Black College Football - The Xperience: What's Behind the Name?

[pike]

Re: Black College Football - The Xperience: What's Behind the Name?

Well first I never meant at this point in history, I was talking about origins. Which is why I used HWC instead of just White colleges. I don't want to get into a civil war or the an argument on the current state of racism in America, because that's getting pretty far from the focus of the site.

Name me one school that is designated as Historically White. Would you accept the title if Ole Miss called itself a historically white school?

Of course not. You'd have all kinds of protests if Ole Miss did that. And for what it is worth, I'd call it just as wrong and unnecessary as I am doing here.

As for the guy calling NCAA "White College Football", that's sad, inaccurate, and wrong. Especially for a game with black men on the cover. And frankly, these schools bend over backwards to attract minority students. You only need to read about the Michigan case if you need proof.

[raz77]

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Name me one school that is designated as Historically White. Would you accept the title if Ole Miss called itself a historically white school?

Of course not. You'd have all kinds of protests if Ole Miss did that. And for what it is worth, I'd call it just as wrong and unnecessary as I am doing here.

As for the guy calling NCAA "White College Football", that's sad, inaccurate, and wrong. Especially for a game with black men on the cover. And frankly, these schools bend over backwards to attract minority students. You only need to read about the Michigan case if you need proof.

Why would they have needed to designate themselves historically white back then when they were the majority of colleges?

[pike]

Re: Black College Football - The Xperience: What's Behind the Name?

Why would they have needed to designate themselves historically white back then when they were the majority of colleges?

No idea what you are saying there. So basically, you can't answer my question. Fair enough.

So, if Ole Miss designates itself as 'Historically White', you are cool with that? I wouldn't be.

[michigan21]

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No idea what you are saying there. So basically, you can't answer my question. Fair enough.

So, if Ole Miss designates itself as 'Historically White', you are cool with that? I wouldn't be.

The problem is you don't want to understand what he is saying. Its just typical of some Americans who try to create controversy. Ill take your example of Ole Miss. Governor Ross Barnett stood in the ****ing doorway of your beloved Ole Miss, and denied black Mississippians admission to the college. THIS WAS 1962!!! For well over a couple of centuries most, if not all, colleges were still ALL WHITE. You have a handful of HBU that sprung up after the civil war to, brace yourself, educate black people. If the colleges were not there, the disparities would be extremely bleak today. The fact is that most colleges in history didnt have to say historically white because they were by de facto. Lastly, do yourself a favor and get a magazine from the late 60's early 70's where there is boarding school, or military school ads. Most had to put "open enrollment" because up to that point, they didnt accept blacks. HBCU served a purpose, and still do and this game just celebrates that.

[rockchisler]

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The problem is you don't want to understand what he is saying. Its just typical of some Americans who try to create controversy. Ill take your example of Ole Miss. Governor Ross Barnett stood in the ****ing doorway of your beloved Ole Miss, and denied black Mississippians admission to the college. THIS WAS 1962!!! For well over a couple of centuries most, if not all, colleges were still ALL WHITE. You have a handful of HBU that sprung up after the civil war to, brace yourself, educate black people. If the colleges were not there, the disparities would be extremely bleak today. The fact is that most colleges in history didnt have to say historically white because they were by de facto. Lastly, do yourself a favor and get a magazine from the late 60's early 70's where there is boarding school, or military school ads. Most had to put "open enrollment" because up to that point, they didnt accept blacks. HBCU served a purpose, and still do and this game just celebrates that.

Pike doesnt understand, I'm done, if he was a educated man he would listen and learn..Plus talking about not answering questions, he never said what college he went to....hmmmm

[Jukeman]

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Only if people took time to educate themself SMDH...

How the heck is "historically" outdated????

Historically black colleges....Black colleges....am I the only one who see a difference here????

[Jackdog]

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Well written article, OS. Very well written.

As far as this thread goes I can't say the same. Insults,Politics and Racial talk is a violation of the TOS and for good reason.. There are too many infractions in this thread to mention. It's really hard to believe some of you call yourself adults.

[Pared]

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Thread is being re-opened.

I suggest you guys think twice about what you're posting here before you hit the submit button. Keep it on topic.

[Rimfro]

@ pared:

I like how you tell us to think twice about posting and to make sure to keep the conversation "on topic", but what do you expect when you write an article about how the title doesn't exclude or elevate one race over the other? Your article is about the topic of race and was only posted to keep this conversation alive. So, from what I can tell, your site is getting the exact response to the article that your site intended. How about trying to keep the topic on sports by not writing articles of this nature in the first place. You knew what you were getting into when you posted this.

[Pared]

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@ pared:

I like how you tell us to think twice about posting and to make sure to keep the conversation "on topic", but what do you expect when you write an article about how the title doesn't exclude or elevate one race over the other? Your article is about the topic of race and was only posted to keep this conversation alive. So, from what I can tell, your site is getting the exact response to the article that your site intended. How about trying to keep the topic on sports by not writing articles of this nature in the first place. You knew what you were getting into when you posted this.

You know what, you have a perfectly valid point. I'm glad you posted it.

Comment on the article, the topic but don't ATTACK EACH OTHER. There's absolutely no reason for that.

Does that help?

[Whitesox]

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Guys..it isn't that hard. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Great article OS.

[TallyBoi7]

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Give me a break.

I don't think I'm the one with the closed mind here. I'm saying that, in this day and age, you don't need schools being designated as a Black College. It's unnecessary, period.

I have to disagree.

I just wished I had seen this topic earlier.

[sneezor01]

Listen. It is sad that we have to justify such well written article. Pike (not just picking on you) but I think that it would be best to speak on a situation that you have live through not just what you have heard or what you may think. I too live and grew up within 10mins from UAPB. I went to school there and my wife graduated from UAPB. what you and other may fail to realize is the term "Historical" which contributes to the fact on why the schools exist. You should know that UAPB has quite a few whites that go to their school. ( by you living so close to the school ) so you know that the institution does not segregate or promotes segregation. Also you are standing firm with your OLE MISS reference. but do you know one of the reasons why the school is holding on to it's Nickname. It is b/c they were one of the last schools to admit blacks into their schools, as well as to the civil war reference. I dont think that people should have a problem with the term HBCU when it was describing why it is what it is, especaily when you still have lies in history books saying that Columbus discovered America. How can you discover somewhere that people already lived.

[trick02]

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Pike doesnt understand, I'm done, if he was a educated man he would listen and learn..Plus talking about not answering questions, he never said what college he went to....hmmmm

LOL i love it. Some one disagrees with you on something that is very contreversial and because of this you decide he is uneducated. Way to add to the topic instead of pick a fight your a real trooper!!

[Rimfro]

I think it is great that there is a game that celebrates the impact that "historically black colleges" have had on developing young minds as well as world class atheletes, but instead of people jumping at the chance to play a much needed alternative to the EA regime of video football, the developers have only segregated what should have been their core audience. Football fans.

Instead this title exists primarily to cater to one group, which is not racist because it does not proclaim racial superiority, but it does segregate parts of an audience that are chomping at the bit for a new football experience, which is rather unfortunate because we need competition in this particular genre. If they calleded it something like "The Heritage of Black Football" or "The Historical Black College Football Experience" there would be less controversy, but the title "Black College Football" is only going to make some feel like the game is not intended for the general, football adoring, public. I hear a lot of you say it is a "niche" title, but my response is why should it be? It should be an experience ANY football fan can enjoy and by even calling it "niche" you are only saying that it is in-fact designed with one audience in mind.

I hope the game does well so we will see more competition in the football videogame market, but with the controversy and a lack of focus "on the field", I'm not banking on it.