NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

[gibbey9]

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great post man! thanks keep the vids coming

[ohyeahbaby123]

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You would need to turn your head back to make that save though.

Goalies can hear the puck ring off the post...

[Ruffy]

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You would need to turn your head back to make that save though.

Not true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fba3DQ1iUEc

#5 of the top 10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0LHo0mWAAM

#3 of the top 10

[Boucher]

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Not true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fba3DQ1iUEc

#5 of the top 10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0LHo0mWAAM

#3 of the top 10

So then we should be seeing saves like that every 7 years then. How'd i know you would whip out some RDS and TSN top 10 highlights:wink:

[Ruffy]

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So then we should be seeing saves like that every 7 years then. How'd i know you would whip out some RDS and TSN top 10 highlights:wink:

If i still worked there I'd be looking for plays on the database they have and making a tape to upload...trust me there are tons from all forms of hockey.

Goalies instinctively reach back when they hear the post. Alot of times they have no idea where the puck is. Just like tons of those tricklers through the pads where they look around cause thay have no idea they have the puck or not.

It's 6 seconds showing off 1 of their new animations. I wouldn't read too much into it.

[tyler289]

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I still despise the splits animation we saw, only because there is no transition to it. It's just a warp. If they would add a transition for it, it'd be amazing, but goalies just warp into 100% splits all over the place.

[Ruffy]

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I still despise the splits animation we saw, only because there is no transition to it. It's just a warp. If they would add a transition for it, it'd be amazing, but goalies just warp into 100% splits all over the place.

If you couyld slow down the video although the last part is a bit choppy. The final position he ends up is pretty logical.

After the desperation save he uses his hands in an attempt to get up.....but he doesn't fully his right pad is still down and he pushes off of it and extends his left pad in desperation as he's already out of position from the previous save.

I just don't understand what the warping issue is...sure it may need another animation in between to make that look more fluid but I'm likeing the AI logic there. Plus that might be the reason the video is cut short at 6 seconds.

I don't think we should really be looking into it much more than that.

[RealmK]

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If you couyld slow down the video although the last part is a bit choppy. The final position he ends up is pretty logical.

After the desperation save he uses his hands in an attempt to get up.....but he doesn't fully his right pad is still down and he pushes off of it and extends his left pad in desperation as he's already out of position from the previous save.

I just don't understand what the warping issue is...sure it may need another animation in between to make that look more fluid but I'm likeing the AI logic there. Plus that might be the reason the video is cut short at 6 seconds.

I don't think we should really be looking into it much more than that.

Agreed and altho it could use another animation or two to make it look more fluid, I still don't think its as bad as people want to make it out to be. Then again we're still 3 months out, who knows maybe they'll be able to polish it a bit more before the retail build.

[Redshirt_EA]

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Agreed and altho it could use another animation or two to make it look more fluid, I still don't think its as bad as people want to make it out to be. Then again we're still 3 months out, who knows maybe they'll be able to polish it a bit more before the retail build.

That video is about a month old, so some stuff has changed. Three months from the retail date doesn't mean there are three months left to work on it. Approvals and manufacturing need to fit in there too, so at the moment we are putting the final touches on the game.

[baa7]

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I still despise the splits animation we saw, only because there is no transition to it. It's just a warp. If they would add a transition for it, it'd be amazing, but goalies just warp into 100% splits all over the place.

Warp? You mean that push off the skate at the end? Seriously, what are people complaining about here? Go look at the bizarre, nightmarish animations in MLB 2K9. Or the next-to-transitionless animations in the Madden 10 vids -- they make the game look like it's running at 10 fps, lol. You'll come back here with a renewed appreciation for the animations in this game.

[Money99]

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I didn't think there was anything wrong with that animation. It looked great.

And didn't anyone else notice that the puck physics seemed to be improved? In 09, that puck would have flown off to the right corner after hitting the right-post.
But in this video you can see the puck is on edge so when it hit the outer-post, it ricocheted awkwardly back to the other side. Great stuff!

About Luongo, I really don't care that the didn't turn his head to look for the puck. It's a video game. If sacrificing players swiveling their heads was needed in order to beef up the AI, tune puck physics, add grinding elements, upgrade GM mode and BAP while adding a playoff mode, then by all means I don't give a crap if a goalie doesn't rotate his head and move his eyeballs in trying to locate the puck.

[tyler289]

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Warp? You mean that push off the skate at the end? Seriously, what are people complaining about here? Go look at the bizarre, nightmarish animations in MLB 2K9. Or the next-to-transitionless animations in the Madden 10 vids -- they make the game look like it's running at 10 fps, lol. You'll come back here with a renewed appreciation for the animations in this game.

Relax, I love the game and think it's looking great, I only watched it twice so maybe he did push off, but the animation still looks weird. Just my opinion.

[LuGer33]

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That video is about a month old, so some stuff has changed. Three months from the retail date doesn't mean there are three months left to work on it. Approvals and manufacturing need to fit in there too, so at the moment we are putting the final touches on the game.

What's funny is a lot of people had trouble scoring on the goalies in 09 first too. I had a buddy message me on Live, "I hate 09. I can't score."

Obviously 8 months later, people are going to have found some money goals and tricks, but honestly, without the glitches, I never found the goalies in 09 to be tremendously bad like some people make them out to be. A little over zealous with the desperation saves from time to time, and they sure struggle when the puck skips through their crease, but that's about it. With all the new animations and work that has gone into the goalies this year, I'm confident exploit goals will be less of a problem in 10 than they were in 09.

[Splitter77]

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What's funny is a lot of people had trouble scoring on the goalies in 09 first too. I had a buddy message me on Live, "I hate 09. I can't score."

Obviously 8 months later, people are going to have found some money goals and tricks, but honestly, without the glitches, I never found the goalies in 09 to be tremendously bad like some people make them out to be. A little over zealous with the desperation saves from time to time, and they sure struggle when the puck skips through their crease, but that's about it. With all the new animations and work that has gone into the goalies this year, I'm confident exploit goals will be less of a problem in 10 than they were in 09.

the goalies after the first patch were too good. They reminded me of the super goalies of nhl 2k3. I want them to be good, but not good to make up for the bad defensive AI.

[Ruffy]

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the goalies after the first patch were too good. They reminded me of the super goalies of nhl 2k3. I want them to be good, but not good to make up for the bad defensive AI.

Newss Flash! NHL Goalies are good.

I have a bunch of friends that played Jr and College hockey at high levels. They in turn have friends in the NHL and other big leagues in Europe.

They say that NHL goalies for the most part will stop any puck they can see.....barring a perfect shot, or a misplay on there end. Goals come when forcing the goalie to move quickley side to side. Traffic in front. Or just being beat in close on a quick release.

People forget even crud goalies in the NHL have save percentages just under .900 that means they stop 9 out of 10 shots....and they are the worst ones....

Source...

http://www.nhl.com/ice/app?service=p...ercentage&pg=2

Sometimes I really wonder what people think about sports in this forum and the baseball one.