*CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

[sportzbro]

EA Sports Forums have a thread like this up. It hasn't gotten much of a look over there yet, but I think some users here at OS could provide some solid CONSTRUCTIVE feedback for the people that make the game.

This is Raczilla's guidelines & we should follow them in this thread as well:

This thread is for constructive feedback about NCAA Football 10. If you've got an issue with the game and want your voice heard, post it here. This thread is not for general impressions. It's also not for folks who are having issues with something they think isn't working properly.

If you'd like to post general likes/dislikes , please do that at the following link. http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/li...1.page#2511534

If you are running into something you don't think is working properly, visit this link for help. http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/0/261184.page



This thread is more for folks who have very specific issues they'd like to talk about. For example:

"I like TeamBuilder, but what it really needs is..."



How to get the most out of this thread


Be clear about your feedback Try and provide as much detail as possible. Do you want to see more options for equipment? List the things you'd like to see added. Want to see something added to gameplay? List it out as best as you can.

Be constructive Everyone has an opinion and you're all entitled to share yours here, so make the most of it by putting together constructive thoughts. Posts that aren't constructive may be removed as we've got to give priority to people who add something of value to the thread. While we will be focused on addressing immediate issues anyone might have, the feedback in this thread will go on to the game teams for future consideration.



Naturally we'll try and keep an eye on other threads in the forum as well, but this is the official place to post if you want to make sure someone is looking at your suggestion.

Basically, nothing like: "This GAME IS GARBARGEfdkjfARRRGHGHG!L:FJOIPFHPGO Sucks blah blah blah!!!!!"

Please OS, show me you can handle yourselves.. A lot of our input is going to be seriously considered for NCAA 11. I've posted a couple of things over there already, and I'll copy them to this thread here shortly.. And remember to keep it cool. A thread like this could really benefit the game.





*If a mod thinks its too early for something like this then shut it down. I would, however, appreciate it if you re-opened in like a week.

[sportzbro]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

Here's some stuff I posted on EA..

Please fix both the running animation & address the lack of momentum/locomotion.. Players shouldn't be able to turn on a dime without leaning, or decelerating. There is no sense of weight, and it has been a major problem ever since the jump to next gen.

Also, ball physics need work. It currently feels like the football is too heavy & doesn't float properly (Its also too large & too dark for that specific model). On the PS2 & Xbox it had that sense of lightness & it actually floated like a real football would.

I believe by fixing these things, many of the gameplay complaints will go away.

______________

Next would easily be the lack of presentational elements. This is college football, & its all about atmosphere.

Team Entrances
Pre-game breakdown
Players warming up
Half-Time show
Post Game wrap up
More stat banners
Coaches interacting w/players

The works... its been to long, and I can't take another year of the empty feeling game.

Many of these things were in last gen, and added so much to the replay value of the game... much of the reason I still play 06 to this day.


______________


Dynasty mode needs to be deeper, and geared more for the hardcore guys. There is so much missing that could make this mode one of the best of any sports game.

Please add some of the following:

Spring game
Camps
Heisman & award show
High School All American game
AD Mode* (Check my sig for a link)
Neutral site games
Create rivalries
Conf. logos change when changing conferences
Senior Bowl
National Signing Day presentation
etc..


Also presentation needs stepped up in this mode. How about adding an awards show of some sort, bowl week breakdown, huge celebrations for bowl game wins, Over the top BCS Championship broadcast, Pre-season breakdown... Just some things that will keep us coming back, because currently there is very little that makes me feel connected with my team, and dynasty feels weak & hallow.

Also, please take a look at Chris' 12 Ways to Improve Dynasty article.
______________

Give us the ability to pick unis combos simultaneously if its a multiplayer game, and decrease the lag the menus seem to have.

Also, do something about the facts while the game is loading.. Many of them are the same as last year's & they really aren't interesting at all.

Maybe give us the all time series records between the teams, or even scrap it all together leaving only the team logos - or even a "match up" screen that shows what team has the advantages kind of what Madden 10 has before the pregame starts.

_____________

More songs from bands are desperately needed as well. I've heard the same ones for years & they are just becoming old now.

_____________


Lastly... I beg of you developers/designers to stop with the on going pursuit of choosing to dedicate time to secondary features & making unnecessary changes, over basic football things. I realize that you must sell copies, and bring in new customers, but its just getting old, especially when things like formation subs, refs, & even running mechanics are ignored/overlooked or deemed not important year after year... Save the stuff geared toward the younger audience for the Wii. Season Showdown, defensive assist, "link plays" that actually have percentages above them, & Road to Glory being the mode that gets the overhaul instead of Dynasty... What is going on? What is the direction of this franchise?

Take the route that Madden 10 has done this year, and give us a true college football sim experience. The people that buy Madden & enjoy that "sim" style game design are, for the most part, the same ones who are buying NCAA.

Please focus on FOOTBALL related things. After those are taken care of, then you should start to think about the other small/less important features.

The new moto for the NCAA series here on out should be "Everything You See on Saturdays"

[Mojo23]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

Why are we still asking for things that should have and could have easily been addressed this year? I'm trying to remain as "constructive" as possible but this umm..."situation" EA has set up is getting ridiculous...

"Oh, lets take the time to list things we want for next years game"

*next years arrives*

"Darn, just more of the same. The players interact identically as last year, it seems EA just tossed in a few new animations. How sweet of them, they must love us. Plus now we got Erin Andrews and neato graphics on the field goal nets"

I'm not even going to get any more in depth since I'd most likely lose my "constructiveness" but I'm simply disappointed.

I'm still very optimistic for Madden 10 though...

[jsquigg]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

Here's some stuff I posted on EA..

Please fix both the running animation & address the lack of momentum/locomotion.. Players shouldn't be able to turn on a dime without leaning, or decelerating. There is no sense of weight, and it has been a major problem ever since the jump to next gen.

Also, ball physics need work. It currently feels like the football is too heavy & doesn't float properly (Its also too large & too dark for that specific model). On the PS2 & Xbox it had that sense of lightness & it actually floated like a real football would.

I believe by fixing these things, many of the gameplay complaints will go away.

______________

Next would easily be the lack of presentational elements. This is college football, & its all about atmosphere.

Team Entrances
Pre-game breakdown
Players warming up
Half-Time show
Post Game wrap up
More stat banners
Coaches interacting w/players

The works... its been to long, and I can't take another year of the empty feeling game.

Many of these things were in last gen, and added so much to the replay value of the game... much of the reason I still play 06 to this day.


______________


Dynasty mode needs to be deeper, and geared more for the hardcore guys. There is so much missing that could make this mode one of the best of any sports game.

Please add some of the following:

Spring game
Camps
Heisman & award show
High School All American game
AD Mode*
Neutral site games
Create rivalries
Conf. logos change when changing conferences
Senior Bowl
National Signing Day presentation
etc..


Also presentation needs stepped up in this mode. How about adding an awards show of some sort, bowl week breakdown, huge celebrations for bowl game wins, Over the top BCS Championship broadcast, Pre-season breakdown... Just some things that will keep us coming back, because currently there is very little that makes me feel connected with my team, and dynasty feels weak & hallow.

Also, please take a look at Chris' 12 Ways to Improve Dynasty article.
______________

Give us the ability to pick unis combos simultaneously if its a multiplayer game, and decrease the lag the menus seem to have.

Also, do something about the facts while the game is loading.. Many of them are the same as last year's & they really aren't interesting at all.

Maybe give us the all time series records between the teams, or even scrap it all together leaving only the team logos - or even a "match up" screen that shows what team has the advantages kind of what Madden 10 has before the pregame starts.

_____________

More songs from bands are desperately needed as well. I've heard the same ones for years & they are just becoming old now.

_____________


Lastly... I beg of you developers/designers to stop with the on going pursuit of choosing to dedicate time to secondary features & making unnecessary changes, over basic football things. I realize that you must sell copies, and bring in new customers, but its just getting old, especially when things like formation subs, refs, & even running mechanics are ignored/overlooked or deemed not important year after year... Save the stuff geared toward the younger audience for the Wii. Season Showdown, defensive assist, "link plays" that actually have percentages above them, & Road to Glory being the mode that gets the overhaul instead of Dynasty... What is going on? What is the direction of this franchise?

Take the route that Madden 10 has done this year, and give us a true college football sim experience. The people that buy Madden & enjoy that "sim" style game design are, for the most part, the same ones who are buying NCAA.

Please focus on FOOTBALL related things. After those are taken care of, then you should start to think about the other small/less important features.

The new moto for the NCAA series here on out should be "Everything You See on Saturdays"

Bump. Great post btw.

[hollywood21]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

As I've been playing this game for 8+ hours online and off Im actually surprised at how well and fun the passing game is.

Two noticable problems with the passing game though:

1. The speed of a bullet pass is unrealistic. It shoots out like a cannon.
2. The QB's are still to accurate. Yes they added bad thrown balls in this game but not enough. To many situations where a QB throws a perfect ball while rolling to a side on the run or throwing off the back foot.

LB's are not playing there assignment correctly either. I don't understand how the ncaa team drop the ball on this one for exp:
1. An LB's first step is forward to check if there is a run yet my LB's are moving sideways intead of running to point of attack allowing easy yardage.

Locomotion!!! This is probably the biggest issue in the game. The player movement drives me crazy! How players cut/turn/strafe at high speeds messes up the game for me.

I noticed no 1 likes the blocking nor running in these threads so I'll skipped over that. There's a lot more issues with this game but what's the point of naming them if this is the direction the ncaa team wants to go = Casual gamer

Now I thought I would note some positives for ncaa 10. I think they really improved in some ares of gameplay.

1. WR/DB play is as fun as ever! Over the shoulder catches/1 hand catches/fade routes work/overall route running/MAN COVERAGE WORKS!/while the ball is in the air collisions are damn good.
2. No longer are you the only player on your team hit sticking! Yes the cpu will help you.
3. Movement at the line of scrimmage finally! (Even if the moving in the wrong direction lol)
4. Tipped passes and hit while throwing on spot on.
5. Ice the kicker seems more effective this year.

It may not seem like much but its somethin.

[hollywood21]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

Here's some stuff I posted on EA..

Please fix both the running animation & address the lack of momentum/locomotion.. Players shouldn't be able to turn on a dime without leaning, or decelerating. There is no sense of weight, and it has been a major problem ever since the jump to next gen.

Also, ball physics need work. It currently feels like the football is too heavy & doesn't float properly (Its also too large & too dark for that specific model). On the PS2 & Xbox it had that sense of lightness & it actually floated like a real football would.

I believe by fixing these things, many of the gameplay complaints will go away.

______________

Next would easily be the lack of presentational elements. This is college football, & its all about atmosphere.

Team Entrances
Pre-game breakdown
Players warming up
Half-Time show
Post Game wrap up
More stat banners
Coaches interacting w/players

The works... its been to long, and I can't take another year of the empty feeling game.

Many of these things were in last gen, and added so much to the replay value of the game... much of the reason I still play 06 to this day.


______________


Dynasty mode needs to be deeper, and geared more for the hardcore guys. There is so much missing that could make this mode one of the best of any sports game.

Please add some of the following:

Spring game
Camps
Heisman & award show
High School All American game
AD Mode* (Check my sig for a link)
Neutral site games
Create rivalries
Conf. logos change when changing conferences
Senior Bowl
National Signing Day presentation
etc..


Also presentation needs stepped up in this mode. How about adding an awards show of some sort, bowl week breakdown, huge celebrations for bowl game wins, Over the top BCS Championship broadcast, Pre-season breakdown... Just some things that will keep us coming back, because currently there is very little that makes me feel connected with my team, and dynasty feels weak & hallow.

Also, please take a look at Chris' 12 Ways to Improve Dynasty article.
______________

Give us the ability to pick unis combos simultaneously if its a multiplayer game, and decrease the lag the menus seem to have.

Also, do something about the facts while the game is loading.. Many of them are the same as last year's & they really aren't interesting at all.

Maybe give us the all time series records between the teams, or even scrap it all together leaving only the team logos - or even a "match up" screen that shows what team has the advantages kind of what Madden 10 has before the pregame starts.

_____________

More songs from bands are desperately needed as well. I've heard the same ones for years & they are just becoming old now.

_____________


Lastly... I beg of you developers/designers to stop with the on going pursuit of choosing to dedicate time to secondary features & making unnecessary changes, over basic football things. I realize that you must sell copies, and bring in new customers, but its just getting old, especially when things like formation subs, refs, & even running mechanics are ignored/overlooked or deemed not important year after year... Save the stuff geared toward the younger audience for the Wii. Season Showdown, defensive assist, "link plays" that actually have percentages above them, & Road to Glory being the mode that gets the overhaul instead of Dynasty... What is going on? What is the direction of this franchise?

Take the route that Madden 10 has done this year, and give us a true college football sim experience. The people that buy Madden & enjoy that "sim" style game design are, for the most part, the same ones who are buying NCAA.

Please focus on FOOTBALL related things. After those are taken care of, then you should start to think about the other small/less important features.

The new moto for the NCAA series here on out should be "Everything You See on Saturdays"

This is spilling your guts out. I agree with everything you mentioned. The NCAA team should put your statements on there bulletin board for 11 seriously.

[davidmj444]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

Waaaaaaaay too many upsets in dynasty that just shouldn't happen.

[Hipster-Doofus]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

I've noticed a couple things, most of them already mentioned previously so I won't mention again.

1. Option Pitches sometimes are a little unrealistic. There have been a few times where the CUP has completely wrapped up my QB, and somehow my QB (with arms to his side) is still able to get the pitch off.

2. Presentation/Atmosphere needs to be next years focus. I think over all the gameplay has improved, however what makes college football the best sport in the world is the atmosphere.


All my other issues and exploits have already been mention a lot. I realize atmosphere and presentation have but thast my main issue so.

the game, at least for me, seems to be playing pretty nicely so far (other then custom stadium sounds causing me to freeze "in game")

[NEWYORICAN]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

Why are we still asking for things that should have and could have easily been addressed this year? I'm trying to remain as "constructive" as possible but this umm..."situation" EA has set up is getting ridiculous...

"Oh, lets take the time to list things we want for next years game"

*next years arrives*

"Darn, just more of the same. The players interact identically as last year, it seems EA just tossed in a few new animations. How sweet of them, they must love us. Plus now we got Erin Andrews and neato graphics on the field goal nets"

I'm not even going to get any more in depth since I'd most likely lose my "constructiveness" but I'm simply disappointed.

I'm still very optimistic for Madden 10 though...

I agree!, it's getting tiring to say the least..


peace
Ernesto

[Rivals]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

Player editing took a step back this year. The roster issue didn't get resolved quite the way a lot of us were hoping it would. With more time, the accuracy of the rosters didn't improve much. But in addition to that, we have white sleeves appearing as gray and we lost a skin tone to boot. Well, more accurately stated, the dark skin tones don't have the three distinct options last year's game had. What puzzles me is why you would use generic headshots and then reduce skin tone options? Seeing that likeness can't be generated in NCAA the way it can be in Madden, it makes no sense to attempt to identify players by face. Equipment and body features are really where the focus should be. Takes away from that immersible aspect of the game many of us look for.

[clayshime]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

Here's some stuff I posted on EA..

Please fix both the running animation & address the lack of momentum/locomotion.. Players shouldn't be able to turn on a dime without leaning, or decelerating. There is no sense of weight, and it has been a major problem ever since the jump to next gen.

Also, ball physics need work. It currently feels like the football is too heavy & doesn't float properly (Its also too large & too dark for that specific model). On the PS2 & Xbox it had that sense of lightness & it actually floated like a real football would.

I believe by fixing these things, many of the gameplay complaints will go away.

______________

Next would easily be the lack of presentational elements. This is college football, & its all about atmosphere.

Team Entrances
Pre-game breakdown
Players warming up
Half-Time show
Post Game wrap up
More stat banners
Coaches interacting w/players

The works... its been to long, and I can't take another year of the empty feeling game.

Many of these things were in last gen, and added so much to the replay value of the game... much of the reason I still play 06 to this day.


______________


Dynasty mode needs to be deeper, and geared more for the hardcore guys. There is so much missing that could make this mode one of the best of any sports game.

Please add some of the following:

Spring game
Camps
Heisman & award show
High School All American game
AD Mode* (Check my sig for a link)
Neutral site games
Create rivalries
Conf. logos change when changing conferences
Senior Bowl
National Signing Day presentation
etc..


Also presentation needs stepped up in this mode. How about adding an awards show of some sort, bowl week breakdown, huge celebrations for bowl game wins, Over the top BCS Championship broadcast, Pre-season breakdown... Just some things that will keep us coming back, because currently there is very little that makes me feel connected with my team, and dynasty feels weak & hallow.

Also, please take a look at Chris' 12 Ways to Improve Dynasty article.
______________

Give us the ability to pick unis combos simultaneously if its a multiplayer game, and decrease the lag the menus seem to have.

Also, do something about the facts while the game is loading.. Many of them are the same as last year's & they really aren't interesting at all.

Maybe give us the all time series records between the teams, or even scrap it all together leaving only the team logos - or even a "match up" screen that shows what team has the advantages kind of what Madden 10 has before the pregame starts.

_____________

More songs from bands are desperately needed as well. I've heard the same ones for years & they are just becoming old now.

_____________


Lastly... I beg of you developers/designers to stop with the on going pursuit of choosing to dedicate time to secondary features & making unnecessary changes, over basic football things. I realize that you must sell copies, and bring in new customers, but its just getting old, especially when things like formation subs, refs, & even running mechanics are ignored/overlooked or deemed not important year after year... Save the stuff geared toward the younger audience for the Wii. Season Showdown, defensive assist, "link plays" that actually have percentages above them, & Road to Glory being the mode that gets the overhaul instead of Dynasty... What is going on? What is the direction of this franchise?

Take the route that Madden 10 has done this year, and give us a true college football sim experience. The people that buy Madden & enjoy that "sim" style game design are, for the most part, the same ones who are buying NCAA.

Please focus on FOOTBALL related things. After those are taken care of, then you should start to think about the other small/less important features.

The new moto for the NCAA series here on out should be "Everything You See on Saturdays"

I couldn't agree more. Great post, I really hope somebody from EA read this and takes a copy into a meeting about NCAA 11.

[sportzbro]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

Here's from a different thread I posted in..



I say they keep the bands (for teams that actually have them), but put them at half time in the background while they play their music.. Then over that, have the HALFTIME show playing.


Pregame should be reserved for:

Team Entrances
Pregrame show with the announcers
Players warming up
Star breakdown
Predictions

The works





Also, some research needs to be done about what teams actually have field goal nets.. Maybe even sign Allstate as a sponsor to get the logo on the nets.. NCAA 11 has to be about realism.

[sportzbro]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

Forgot to mention this, but someone else said it in a different thread.

there needs to be some celebration after the wins... crowd meeting in the middle or something.

I loved seeing this after I won or lost games.. It was minor, but it added so much.

[KingVMSU]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

BORN I love ya but they dont listen.

Just give me a realistic pass rush and I'd settle.

Carry on...

[realultimatepower]

Re: *CONSTRUCTIVE Feedback for NCAA 10*

Its actually surprising how little the NCAA team seem to care about presentation. I hope next year they take their cue from this year's Madden and really focus on the presentation aspect of the game.

I would especially like to see a few things in regards to the presentation aspect:
- Pregame things as already mentioned.
- Time to bring the commentary team back in and redo it, or at the very least, add a lot more. I'd also like them to look into breaking the team into 2. A 3 man booth in college is very rare these days. I think Musberger and Herbstreit would be great. I would not be unhappy to see Nessler, Herby, and Corso "retired", or at the very least, "refreshed".
- Championship presentation. EVERY EA Sports title seems to give you something for going through the game and at least providing a cutscene or something similar at the end of a championship game, oh no, but not NCAA.

I really like the presentation aspect of Road to Glory and hope that's expanded on next year, perhaps with more "callers" to the show, maybe some stat comparisons with other "characters" in the same position/class as your player, but one nagging thing is that Erin wears the same outfit every "episode"! I completely understand that she probably came into the studio and cut it all in one day, but really, a wardrobe change here and there would add to the realism.

I think gameplay is much improved this year and I am enjoying it, but the omissions and what "could've been" is really grating. Why is it that NCAA is the one EA Sports game that is more likely to regress than progress?