Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

[NoDakHusker]

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Gotta say.. If Boise State and Utah are 5* then Penn State should be 6*. Course I think PSU should be 6* in the first place.

Yeah I definitely think PSU should be 6* as well.

[sportzbro]

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Syracuse is a 3*** just for the fact of what they accomplished long in the past in the days of Ernie Davis and Jim Brown.

LOL, in the 1950's

They should be a 1* or 2* program - fired coach, poor talent, consistently terrible. Haven't competed for anything meaningful in years.

Yeah I definitely think PSU should be 6* as well.

Agree, this was another one I was mulling over.

[utahman19]

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Gotta say.. If Boise State and Utah are 5* then Penn State should be 6*. Course I think PSU should be 6* in the first place.

Sure. Boise State has as many BCS wins as Penn State (1) while Utah has as many BSC wins (2) as PSU has BCS appearances. I think PSU is right where they should be, especially with all the down years they had in this decade.

[wisecav]

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Sure. Boise State has as many BCS wins as Penn State (1) while Utah has as many BSC wins (2) as PSU has BCS appearances. I think PSU is right where they should be, especially with all the down years they had in this decade.

Prestige = History
Penn State's history > Boise State's and Utah's history

That being said.. I think PSU is probably only 5* because they only have 2 National Championships.

[sportzbro]

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If they really wanted to stir up some controversy, they would have put Utah at 6*...which might have been OK imo.

[shmoeco]

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There is no way MSU should be a 3, they should be a 4 for sure.

i think boise state and utah are both to high. they wouldnt have such good records if they played in a real conference.

[iLukeisamazing]

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Wait? Is this current prestige or including past? If it includes past, these rankings are ridiculous, if it includes just maybe the last 2-3 years, then having Notre Dame as a 6* is a joke.

[Hooe]

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Open ramble, be warned.

I understand that a number of things go into how the prestige rating is determined, but I personally feel that Al Groh and Virginia recruit better and put better talent into the pros on a more consistent basis than many other 3* schools; in particular over the last three years we've had (by my count) four first-round draft picks (Ferguson, Long, Albert, Monroe) and we have had many other players have been drafted. Clearly the program's results and tradition of my Wahoos don't match up with many of the schools above them, however.

The reason this is a problem to me is that the current Prestige rating has too much of an overarching effect; it affects both recruiting and player progression and, along with on-the-field results to some extent, is the ONLY factor in determining player progression.

As such, I do think that the next logical step for Dynasty mode is a deeper prestige rating system that factors in the coach's ability to recruit, develop talent at particular position groups, get the most out of that talent on gameday. In addition, coach progression and regression in these attributes, and these coaches' various coordinators developing and going from school to school, and older coaches retiring, etc. should also be included. The current prestige ranking should remain and have some effect, but the differences between good and bad coaches, as well as coaches on the same tier with different strengths and weaknesses, needs to have an impact in the game as well.

End ramble. Flame away.

[pistonchamps04]

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i'll say this...

some ratings people at EA have it in for MSU. that's for sure. don't know why.

[sportzbro]

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@ilukeisamazing

Its a culmination of their past & present accomplishments & failures.. They have a meeting to decide the prestige ratings.. I dont think there is a formula or anything for establishing the initial ratings.

[jsquigg]

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Iowa and MSU should be 4 stars. Not seeing Maryland at 4 star though trapstar, sorry. 3 seems good for them

Really not trying to stir it up, but based on the big picture, I think a 3 is about right for MSU. UM had a horrible season last year, so don't think you can get out of a thought through response with using that as an insult, but I think it says a lot about MSU's season when they lose 4 games including a bowl, and think it's a good season. I know you finally beat Michigan, but other than that, it was kind of a mediocre year. Outside of the fact that all MSU fans will probably flame me now, I'd like to know how they think this year and the future will go for their program. As it is now, I think a 3 is about right.

[sportzbro]

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As such, I do think that the next logical step for Dynasty mode is a deeper prestige rating system that factors in the coach's ability to recruit, develop talent at particular position groups, get the most out of that talent on gameday. In addition, coach progression and regression in these attributes, and these coaches' various coordinators developing and going from school to school, and older coaches retiring, etc. should also be included. The current prestige ranking should remain and have some effect, but the differences between good and bad coaches, as well as coaches on the same tier with different strengths and weaknesses, needs to have an impact in the game as well.

End ramble. Flame away.

I think my idea for AD mode, combined with some type of point system to gain additional pretige stars would be the solution. It could work like the prestige rankings in COD or KillZone 2 kind of.

[deucepoppi17]

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Open ramble, be warned.

; in particular over the last three years we've had (by my count) four first-round draft picks (Ferguson, Long, Albert, Monroe) and we have had many other players have been drafted.
End ramble. Flame away.

HA! U just named all OL....maybe if UVA put out playmakers as first round talent then i could understand, but come on now.....

[utahman19]

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If they really wanted to stir up some controversy, they would have put Utah at 6*...which might have been OK imo.

Dude.... not even I will say Utah is a 6-star program. Of course, a down year for Utah has been 8-5, a down year for Penn State is 3-9.

I will also say I don't think Bama is a 6-star program... yet. See what Saban does in the next two years and then we can talk. Prestige is more than just history and tradition, it's also what have you done lately. I feel good saying Utah and Boise (and TCU, too) have been just as good if not better in the last decade than Penn State and several other BCS schools.

Combining the history and the here-and-now into the prestige rating is why I am fine with Utah and Boise being on equal prestige footing as Penn State, Nebraska, Tennessee, and others.

[sportzbro]

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Really not trying to stir it up, but based on the big picture, I think a 3 is about right for MSU. UM had a horrible season last year, so don't think you can get out of a thought through response with using that as an insult, but I think it says a lot about MSU's season when they lose 4 games including a bowl, and think it's a good season. I know you finally beat Michigan, but other than that, it was kind of a mediocre year. Outside of the fact that all MSU fans will probably flame me now, I'd like to know how they think this year and the future will go for their program. As it is now, I think a 3 is about right.

What is your opinion on Iowa?