cant use teambuilder

[da ThRONe]

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I won't touch it, either. But just because I won't touch it, I'm not going to pretend that it wasn't a HUGE request from the community. And they did improve (or attempt to improve) the gameplay. Whether you think game planning is dumb or not, it was an attempt to add more strategy to the game. Adaptive AI, fixing major bugs (but not quite all of them yet) with the gameplay from a year ago.

To say they completely abandoned the gameplay is ridiculous. Whether you think they failed in their efforts is one thing, but to even start to claim that they don't care about gameplay, in my mind, is absurd.

I will never touch Team Builder as well. When you look on the list of priorities It was in the middle just based on its impact on the actually game. Once again they could have killed to birds with one stone with Team Builder by giving us the ability to add(and i mean add not replace existing schools) schools. With the goal of replacing the generic FCS in dynasty mode.

I think the improvements are to little too late and it is without a doubt because time and resources was spent unwisely. If on my job I continued to make the same mistake that cost the company a ton of money I would be fired and rightfully so!

[countryboy]

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well lets see...

The community asked for teambuilder...its in. The community notices through teambuilder website that the rosters are screwed up. We report here on the boards/forums, the devs see it and the problem is solved.

The community is watching videos that are put on the forums by the owner of the site, notices the pass rush/sliders aren't working as they should. The devs see the same video, notice the same thing and are now looking to remedy the situation.

Again, it seems that the devs being on the boards is paying dividends. I know, people are going to point to other aspects that they feel are shortcoming and say, well they haven't fixed this/that...., but if they weren't on the forums, what are the chances that the rosters, pass rush, or sliders are addressed at all, PRIOR to the game being released?

If a patch is released on launch day that addresses the sliders and other aspects, is it really that big of a deal? Shouldn't this be what we want? Issues spotted before the game releases and can be addressed via patch before the game launches.

No, everything we've asked for isn't in the game, and I'm as disappointed as the next guy..but to act as though as nothing positive is coming out of the devs being on the boards is ridiculous.

And no, the game isn't broken. If we are going to call bugs/glitches/flaws a broken a game, then there isn't a single game that has been released, nor that will ever be released that isn't "broken".

[da ThRONe]

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The community is watching videos that are put on the forums by the owner of the site, notices the pass rush/sliders aren't working as they should. The devs see the same video, notice the same thing and are now looking to remedy the situation.

I dont remember Russ saying anything about the pass rush being patched!

[countryboy]

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I dont remember Russ saying anything about the pass rush being patched!

I used the backslash.../...to show that I was coupling the two together. Its seems that if the sliders were tweaked/fixed/made more effective, then gamers could alter the sliders to get the amount of pass rush they feel is adequate.

[Pared]

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I don't know. It seems like we're in pretty much the same spot we were in last year when a flawed and buggy game was going to require a major patch after release. I expected last year's fiasco to help persuade EA to right the ship, but I don't see it happening.

While I agree with Pared that we shouldn't be making anyone a "whipping boy," I think it is important to make it very clear that the quality control problems this series has experienced over the past few years is simply not acceptable. The best way to do that is to not buy the game. I'm willing to bet, though, that most of those screaming the loudest about this being a broken game will end up buying it.

And I think there are many individuals doing that.

Some will speak with their wallet; others will post more of their displeasure on the boards.

But in no way do guys take it to a personal level... and that's all I'm trying to get at.

[N51_rob]

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I'm just as personally upset over this as anyone else. And how will I show them? By not buying the game, not going off on how people don't do their jobs or whatever.

Cut it out. OS is better than that. And if you've been here long enough, we expect you to know that. And if you haven't, better learn quick or your stay will be a short one.

These two statements ring so true. This forum has fallen off so much lately. There is going to be some anger and I think that people lose sight of the fact that this is a game that no one is forcing anyone to buy. Skipping NCAA is $60 in my pocket and I don't have a problem with that.

[Seahawk76]

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well lets see...

If a patch is released on launch day that addresses the sliders and other aspects, is it really that big of a deal? Shouldn't this be what we want? Issues spotted before the game releases and can be addressed via patch before the game launches.

I think they'll have a method of fixing the rosters by the release date but do we know for a fact that the patch dealing with "sliders and other aspects" will be ready by then? If I remember correctly it took at least a month before the patch came out last year.

If they have a major patch ready by release that deals with the major issues I'll be satisfied with that. I'll also be surprised.

[countryboy]

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I think they'll have a method of fixing the rosters by the release date but do we know for a fact that the patch dealing with "sliders and other aspects" will be ready by then? If I remember correctly it took at least a month before the patch came out last year.

If they have a major patch ready by release that deals with the major issues I'll be satisfied with that. I'll also be surprised.

Oh...I don't think the patch will be ready for launch day that addresses the sliders amongst other things. I was making a hypothetical comment, that if they did have it ready, is it really that big of a deal that these things had to be patched if we never "played the game" without these things working.

[da ThRONe]

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I used the backslash.../...to show that I was coupling the two together. Its seems that if the sliders were tweaked/fixed/made more effective, then gamers could alter the sliders to get the amount of pass rush they feel is adequate.

If they fix the pass rush it will be through a patch specific for the pass rush IMO. It will not be through fixing the sliders. Its is fundmentally broken sliders cant fix fundmentals.

[countryboy]

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If they fix the pass rush it will be through a patch specific for the pass rush IMO. It will not be through fixing the sliders. Its is fundmentally broken sliders cant fix fundmentals.

The pass rush may be addressed via a patch. I was just stating what seems to be a common opinion amongst the community that more effective sliders would help the pass rush.

[Seahawk76]

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Oh...I don't think the patch will be ready for launch day that addresses the sliders amongst other things. I was making a hypothetical comment, that if they did have it ready, is it really that big of a deal that these things had to be patched if we never "played the game" without these things working.

Well, then it's possible that it could be weeks or longer after release before the game is fully patched. That's just not acceptable, IMO, especially since this has become an annual issue with this series. I expected the dev team to learn from last year's fiasco but I'm seeing a repeat of the same mistakes. I gave EA the benefit of the doubt last year, but not this year. Not again. They've squandered that trust.

[JAYMO76]

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Well, then it's possible that it could be weeks or longer after release before the game is fully patched. That's just not acceptable, IMO, especially since this has become an annual issue with this series. I expected the dev team to learn from last year's fiasco but I'm seeing a repeat of the same mistakes. I gave EA the benefit of the doubt last year, but not this year. Not again. They've squandered that trust.

I would expect a patch to arrive in late August or early September.

[hcopenhagenh]

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well lets see...

The community asked for teambuilder...its in. The community notices through teambuilder website that the rosters are screwed up. We report here on the boards/forums, the devs see it and the problem is solved.

The community is watching videos that are put on the forums by the owner of the site, notices the pass rush/sliders aren't working as they should. The devs see the same video, notice the same thing and are now looking to remedy the situation.

Again, it seems that the devs being on the boards is paying dividends. I know, people are going to point to other aspects that they feel are shortcoming and say, well they haven't fixed this/that...., but if they weren't on the forums, what are the chances that the rosters, pass rush, or sliders are addressed at all, PRIOR to the game being released?

If a patch is released on launch day that addresses the sliders and other aspects, is it really that big of a deal? Shouldn't this be what we want? Issues spotted before the game releases and can be addressed via patch before the game launches.

No, everything we've asked for isn't in the game, and I'm as disappointed as the next guy..but to act as though as nothing positive is coming out of the devs being on the boards is ridiculous.

And no, the game isn't broken. If we are going to call bugs/glitches/flaws a broken a game, then there isn't a single game that has been released, nor that will ever be released that isn't "broken".

And everything you have said points to what I said. These sites are more beneficial to the developers than the developers are to this site. They are using people here as Beta Tester.

I am OK that we agree to disagree. You see EA NCAA with the glass half full and I see it as the glass half empty.

I will add this... They shipped a broken game last year. Sliders didn't work, the game needed a patch before it was released, OL/DL interaction was broken, stats were broken, games against the CPU were broken because the AI was broken. What more do you need for that to qualify for a broken game? Had this been any other industry EA would have lost thousands of dollars in refunds.

This years game is being shipped broken. Because of the rosters not being correct people that play online exclusively will be purchasing a broken game. Sliders still don't work, stats are still broke, OL/DL interaction is still broke. This to me qualifies as a broken game.

The past two year have been inexcuseable. It is much different than someone being able to jump into a rock on a FPS.

I have a buddy that play NCAA exclusively. He hasn't played NCAA since early 2008 and the game was so bad he traded it in. He didn't buy 2009 this year. He rented it last week. At the same time he downloaded 10. His comment to me "These games are garbage. They haven't done much since the 2008 game."

There is fantasy and reality. The reality is that NCAA is broken. While playable for some, it is broken to most.