Should NCAA Football 10 Get Your Business? (Who Needs Rules)

[hcopenhagenh]

Re: Should NCAA Football 10 Get Your Business? (Who Needs Rules)

Maybe, but sales of NCAA have been going down for the past few years. Some people have obviously stopped buying the game.

Actually, a lot of people are passing on this game. Some guy posted VG Chartz Stats on here and the decline is staggering. In fact, I believe their sales on LG are almost as good if not better than on NG.

[GoBlue10]

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People aren't bluffing. The economy is horrible and there is better stuff to spend 60 bones on. Why would someone bluff about the $60.00? It is more beneficial just to give the money to a bum on the corner. He may use it on another high, but at least I will feel good about helping someone out. If I give the $60.00 to EA it is just for Bleep and Giggles because I sure ain't getting nothing out of the POS product.

i'm not saying ppl are bluffing , i'm saying 90% of the ppl on here are bluffing.

NCAA sales may go down a little bit, but not nearly low enough to consider it threatning to the franchise.

trust me i'm not happy w/ this years game, but its not nearly bad enough to not buy. ppl are complaining about rosters and ea is releasing downloadable rosters and there are numerous ppl who create their own rosters so that's not an excuse not to buy it.

[fistofrage]

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i'm not saying ppl are bluffing , i'm saying 90% of the ppl on here are bluffing.

NCAA sales may go down a little bit, but not nearly low enough to consider it threatning to the franchise.
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Tell that to the investors. No, the franchise won't go away, but someone will have some explaining to do if sales keep diminishing. The economy alone will have a large impact, but if the reviews come in stale and the sales aren't keeping pace with projections there will have to be changes made. Thats just business.

And I do think the reviews will come in fairly low for this game. To the common person the game is the same as last year. To the hardcore gamer the repetitive broken features and exclusions will rear its ugly head this year.

[coogrfan]

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Actually, a lot of people are passing on this game. Some guy posted VG Chartz Stats on here and the decline is staggering. In fact, I believe their sales on LG are almost as good if not better than on NG.

Umm ... no.

Here are the recent sales figures for the NCAA franchise according to VG Chartz:

Xbox 360:
NCAA 07: 740,000
NCAA 08: 730,000
NCAA 09: 680,000

PS3:
NCAA 07: NA
NCAA 08: 340,000
NCAA 09: 410,000

PS2:
NCAA 07: 1,340,000
NCAA 08: 660,000
NCAA 09: 380,000

Xbox:
2007:43,000
2008:7,000
2009: NA

Total:
NCAA 07: 2,123,000 (LG = 1,383,000; NG 740,000)
NCAA 08: 1,737,000 (LG = 667,000; NG = 1,070,000)
NCAA 09: 1,470,000 (LG = 380,000; NG = 1,090,000)

[CandyEyes32]

Re: Should NCAA Football 10 Get Your Business? (Who Needs Rules)

I am still on the fence. I probably will wait a few days and see what the general opinion is. Most likely will not be a release day buy.

[Seahawk76]

Re: Should NCAA Football 10 Get Your Business? (Who Needs Rules)

trust me i'm not happy w/ this years game, but its not nearly bad enough to not buy. ppl are complaining about rosters and ea is releasing downloadable rosters and there are numerous ppl who create their own rosters so that's not an excuse not to buy it.

The rosters will probably be fixable at release but not some of the other problems like broken sliders. That will require a major patch which may not show up until weeks or months after release.

The game isn't horrible...it's just bland. After playing the demo there was no "wow" factor in it for me and it seemed to play pretty much like last year's game that I lost interest in after about a week.

Buggy and mediocre just isn't going to cut it anymore. Not when other sports games are really starting to hit their stride on next gen.

[hcopenhagenh]

Re: Should NCAA Football 10 Get Your Business? (Who Needs Rules)

Umm ... no.

Thanks for posting.

The trend for NG isn't good. They only sold 20,000 more copies in 2009 than 2008. My guess is that you will see a decrease in NG copies sold this year. I am also going to go out on a limb and say that LG sales will be slightly better.

[fistofrage]

Re: Should NCAA Football 10 Get Your Business? (Who Needs Rules)

Total:
NCAA 07: 2,123,000 (LG = 1,383,000; NG 740,000)
NCAA 08: 1,737,000 (LG = 667,000; NG = 1,070,000)
NCAA 09: 1,470,000 (LG = 380,000; NG = 1,090,000)

So they have lost 600,000 NCAA players in the span of 3 years. 30% decline.

Someone has some definite explaining to do. The proof is right there. NCAA football has gotten stale. Other innovative games have replaced it for the gamers dollar. The exclusive license hasn't brought any tangible benefit. Repetetive purchases like an annual sports game definitely need to show tangible value from year to year or else people will forego the product and either go a different direction or wait until next year. Unfortunately, EA thinks its gimmicks that will sell the product and to keep it fresh, they omit features that were there before only to unveil them as new 3 years later. Its really starting to get old. Tightening up the gameplay and some extra presentation is all it needs every year, not gimmicks.

As a hardcore sports gamer, I view this as a positive. The hardcore gamers are taking up a larger % of total sales. Hopefully they get things right before they lose us too. I think alot of us will grudgingly buy 2010, but in its current state, this franchise is played out. Its been 3-5 years and a generation ago since this franchise hit its pinacle. 2008 was its low point with the Swarm of bees broken pursuit angles on last gen and Pick 6 factory on current gen. Its starting to make its way back, but it will be 2013 or so before we see a game as solide as 2004 or 2006. Thats sad.

[GoBlue10]

Re: Should NCAA Football 10 Get Your Business? (Who Needs Rules)

I'm agreeing w/ almost everything everyone is posting on here (feature and gameplay wise), I'm saying that most of the ppl on this board that are thumping their chest stating "I'm not buying the game" will probably at one point or another buy the game. It doesn't matter if you buy it new or used bc in order to buy it used someone has to buy it new.

The numbers don't lie and if sales do go down slightly this year then EA will say "well the economy is down right now."

Is it frustrating, YES, do I want to see significant changes in some aspects, YES, but after 5 years of waiting I don't know if its going to happen anytime soon.

For years I've been saying the same thing. Focus on gameplay and presentation first and then add the childish gimmics after the main gameplay is taken care of.

[rudyjuly2]

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I just cancelled my pre-order today and moved it towards Uncharted 2. No way I'm buying this game at release. I'll still consider it after I read impressions, they patch the sliders, the sliders work, and there are no major problems. Maybe I'll pick it up used but the current state of the game does not warrant full price from me. I might just spend it on Madden but I'll be renting that game first as well.

I still hate that they took away the old camera angle rather than just give us both camera options in the first place. You see dumb decisions like that along with broken sliders and it's hard to have faith that they really consider our desires here at OS. They don't have to but they certainly don't seem to be catering to the hardcore crowd like the Madden team is.

[hcopenhagenh]

Re: Should NCAA Football 10 Get Your Business? (Who Needs Rules)

I just cancelled my pre-order today and moved it towards Uncharted 2. No way I'm buying this game at release. I'll still consider it after I read impressions, they patch the sliders, the sliders work, and there are no major problems. Maybe I'll pick it up used but the current state of the game does not warrant full price from me. I might just spend it on Madden but I'll be renting that game first as well.

I still hate that they took away the old camera angle rather than just give us both camera options in the first place. You see dumb decisions like that along with broken sliders and it's hard to have faith that they really consider our desires here at OS. They don't have to but they certainly don't seem to be catering to the hardcore crowd like the Madden team is.

With the sales figures declining... What are they really focusing on? It is a serious question because it seems that they aren't really satisfying anyone.

We basically see these crowds around here...
1. Hardcore Gamers that took the blue pill in the Matrix and have seen EA for what it is worth. This group isn't buying the game.

2. The group that says "I have to have my CFB Fix.." Most think the game needs to be better, but need to have their fix.

3. Hardcore Gamer that keeps on taking the Red Pill. For the most part, they think they game could be better but are going to buy it anyway because they don't think the game is that bad either.

4. EA Fanboys and there are many. It wouldn't matter what EA did they are going to try to sleep with each developer because they are there heroes.

#4 is a joke people.

[doctorhay53]

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I've been one of those folks who was kind of '#3'. The game is always more fun to me than Madden so I get it regardless. In fact I've been one of the people defending NCAA '10 thus far.

That was before I played the demo and actually started watching some of the Madden videos.

For the first time since '03, I'm not buying NCAA. I'm replacing it with Madden. The difference between the games is so obviously GIGANTIC, that I am not letting myself justify it this year. I would probably play the heck out of NCAA if I did buy it, to be honest. I would have some fun too. But this year's football experience is going to be really, really good in Madden. I'm sending my message to EA by rewarding the Madden team for their efforts with my money. As much as I hate to do it, I admit that I had the blinders on for NCAA and I am taking them off now.

[hcopenhagenh]

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I've been one of those folks who was kind of '#3'. The game is always more fun to me than Madden so I get it regardless. In fact I've been one of the people defending NCAA '10 thus far.

That was before I played the demo and actually started watching some of the Madden videos.

For the first time since '03, I'm not buying NCAA. I'm replacing it with Madden. The difference between the games is so obviously GIGANTIC, that I am not letting myself justify it this year. I would probably play the heck out of NCAA if I did buy it, to be honest. I would have some fun too. But this year's football experience is going to be really, really good in Madden. I'm sending my message to EA by rewarding the Madden team for their efforts with my money. As much as I hate to do it, I admit that I had the blinders on for NCAA and I am taking them off now.

So you have taken the blue pill. Welcome. LOL...

[RoyalBoyle78]

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I just cancelled my pre-order today and moved it towards Uncharted 2. No way I'm buying this game at release. I'll still consider it after I read impressions, they patch the sliders, the sliders work, and there are no major problems. Maybe I'll pick it up used but the current state of the game does not warrant full price from me. I might just spend it on Madden but I'll be renting that game first as well.

I still hate that they took away the old camera angle rather than just give us both camera options in the first place. You see dumb decisions like that along with broken sliders and it's hard to have faith that they really consider our desires here at OS. They don't have to but they certainly don't seem to be catering to the hardcore crowd like the Madden team is.

Well, I really have been thinking about it hard, and I have been [playing 09 lately and still enjoying it, I may not bark at the game this year either. Honestly, I really don't see and thing changed worth buying this years version. I do not nit pick like many of you hear do, so 09 still feels fresh to me.

[rudyjuly2]

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Well, I really have been thinking about it hard, and I have been [playing 09 lately and still enjoying it, I may not bark at the game this year either. Honestly, I really don't see and thing changed worth buying this years version. I do not nit pick like many of you hear do, so 09 still feels fresh to me.

I had fun with 09. My biggest beefs were the lack of a cpu running game, very weak sliders and the lack of a cpu deep ball. Working sliders can fix the cpu running game but that's already broken in 10 and who knows how they will work? The cpu deep ball returned in NCAA 10 but other options in 10 still look broken or got worse. The QB seems to scrambles less when he's got open field in the demo. The new camera sucks imo. I still see robo QB and too many INTs potentially. The PS3 graphics and sound were worse (crowd chant awful in the demo). Game planning seems overdone (agressive = fumble fest). I just don't see how a demo so rough can turn around and be such an improved retail product to warrant my $60.

That said, aside from the camera issue I think NCAA 10 will be a little better than 09 after the patches. If you liked 09 I'm sure people will still enjoy NCAA 10 and get your monies worth. I don't have a problem with people buying the game and I'm not going to lead an anti-EA movement. I'm simply making this decision based on my personal feelings only.

I've been having fun with NCAA 09 again and after accepting its faults and problems, I will probably enjoy it more. I'm going to start a new dynasty soon. I'll see how long I will go with it.