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  • Splitter77
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 2820

    #61
    Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

    Originally posted by Ruffy
    Newss Flash! NHL Goalies are good.

    I have a bunch of friends that played Jr and College hockey at high levels. They in turn have friends in the NHL and other big leagues in Europe.

    They say that NHL goalies for the most part will stop any puck they can see.....barring a perfect shot, or a misplay on there end. Goals come when forcing the goalie to move quickley side to side. Traffic in front. Or just being beat in close on a quick release.

    People forget even crud goalies in the NHL have save percentages just under .900 that means they stop 9 out of 10 shots....and they are the worst ones....

    Source...

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/app?service=p...ercentage&pg=2

    Sometimes I really wonder what people think about sports in this forum and the baseball one.
    I know theyre good. Its just not fun when you have 30 quality chances to the CPU's 4, and youre losing 4-0.

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    • Money99
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2002
      • 12696

      #62
      Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

      Originally posted by Splitter77
      I know theyre good. Its just not fun when you have 30 quality chances to the CPU's 4, and youre losing 4-0.
      Good point. The CPU's goalies are good, while the user's is not.

      But it sounds like that's been fixed in '10. Can't wait.

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      • baa7
        Banned
        • Jul 2004
        • 11691

        #63
        Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

        Originally posted by Ruffy
        Newss Flash! NHL Goalies are good.

        Sometimes I really wonder what people think about sports in this forum and the baseball one.
        It has nothing to do with how good goalies are in the NHL. It's a matter of gameplay balance in the video version of the sport. For many of us, goalie skill is out of balance in relation to the rest of the gameplay. I can easily skate up the ice, for example. I can walk into the CPU's zone, every rush. I can skate around in circles and the CPU can't touch me. I can kill penalties by simply skating up and down the ice, and the CPU will never touch the puck. But I seldom score more than 1 goal a game -- the goalies play like Jacques Plante incarnate.

        The gameplay is out of whack. Goalies need to play less like brick walls and CPU defenders need to check with some intensity.
        Last edited by baa7; 06-30-2009, 02:34 PM.

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        • Boucher
          Banned
          • Nov 2008
          • 1774

          #64
          Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

          Originally posted by baa7
          It has nothing to do with how good goalies are in the NHL. It's a matter of gameplay balance in the video version of the sport. For many of us, goalie skill is out of balance in relation to the rest of the gameplay. I can easily skate up the ice, for example. I can walk into the CPU's zone, every rush. I can skate around in circles and the CPU can't touch me. I can kill penalties by simply skating up and down the ice, and the CPU will never touch the puck. But I seldom score more than 1 goal a game -- the goalies play like Jacques Plante incarnate.

          The gameplay is out of whack. Goalies need to play less like brick walls and CPU defenders need to check with some intensity.
          Its more like Patrick Roy or Garth Snow before equipment regulation

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          • RealmK
            Banned
            • Sep 2003
            • 4198

            #65
            Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

            Originally posted by Redshirt_EA
            That video is about a month old, so some stuff has changed. Three months from the retail date doesn't mean there are three months left to work on it. Approvals and manufacturing need to fit in there too, so at the moment we are putting the final touches on the game.
            Yeah that did cross my mind as well. I wasn't sure what your cut off date was to get the final build ready for mass production and the like, I figured maybe you guys had a couple weeks left before having to submit a final master.

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            • Splitter77
              MVP
              • Mar 2003
              • 2820

              #66
              Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

              Originally posted by baa7
              It has nothing to do with how good goalies are in the NHL. It's a matter of gameplay balance in the video version of the sport. For many of us, goalie skill is out of balance in relation to the rest of the gameplay. I can easily skate up the ice, for example. I can walk into the CPU's zone, every rush. I can skate around in circles and the CPU can't touch me. I can kill penalties by simply skating up and down the ice, and the CPU will never touch the puck. But I seldom score more than 1 goal a game -- the goalies play like Jacques Plante incarnate.

              The gameplay is out of whack. Goalies need to play less like brick walls and CPU defenders need to check with some intensity.

              exactly

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              • RealmK
                Banned
                • Sep 2003
                • 4198

                #67
                Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

                Originally posted by baa7
                It has nothing to do with how good goalies are in the NHL. It's a matter of gameplay balance in the video version of the sport. For many of us, goalie skill is out of balance in relation to the rest of the gameplay. I can easily skate up the ice, for example. I can walk into the CPU's zone, every rush. I can skate around in circles and the CPU can't touch me. I can kill penalties by simply skating up and down the ice, and the CPU will never touch the puck. But I seldom score more than 1 goal a game -- the goalies play like Jacques Plante incarnate.

                The gameplay is out of whack. Goalies need to play less like brick walls and CPU defenders need to check with some intensity.
                If you're patient on offense, look for screens and work the puck around the goals come easy enough in 09. Sure you can skate in all day long and one timer it or just fire it on net, much like real life its going to get stopped. I'd much rather it be that way and present a challenge then be able to score at will. I can easily see AI CPU goalies being more scorable on this year anyway with the elemination of the puck magnets and rolling down the backs anyway.

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                • baa7
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 11691

                  #68
                  Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

                  Originally posted by RealmK
                  I'd much rather it be that way and present a challenge then be able to score at will.
                  Oh yeah, I understand that, and I understand why goalies are so good on the higher levels. I really don't have an issue with it as just I edit goalie ratings before playing on the higher difficulty levels. I was just responding to the post about NHL goalies being good, when the issue raised actually had to do with gameplay balance concerns.

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                  • savoie2006
                    R.I.P 2KHockey 2000-2011
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 4657

                    #69
                    Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

                    Doesn't NHL 10 have plenty of Goalie sliders this year? That should have prevent the "god goalie" problem, except online, but that's OK. The better the AI goalies can stop the glitchers the better.
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                    • Ruffy
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1516

                      #70
                      Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

                      Originally posted by RealmK
                      If you're patient on offense, look for screens and work the puck around the goals come easy enough in 09. Sure you can skate in all day long and one timer it or just fire it on net, much like real life its going to get stopped. I'd much rather it be that way and present a challenge then be able to score at will. I can easily see AI CPU goalies being more scorable on this year anyway with the elemination of the puck magnets and rolling down the backs anyway.
                      Exactly.

                      The game has sliders this year so you can adjust for your offline tastes. Me I love the goalies to be walls forcing me to pound in rebounds and capitalize on 2 on 1s or maybe even a rare breakaway chance.
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                      • BigH2k6
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 256

                        #71
                        Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

                        Originally posted by Ruffy
                        Exactly.

                        The game has sliders this year so you can adjust for your offline tastes.
                        Lets hope they work properly

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                        • Flyermania
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 2182

                          #72
                          Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

                          Originally posted by BigH2k6
                          Lets hope they work properly
                          I felt they had much more of a noticable impact than the sliders in NHL 09.
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                          • RaychelSnr
                            Executive Editor
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 4845

                            #73
                            Ha...I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who gets peeved at sliders which either don't work or barely work.

                            Video is nice, the guys working on NHL 10 seem to have it together too, so I'm hoping/expecting this year to be another good year for video game hockey.
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                            • akula
                              Rookie
                              • May 2007
                              • 409

                              #74
                              Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

                              Originally posted by savoie2006
                              Doesn't NHL 10 have plenty of Goalie sliders this year? That should have prevent the "god goalie" problem, except online, but that's OK. The better the AI goalies can stop the glitchers the better.
                              see, the goalies don't have to be "god goalies" to be able to stop glitchers! they just need to have human-like behaviour ie: learn and adapt to glitchers shots, yet still able to be beaten.

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                              • BigH2k6
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 256

                                #75
                                Re: NHL 10 Video: New Goalie Animation

                                Originally posted by Flyermania
                                I felt they had much more of a noticable impact than the sliders in NHL 09.
                                That is great Flyer. Not that I doubt what you are saying, but I still remain a little unconvinced given the statement last year that passes were not going to be tape to tape and how passing actually was in NHL09 (tape to tape all the time)

                                Seeing is beleiving :wink:

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