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  • RGiles36
    MVP
    • Jan 2008
    • 3957

    #346
    Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

    Originally posted by BezO
    After AI, animations are the most important thing IMO. The game is just not convincing with unrealistic movement.
    Agree with that ...

    Originally posted by BezO
    Except that the line interaction is still pretty bad. The DTs don't get any push. The DEs take way too long to get up field. There's no where enough mobility in engaged blocks. Outside of the limited steering and ONE real trap block I've seen, not much has changed.

    And I haven't noticed much DB/WR jostling in any of the vids either.
    Absolutely room for improvement. Admittedly, the details and nuances of OL/DL play aren't my strong suit. But I can't say that improvement hasn't been made here. I didn't own Madden 09 long so I can only draw a comparison with Madden 08. When comparing Madden 08's line play to what we'll be seeing in August, I think the difference is pretty apparent. Still like you say, it does require more tweaking. I just personally wouldn't say it's pretty bad in '10.
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    • likesbacon
      Rookie
      • Jul 2008
      • 58

      #347
      Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

      Originally posted by bang911
      Are you serious?

      There is a reason running animations have only come up recently... everything else has gotten that much better!
      My thoughts exactly.

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      • apexbronx
        Rookie
        • Oct 2007
        • 184

        #348
        Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

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        • NYGmen56
          Banned
          • May 2006
          • 258

          #349
          Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

          Originally posted by Hammerhunker
          Running mechanics and an attempt at proper momentum should be the essense of the animation system. The game can fall short in other areas, but if the players move realistically on the field, and is a joy to see, all will be well, for the most part.

          I always felt that the new gen editions would hit a home run if the above was addressed along with signature QB throwing motions. The gameplay will be there overall, with some possible glitches, but with quality realistic animations with new gen graphics, oh boy. The lack of has probably been MY biggest disappointment with the new gen editions. Funny how I went back to the PS2 version last year because it looked better and in turn, played better.
          I totally agree.. And thats the main point I was trying to get across.. Your not the only one who has gone back to the previous versions of madden, hell I still play 2k5 & 2k8 for those reasons alone.. Realism is key..

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          • NYGmen56
            Banned
            • May 2006
            • 258

            #350
            Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

            Originally posted by spankdatazz22
            While many are saying running animations, I think what's meant are the animations in general. It's sort of like the tackling that people complained about for years. Yes it's the tackling, but it's deeper than that - it's the way the players interact, not just how many people can join into a tackle for the end result. While the CB/DB interaction has been improved, DBs seem to exhibit pretty bad form, being able to backpedal nearly fully upright while keeping up with receivers that are supposedly running full speed forward. And it's difficult to see if they actually interact on the fly. The line play has been improved, but it remains to be seen how much the lack of on the fly multiple player interaction/double team blocking will hurt (if it hurts at all). Players in general seem to lack the need to plant appropriately for directional changes. QB form on passes; QB movement in the pocket. We've seen the discussions about the lack of true analog movement.

            Most if not all of the things above are animation/lack of momentum issues. They're attempting to address some of the problems but it remains to be seen if it's anywhere close to the level it needs to be. I would think someone would be able to look past the gorgeous graphics and say "that doesn't really look right". That hype vid they just released has a lot more wrong with it than ball carrier animations.

            This is exactly my point, except I think you said it better Spank.. The key is "animations in general". Madden lacks it and has for to long now. This should have been the #1 Prioirity this offseason.

            This quote says it all, "While the CB/DB interaction has been improved, DBs seem to exhibit pretty bad form, being able to backpedal nearly fully upright while keeping up with receivers that are supposedly running full speed forward. And it's difficult to see if they actually interact on the fly. The line play has been improved, but it remains to be seen how much the lack of on the fly multiple player interaction/double team blocking will hurt (if it hurts at all). Players in general seem to lack the need to plant appropriately for directional changes. QB form on passes; QB movement in the pocket." Imo,all this is the Core of the game.. The fact that the animation system is still poor, is whats hurting madden. period..

            Keep it comin Spank...

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            • Crawi
              Rookie
              • May 2008
              • 209

              #351
              Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

              Originally posted by apexbronx
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              You ever get a response from EA about this?

              Btw, where was scary guy this time?

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              • Hammerhunker
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 3007

                #352
                Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

                Apexbronx's presentation is well done; however, he should have stopped at the runningback's cut. At the end of the play with a db and lb making the tackle, both their momentum and the RB's momentum was going toward the sideline, but the RB ended up flying back toward the left into the momentum, which didn't look right...but I got the jist of his message. This game example moved correctly and looked good, so you barely notice the end, which exemplifies all of our points.

                Upon seeing the first few seconds of the video, for a split second I thought this was another Madden video and didn't realize that Madden looked and moved that good...then realized this was a 5 year old game video being shown.

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                • Dat Boi TJ
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 243

                  #353
                  Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

                  Check out this vid at the end with Devin Hester he makes some good cuts.

                  link

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                  • stiffarmleft
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 1986

                    #354
                    Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

                    Originally posted by Hammerhunker
                    Upon seeing the first few seconds of the video, for a split second I thought this was another Madden video and didn't realize that Madden looked and moved that good...then realized this was a 5 year old game video being shown.
                    I was thinking the same.

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                    • murry
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 185

                      #355
                      Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

                      Originally posted by Scott
                      you mean this?

                      Is this real? This looks like a fake picture (photo-shop).

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                      • Scott
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 20032

                        #356
                        Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

                        Originally posted by murry
                        Is this real? This looks like a fake picture (photo-shop).
                        Yes it's real
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                        • Methlab
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 2384

                          #357
                          Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

                          Originally posted by Hammerhunker
                          Upon seeing the first few seconds of the video, for a split second I thought this was another Madden video and didn't realize that Madden looked and moved that good...then realized this was a 5 year old game video being shown.
                          HAHAHA. Me too! Wow..I am not bashing, but I thought this was the new Madden and got excited thinking they had made major changes. Then I saw it was 2k5 and could not believe it. Unreal how good that still looks.

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                          • stux
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1044

                            #358
                            Re: Ians Twitter: Possible updated running animation vid today!

                            I am fairly certain the timing of this is off. This video has been sped up for some reason. Look at the clock before the TD, it looks to be moving faster then it should.

                            That is my opinion, someone with more time on their hands can use a stop watch and check it out. But I am pretty good with time (music) and those seconds seem to be moving faster then they should.

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                            • stux
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1044

                              #359
                              Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

                              to many pages here. Ian's video is gone.

                              Ian can you change it up so I can see the video? If you reposted it I don't really want to go through 39+ pages to find it. Can you edit the OP and fix that?

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                              • parrothead
                                Pro
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 698

                                #360
                                Re: Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

                                If you change the settings its only 10 pages.

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