EA Reveals First DLC Plans For Fight Night Round 4 (Press Release)

[vision]

Re: EA Reveals First DLC Plans For Fight Night Round 4 (Press Release)

Check out the editors note in this article.

"Just as a small editor’s note (an editor who’s also a professional videogame reviewer), the Total Punch Control system mapped to the right analogue stick is slick, accurate and devastating when used skilfully.
Anyone pining for button control integration in Fight Night Round 4 is simply not a very good gamer and should perhaps try something a little less testing… like waggle-friendly Punch out!! on the Nintendo Wii."

Link to article.

Sounds no different than someone on this thread who is an advocate for TPC. Honestly, this guy sounds very ignorant, and insulting to the pros that have mastered the button controls. Just because he's an editor doesn't make his word gold. Check out what PastaPadre had to say:

"Now though I almost want to go back to the buttons. I’m finding the stick to be inconsistent and too mechanical in nature. Rarely am I able to counter and in many cases I’m having to think about the type of punch and motion involved instead of going off reaction. This is especially the case with haymakers where you’re required to hold the RB which is incredibly awkward. I pretty much have forgotten about attempting to put combinations together. Not to mention that frequently I’m making motions with the stick and no punch comes or the wrong one is thrown.
The ironic thing is that one of the main reasons for removing the buttons was due to imbalance vs the analog stick with online. What that actually means is the buttons were more effective and precise. Now you just have people online stick “mashing” basically meaning nothing has changed. A proper fatigue system could’ve balanced things regardless of the control scheme being used. However people are throwing punches like crazy and not having to pay for it. Against the wrong person online it makes for a very frustrating experience."

[bcruise]

Re: EA Reveals First DLC Plans For Fight Night Round 4 (Press Release)

I'm actually a little worried if they tweak stamina for online. Remember that it doesn't only deplete by throwing a massive amount of punches - it also decreases when you get hit by body shots. My worry is that online might become nothing but body shots because it will tire the other guy out so fast.

I'm VERY happy to see that they're adding it as a slider though.

[parker002]

Re: EA Reveals First DLC Plans For Fight Night Round 4 (Press Release)

Check out the editors note in this article.

"Just as a small editor’s note (an editor who’s also a professional videogame reviewer), the Total Punch Control system mapped to the right analogue stick is slick, accurate and devastating when used skilfully.
Anyone pining for button control integration in Fight Night Round 4 is simply not a very good gamer and should perhaps try something a little less testing… like waggle-friendly Punch out!! on the Nintendo Wii."

Link to article.

That's pretty funny.

[Chef Matt]

Re: EA Reveals First DLC Plans For Fight Night Round 4 (Press Release)

I'm actually a little worried if they tweak stamina for online. Remember that it doesn't only deplete by throwing a massive amount of punches - it also decreases when you get hit by body shots. My worry is that online might become nothing but body shots because it will tire the other guy out so fast.

I'm VERY happy to see that they're adding it as a slider though.

Yeah that's a pretty good point about body shots. Hopefully they take that into consideration.

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

Re: EA Reveals First DLC Plans For Fight Night Round 4 (Press Release)

**** the face buttons.

[HotSauce2k3]

Re: EA Reveals First DLC Plans For Fight Night Round 4 (Press Release)

I'm actually a little worried if they tweak stamina for online. Remember that it doesn't only deplete by throwing a massive amount of punches - it also decreases when you get hit by body shots. My worry is that online might become nothing but body shots because it will tire the other guy out so fast.

I'm VERY happy to see that they're adding it as a slider though.

I already run into people who spam body shots, and they can do so without consequence because of the stamina. Tweaking the stamina will make defending it very manageable because they'll only be able to throw so many at you at a time.

[cepwin]

Excellent!! While I happen to like TPC I'm glad EA is listening to their customers on the buttons issue. While I'll probably never use them at least those who wish to will have that option. The other DLC sounds cool too...looking forward to it...it's a great game!

[toomerk]

Re: EA Reveals First DLC Plans For Fight Night Round 4 (Press Release)

Sounds no different than someone on this thread who is an advocate for TPC. Honestly, this guy sounds very ignorant, and insulting to the pros that have mastered the button controls. Just because he's an editor doesn't make his word gold. Check out what PastaPadre had to say:

"Now though I almost want to go back to the buttons. I’m finding the stick to be inconsistent and too mechanical in nature. Rarely am I able to counter and in many cases I’m having to think about the type of punch and motion involved instead of going off reaction. This is especially the case with haymakers where you’re required to hold the RB which is incredibly awkward. I pretty much have forgotten about attempting to put combinations together. Not to mention that frequently I’m making motions with the stick and no punch comes or the wrong one is thrown.
The ironic thing is that one of the main reasons for removing the buttons was due to imbalance vs the analog stick with online. What that actually means is the buttons were more effective and precise. Now you just have people online stick “mashing” basically meaning nothing has changed. A proper fatigue system could’ve balanced things regardless of the control scheme being used. However people are throwing punches like crazy and not having to pay for it. Against the wrong person online it makes for a very frustrating experience."

It's called PRACTICE

Now, don't get me wrong. Having buttons is good for giving the consumer options, but padre is way off. It is not that difficult to learn the system, and once you learn it, putting precise, smart combinations together is smooth. I suggest doing the heavy bag combo training for those that think it's too hard...

[Brian_OS]

Re: EA Reveals First DLC Plans For Fight Night Round 4 (Press Release)

It's called PRACTICE

Now, don't get me wrong. Having buttons is good for giving the consumer options, but padre is way off. It is not that difficult to learn the system, and once you learn it, putting precise, smart combinations together is smooth. I suggest doing the heavy bag combo training for those that think it's too hard...

Amen! - I'm going to have to get all my old games out and stomp my feet and see if I can get other developers to release some more patches so I can stop adapting all together. Thanks button babies! - LOL J/K

[toomerk]

Re: EA Reveals First DLC Plans For Fight Night Round 4 (Press Release)

One more quick note, and then I'm done with this. One of the best combinations I've found is to throw a straight to the body, then a left hook to the head. It's difficult to block them both (hard to see it coming), it rarely leaves you open for a counter, and does good damage. But it's HARD to pull off. You have to hold L1, press up/right, then roll the hook. Same goes for the basic combo: jab, straight, left hook: tough to pull off consistently, good damage, and you rarely get countered.

What's my point? The point is that smart combinations that won't leave you wide open but do decent damage are difficult to pull of with the stick. They take thought and skill to set up and execute. They also would be MILES easier to pull off with buttons. So for me, it's not about button mashing. It's about EA adding a level of skill to the game.

[Vast]

Re: EA Reveals First DLC Plans For Fight Night Round 4 (Press Release)

One more quick note, and then I'm done with this. One of the best combinations I've found is to throw a straight to the body, then a left hook to the head. It's difficult to block them both (hard to see it coming), it rarely leaves you open for a counter, and does good damage. But it's HARD to pull off. You have to hold L1, press up/right, then roll the hook. Same goes for the basic combo: jab, straight, left hook: tough to pull off consistently, good damage, and you rarely get countered.

What's my point? The point is that smart combinations that won't leave you wide open but do decent damage are difficult to pull of with the stick. They take thought and skill to set up and execute. They also would be MILES easier to pull off with buttons. So for me, it's not about button mashing. It's about EA adding a level of skill to the game.

[nightcreeper]

Re: New Sliders and Button Controls

wow. ok

[EtheRed]

Ok how bout Evander Holyfield? or the Klitchko Twins? give us some more boxers. (you can't have Fight Night without Holyfield? can you?)
Give us some more classic fighter, or even fill out that flyweight division so we can fight with more than just two fighters?

I'm excited for the DLC, but make it juicy.

[parker002]

Re: EA Reveals First DLC Plans For Fight Night Round 4 (Press Release)

Sounds no different than someone on this thread who is an advocate for TPC. Honestly, this guy sounds very ignorant, and insulting to the pros that have mastered the button controls. Just because he's an editor doesn't make his word gold. Check out what PastaPadre had to say:

"Now though I almost want to go back to the buttons. I’m finding the stick to be inconsistent and too mechanical in nature. Rarely am I able to counter and in many cases I’m having to think about the type of punch and motion involved instead of going off reaction. This is especially the case with haymakers where you’re required to hold the RB which is incredibly awkward. I pretty much have forgotten about attempting to put combinations together. Not to mention that frequently I’m making motions with the stick and no punch comes or the wrong one is thrown.
The ironic thing is that one of the main reasons for removing the buttons was due to imbalance vs the analog stick with online. What that actually means is the buttons were more effective and precise. Now you just have people online stick “mashing” basically meaning nothing has changed. A proper fatigue system could’ve balanced things regardless of the control scheme being used. However people are throwing punches like crazy and not having to pay for it. Against the wrong person online it makes for a very frustrating experience."

Interesting that Pastapadre mentions the haymakers. I NEVER use them. I have small hands, and holding the RB while flicking the right thumbstick just doesn't feel right.

[BlackRome]

Kind of say's it all.

I don't have a problem with the stick but I don't always throw the punch I want to.

It's not a big problem but it is an issue. Which it shouldn't be in a boxing game.

They eliminated the buttons to force consumers to to use an inferior control.

That should be a big problem. Which it was and they responded to.

These gaming companies really jerk there customers around to no end.

They should have never released the game without the buttons.