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  • hcopenhagenh
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    • Jun 2009
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    #16
    Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

    Originally posted by moylan55
    The point is that the game isn't even out yet and already all these people have made teams. Of course the number is only going to grow after the games release. Think about it it's pretty much only the hardcore community that even knows about teambuilder at this point. The casual audience isn't going to know about it until they load the game in and see it on the menu.
    The numbers aren't going to increase much at all after release. These numbers are really low. Team Builder is basically a hard core feature, especially the way it is set up. The Casual Gamer isn't going to care much about this feature. Having to go to the PC to create, transfer teams, blah blah blah. Just to much work for the casual gamer. Same thing for me... just to much work for me to have any interest. If it were on the game disc or included as an extra disc with the game I might play with it for a couple of hours. I just don't see the casual gamer wanting to spend time with team builder. Casual gamers pick up a game, play for a couple of weeks and trade the game in.

    The 100,000 teams is very deceiving. I would expect a new feature that was REALLY wanted would garner much more attention than what it has received. Especially with the feature being free, new to NG, and being able to create countless numbers of teams. 100,000 is a large number, but it is only a small portion of the NCAA community. Glad you got it, but it is a wasted feature until game play is fixed.
    Last edited by hcopenhagenh; 07-01-2009, 04:08 PM.

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    • OMT
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      #17
      Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

      Originally posted by hcopenhagenh
      The numbers seem very low to me.
      We are estimating 750,000 teams will be created. We are well ahead of where we thought we would be.

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      • OMT
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        • Jun 2008
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        #18
        Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

        Originally posted by moylan55
        The point is that the game isn't even out yet and already all these people have made teams. Of course the number is only going to grow after the games release. Think about it it's pretty much only the hardcore community that even knows about teambuilder at this point. The casual audience isn't going to know about it until they load the game in and see it on the menu.
        Exactly. We are very encouraged by the amount of teams that have been created!

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        • moylan1234
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          • Jul 2004
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          #19
          Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

          Originally posted by hcopenhagenh
          The numbers aren't going to increase much at all after release. These numbers are really low. Team Builder is basically a hard core feature, especially the way it is set up. The Casual Gamer isn't going to care much about this feature. Having to go to the PC to create, transfer teams, blah blah blah. Just to much work for the casual gamer. Same thing for me... just to much work for me to have any interest.
          It's barely any work at all, you'd know this if you tried it.
          If it were on the game disc or included as an extra disc with the game I might play with it for a couple of hours.
          then it wouldn't be any where near as good as it is and you wouldn't be able to make authentic looking teams so it'd basically be a huge waste of time.
          I just don't see the casual gamer wanting to spend time with team builder. Casual gamers pick up a game, play for a couple of weeks and trade the game in.
          I disagree, but obviously time will tell

          Adam, any chance you could tell us how many users have made at least one team?
          Last edited by moylan1234; 07-01-2009, 04:12 PM.

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          • hcopenhagenh
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            #20
            Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

            Originally posted by Adam_Thompson_EA
            We are estimating 750,000 teams will be created. We are well ahead of where we thought we would be.
            But 750,000 is a relatively low number when you start looking at percentages. I am a businessman and I look at it like this. People using Team Builder are going to make at least 5 different teams. Lets limit this and say they make 3 each. With your number of 750,000 created teams, this is a relatively small percentage of people using this feature. This gives you 250,000 people using the Team Builder. If you only sell 1 million copies, you have only targeted 25% of your audience. Being the businessman I am, I want to satisfy as close to 100% as I can. This is especially so when you have people abandoning this game in record numbers this year.

            750,000 created teams sounds like a lot, which it is a huge number, but when you talk of people actually using the program those numbers are low.
            Last edited by hcopenhagenh; 07-01-2009, 04:21 PM.

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            • moylan1234
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              #21
              Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

              hcopenhagenh, here's a NCAA Strategies poll you may want to keep an eye on. http://www.ncaastrategies.com/utopia...ad.php?t=67947

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              • hcopenhagenh
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                #22
                Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

                Originally posted by moylan55
                hcopenhagenh, here's a NCAA Strategies poll you may want to keep an eye on. http://www.ncaastrategies.com/utopia...ad.php?t=67947
                LOL... Why? This poll is skewed.

                Adaptive AI --- It is horrible in the demo so why would anyone look forward to it.

                Art, Wind Socks, etc. Who cares about this stuff anyway?

                Custom Conferences---- Again who really cares?

                Defensive Keys--- I don't even understand this option.

                Game Planning--- One of the dumbest features EA ever put into a game.

                Improve Pursuit Angle--- Small item that should have been in the game in 2008

                Improved OL/DL--- The demo shows it is still broken

                Improved WR/DB Interaction--- It is still broken

                Layered Blending--- This is really an option?

                Player Lock--- Another wasted option.

                Road to Glory--- Another dumb addition to this game even from the Race to the Heisman days. Also a feature that has been in the game for several years.

                Season Showdown--- Yeah... another great feature.

                Just a skewed poll. Heck I wouldn't even vote because nothing there interests me at all.

                To let you know... I am glad you have this feature. But, there are a bunch of things that needed to be fixed before this feature was introduced. Same thing goes with OD from last year. This is the entire point I am trying to make. NCAA doesn't play like a football game. OL/DL blocking and interaction is horrendous. These things are huge because college football is built on schemes and there is no scheme in NCAA. It is just straight head on blocking. The entire engine needs to be rebuilt for this series. There are just a bunch of other things needed for this game to play and replicate football that it doesn't have now. All I am saying is fix features that effect close to 100% of the people. EA as it is now has turned a bunch of people off. I am predicting a decline in sales this year and EA will rub them off as a bad economy. I will attribute it to a bad game.

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                • moylan1234
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                  #23
                  Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

                  Originally posted by hcopenhagenh
                  750,000 created teams sounds like a lot, which it is a huge number, but when you talk of people actually using the program those numbers are low.
                  but again your missing something here. How about the number of people that will download a team someone else created. Even though these people aren't going in and making teams themselves they are still in fact using the feature.

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                  • notoriouzwun
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                    • Jul 2008
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                    #24
                    Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

                    Hey Steve, is it possible to maybe get a few screen shots of the logos on the field? This has been my biggest concern. I'm afraid the logos on the field may look jagged or off a bit..

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                    • JAYMO76
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                      • Aug 2008
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                      #25
                      Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

                      Originally posted by Adam_Thompson_EA
                      Exactly. We are very encouraged by the amount of teams that have been created!
                      Congrats on your success thus far. HOWEVER, you have 100,000 + teams but the better question is how many creators do you have? I have been having fun designing uniforms and have like 18 teams (I probably won't use them because I like realism but it's fun... kind of like an A.D. director). Probably everyone on these forums account for 1,000's of teams?????
                      Roar you Lions roar!

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                      • prowler
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                        #26
                        Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

                        Originally posted by hcopenhagenh
                        But 750,000 is a relatively low number when you start looking at percentages. I am a businessman and I look at it like this. People using Team Builder are going to make at least 5 different teams. Lets limit this and say they make 3 each. With your number of 750,000 created teams, this is a relatively small percentage of people using this feature. This gives you 250,000 people using the Team Builder. If you only sell 1 million copies, you have only targeted 25% of your audience. Being the businessman I am, I want to satisfy as close to 100% as I can. This is especially so when you have people abandoning this game in record numbers this year.

                        750,000 created teams sounds like a lot, which it is a huge number, but when you talk of people actually using the program those numbers are low.
                        The problem here is it is impossible to satisfy 100% of your audience. The OS community alone wanted a million different things, it just so happens the ones who didn't get what they wanted are currently banging the drum the loudest.

                        The other issue you're assuming is that all these teams were created by gamers who already purchase the game and there is no way of knowing that. You see it as 25% of the current audience when it could be a 25% increase. This will be the first next gen version of NCAA I've ever purchased, due in large part to Teambuilder, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

                        Only time will tell but as of right now it's just numbers that can be interpreted many ways.

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                        • moylan1234
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                          • Jul 2004
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                          #27
                          Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

                          Originally posted by hcopenhagenh
                          LOL... Why? This poll is skewed.

                          Adaptive AI --- It is horrible in the demo so why would anyone look forward to it.

                          Art, Wind Socks, etc. Who cares about this stuff anyway?

                          Custom Conferences---- Again who really cares?

                          Defensive Keys--- I don't even understand this option.

                          Game Planning--- One of the dumbest features EA ever put into a game.

                          Improve Pursuit Angle--- Small item that should have been in the game in 2008

                          Improved OL/DL--- The demo shows it is still broken

                          Improved WR/DB Interaction--- It is still broken

                          Layered Blending--- This is really an option?

                          Player Lock--- Another wasted option.

                          Road to Glory--- Another dumb addition to this game even from the Race to the Heisman days. Also a feature that has been in the game for several years.

                          Season Showdown--- Yeah... another great feature.

                          Just a skewed poll. Heck I wouldn't even vote because nothing there interests me at all.

                          To let you know... I am glad you have this feature. But, there are a bunch of things that needed to be fixed before this feature was introduced. Same thing goes with OD from last year. This is the entire point I am trying to make. NCAA doesn't play like a football game. OL/DL blocking and interaction is horrendous. These things are huge because college football is built on schemes and there is no scheme in NCAA. It is just straight head on blocking. The entire engine needs to be rebuilt for this series. There are just a bunch of other things needed for this game to play and replicate football that it doesn't have now. All I am saying is fix features that effect close to 100% of the people. EA as it is now has turned a bunch of people off. I am predicting a decline in sales this year and EA will rub them off as a bad economy. I will attribute it to a bad game.
                          And we're done talking. Wow i'm really not trying to insult you, but i don't even know why you're here. It's kind of beyond my comprehension how you can not understand some of these features. Also how on earth can the poll be skewed? that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard they laid out every new addition to this year's game and said which one are you the most excited for. I'm dumbfounded right now, nice talking to you take care.

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                          • hcopenhagenh
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                            • Jun 2009
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                            #28
                            Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

                            Originally posted by moylan55
                            but again your missing something here. How about the number of people that will download a team someone else created. Even though these people aren't going in and making teams themselves they are still in fact using the feature.
                            No offense, but you just don't get it.

                            And why would anyone else use another persons created team? That seems stupid to me.

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                            • hcopenhagenh
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                              #29
                              Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

                              Originally posted by moylan55
                              And we're done talking. Wow i'm really not trying to insult you, but i don't even know why you're here. It's kind of beyond my comprehension how you can not understand some of these features. Also how on earth can the poll be skewed? that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard they laid out every new addition to this year's game and said which one are you the most excited for. I'm dumbfounded right now, nice talking to you take care.

                              Team Builder is not a new feature. OL/DL interaction is not a feature. DB/WR interaction is not a new feature. Art is not a feature. Road to Glory isn't a new feature only a new name. Improved pursuit angles is not a feature. Defensive keys is not a new feature.

                              There needed to be a feature up there that stated "None of the above."

                              This poll only represents option for people that will be purchasing this game. If people aren't purchasing this game they aren't going to vote. There are a lot of people at NCAA Strategies that aren't purchasing this game. There fore this poll is skewed.

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                              • moylan1234
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                                • Jul 2004
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                                #30
                                Re: NCAA Football 10: TeamBuilder Has 100,000 User-Created Teams (Team OS Screenshots

                                Originally posted by hcopenhagenh
                                No offense, but you just don't get it.

                                And why would anyone else use another persons created team? That seems stupid to me.
                                many people are making FCS teams, you don't understand why someone who is a FCS fan and doesn't want to go through the process of making the team themselves would simply download someone else's work? you are the clearly the one not getting it.

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