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  • cowboy_kmoney
    MVP
    • Jun 2008
    • 1621

    #16
    Logic Docter your so right if this along with better injuries was put into the game will stay playing this game..

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    • fistofrage
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 13682

      #17
      Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

      Originally posted by MMChrisS
      Truly great sports games often transcend the sport they're based on, finding a way to appeal to a broad group of gamers. Games like NHL 94, Winning Eleven 6 and the original NBA Jam fall into this category. Even if you weren't a fan of the sports themselves, those games still probably appealed to you when you played them because the final products were greater than the sum of their parts.

      NCAA Football 10 falls short of that transcendent status. As a longtime Madden player who has made sporadic forays into the NCAA series, I went into NCAA 10 looking to see if the game would grab me and make a fan of me. It did not.

      -Feature written by Jim Harris

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      Once again solid writing. Does your score still remain an 8? Its a college game that doesn't really feel like college football? Its like Donkey Kong without the Donkey. I mean Monkey.
      Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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      • bigsmallwood
        MVP
        • Aug 2008
        • 1474

        #18
        Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

        Originally posted by Logic Doctor
        I feel like all of EA's games are lacking in the presentation department and when we call them out and say "the presentation is lacking" EA responds with flashy menus, hyping up Erin Andrews and implementing college bands for the first minute and a half of the game.

        Presentation goes much deeper as it is something you experience constantly throughout a game, whether it is during a game, after a game, while I’m in my dynasty screen, wherever part of the game you are in. Presentation is essentially a meter for one to measure a games longevity.

        Here's are some presentation ideas.

        -I agree that the dynasty should be run through a coach’s perspective similar to College Hoops 2K8

        -There has to be more stat overlays during the game. NCAA football 10 has the ability to record all kinds of crazy stats. Stop making us dig up these statistics through menus and display them mostly during games.

        - (This is the most frustrating thing of all) Pleeeeeeease use ESPN integration properly. Having access and the ability to use ESPN in your games should be a no brainer when it comes to how you want to use them.

        Most people relate to all sports by watching them on TV, specifically ESPN, so why is there a lack of ESPN staples? Here are some ESPN Ideas…

        -Weekly top ten plays with videos broken down by ESPN commentators

        -Actual ESPN college football writers writing columns throughout the season about events occurring throughout your dynasty

        -I should be able to go to sportscenter in my dynasty and view highlights of that weeks games

        -After a big upset victory my coach should be invited to ESPN for a phone interview on FIRST TAKE (it’s an early morning ESPN show) or something to that equivalent.

        -During the Bowl Championships Jim Rome should do his "Here's what I'm burning on segment" on the Bowl matchups and the superstar players that are involved.

        In my opinion, its little things like this that give a game life and longevity. Playing from a coaches perspective in your dynasty and having ESPN integrated properly would make the game so much more enjoyable on so many different levels.
        This is what I am talking about!!!
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        • Hipster-Doofus
          Rookie
          • Jun 2009
          • 231

          #19
          Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

          Originally posted by fistofrage
          Once again solid writing. Does your score still remain an 8? Its a college game that doesn't really feel like college football? Its like Donkey Kong without the Donkey. I mean Monkey.

          It's like Super Mario Brothers with a German named Von Buren
          I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important -like a league game or something.
          - Dick Butkus

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          • rudyjuly2
            Cade Cunningham
            • Aug 2002
            • 14814

            #20
            Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

            Originally posted by fistofrage
            Once again solid writing. Does your score still remain an 8? Its a college game that doesn't really feel like college football? Its like Donkey Kong without the Donkey. I mean Monkey.
            Different writer. Jim wrote this review and never attached a score. Chris just posted the article.

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            • noplace
              MVP
              • Jul 2004
              • 2116

              #21
              Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

              This game could have been so much better if EA werent so lazy. Taking Madden 09 engine & making it college was evident when the demo game out. There are some improvements but its still a rental at this time for me. I just wish EA had some other company pushing them to do whats right and put the customer 1st.
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              • fistofrage
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 13682

                #22
                Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

                Originally posted by noplace
                This game could have been so much better if EA werent so lazy. Taking Madden 09 engine & making it college was evident when the demo game out. There are some improvements but its still a rental at this time for me. I just wish EA had some other company pushing them to do whats right and put the customer 1st.
                There won't be another company pushing them with a College Football game for quite some time. However, there are plenty of other places to spend your entertainment $. Those are the real competitiors. I would say there are probably only a 10 or 20 thousand people out there that are completely "addicted" to NCAA football and will buy it no matter what. A majority of their sales will come from people who just want to be entertained and would be willing to play a different genre and foredo NCAA football if it was more entertaining.

                I am almost positive that a casual fan of NCAA football sees little to no difference between the games and could easily go a few years inbetween NCAA purchases.
                Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                • KG
                  Welcome Back
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 17583

                  #23
                  Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

                  Originally posted by fistofrage
                  There won't be another company pushing them with a College Football game for quite some time. However, there are plenty of other places to spend your entertainment $. Those are the real competitiors. I would say there are probably only a 10 or 20 thousand people out there that are completely "addicted" to NCAA football and will buy it no matter what. A majority of their sales will come from people who just want to be entertained and would be willing to play a different genre and foredo NCAA football if it was more entertaining.

                  I am almost positive that a casual fan of NCAA football sees little to no difference between the games and could easily go a few years inbetween NCAA purchases.
                  I think a lot of people buy it because they release it so early. EA would never kill their own product but imagine if this & Madden dropped on the same day.
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                  • Dice
                    Sitting by the door
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 6627

                    #24
                    Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

                    WOW! An objective review of a game where he didn't like the game but didn't said that it was garbage and didn't bash EA.
                    I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                    • noplace
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 2116

                      #25
                      Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

                      Originally posted by Dice
                      WOW! An objective review of a game where he didn't like the game but didn't said that it was garbage and didn't bash EA.
                      And didnt hurt anyones feelings..
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                      Nebraska Cornhuskers
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                      • fistofrage
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 13682

                        #26
                        Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

                        Originally posted by kgx2thez
                        I think a lot of people buy it because they release it so early. EA would never kill their own product but imagine if this & Madden dropped on the same day.
                        Exactly, that is what NCAA has become. A stop gap. Very dry and boring, but it comes out first. I bet 30%+ of NCAA sales are just people wanting a new football fix only to abanden the game 4 weeks later when Madden comes out. Its a nice little cash cow. They charge the same price for a game that costs a fraction of what Madden costs. It would be like Nike releasing a pair of Air Jordan Juniors a month before the Air Jordans came out that would unravel and become unwearable just in time for the Air Jordan release.

                        It seems like the NCAA team used to say, "so we have a lesser budget, lets show the world what we can do with it." Now granted there were probably some things that were always off limits which EA wanted to introduce with Madden first. But NCAA always felt fresher on last Gen. It was the better game. I stopped buying Madden in 2004 and haven't bought it since. But for the last 2 or 3 years, I have been longing to play a decent football game again and its just not happening.
                        Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                        • Ruffy
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1516

                          #27
                          Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

                          Originally posted by noplace
                          And didnt hurt anyones feelings..
                          I'm crying on the inside and smiling on the outside.....

                          Nice read.
                          Former Bison, Argonaut, TSN and Sportsnet employee.
                          Gaming since the days of the NES, Atari and Intellivision.
                          Lifelong Hartford Whaler fan.

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                          • carnalnirvana
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1981

                            #28
                            Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

                            i read mm chris's review. thought it was off but its his editorial so thats ok. My question is what do people expect from video games as of 2009.

                            i keep seeing people talk about presentation, what is good presentation?

                            every review i have read about this game NOWHERE does it mention that the cpu plays football... on third and long they try to get the first down aggressively..... NOWHERE .....

                            now i admit different people like this game for different reasons but PRESENTATION is so subjective what can they really do, for example i want a tailgating mini game, he wants marching bands, my brother wants corso predictions, my cousin wants highlights of impact players, now from this list on any given year someone is going to be upset c'mon....

                            gameplay is something we can all agree on they need to get that right and this game plays really well if you are not a cheeser online or off.

                            does it have glitches, which game does not...
                            NOW PLAYING: NBA Live, madden 11,12, battlefield v, F1 2020 and injustice 2 and COD:MW

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                            • Cj7298419
                              Pro
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 983

                              #29
                              Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

                              Originally posted by Logic Doctor
                              I feel like all of EA's games are lacking in the presentation department and when we call them out and say "the presentation is lacking" EA responds with flashy menus, hyping up Erin Andrews and implementing college bands for the first minute and a half of the game.

                              Presentation goes much deeper as it is something you experience constantly throughout a game, whether it is during a game, after a game, while I’m in my dynasty screen, wherever part of the game you are in. Presentation is essentially a meter for one to measure a games longevity.

                              Here's are some presentation ideas.

                              -I agree that the dynasty should be run through a coach’s perspective similar to College Hoops 2K8

                              -There has to be more stat overlays during the game. NCAA football 10 has the ability to record all kinds of crazy stats. Stop making us dig up these statistics through menus and display them mostly during games.

                              - (This is the most frustrating thing of all) Pleeeeeeease use ESPN integration properly. Having access and the ability to use ESPN in your games should be a no brainer when it comes to how you want to use them.

                              Most people relate to all sports by watching them on TV, specifically ESPN, so why is there a lack of ESPN staples? Here are some ESPN Ideas…

                              -Weekly top ten plays with videos broken down by ESPN commentators

                              -Actual ESPN college football writers writing columns throughout the season about events occurring throughout your dynasty

                              -I should be able to go to sportscenter in my dynasty and view highlights of that weeks games

                              -After a big upset victory my coach should be invited to ESPN for a phone interview on FIRST TAKE (it’s an early morning ESPN show) or something to that equivalent.

                              -During the Bowl Championships Jim Rome should do his "Here's what I'm burning on segment" on the Bowl matchups and the superstar players that are involved.

                              In my opinion, its little things like this that give a game life and longevity. Playing from a coaches perspective in your dynasty and having ESPN integrated properly would make the game so much more enjoyable on so many different levels.
                              Wow, very good post Logic. The people at EA would probably laugh at these ideas and say "Lol, they really want all of that?! In your dreams!"
                              Huge Fan of the New Orleans Saints & New Orleans Pelicans!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                              • fistofrage
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 13682

                                #30
                                Re: NCAA Football 10: An Alternate Take

                                Originally posted by carnalnirvava
                                i read mm chris's review. thought it was off but its his editorial so thats ok. My question is what do people expect from video games as of 2009.

                                i keep seeing people talk about presentation, what is good presentation?

                                every review i have read about this game NOWHERE does it mention that the cpu plays football... on third and long they try to get the first down aggressively..... NOWHERE .....

                                now i admit different people like this game for different reasons but PRESENTATION is so subjective what can they really do, for example i want a tailgating mini game, he wants marching bands, my brother wants corso predictions, my cousin wants highlights of impact players, now from this list on any given year someone is going to be upset c'mon....

                                gameplay is something we can all agree on they need to get that right and this game plays really well if you are not a cheeser online or off.

                                does it have glitches, which game does not...
                                The issue is that the game played fine 4 to 6 years ago on the last gen with better presentation.

                                We should have all the stuff you listed as presentation. We used to have Corso predictions, Impact players warming up, chain gangs, coaches, captains heading to mid field, teams coming out of their tunnels, etc.

                                Field goals are automatic from 55 yards in. Thats not a good game of football. There are a million warts popping up in the dynasty progression and ease of recruiting. The game was shipped with broken sliders, etc.

                                All we want is take everything that worked right in the past, give us next gen graphics, and a dynasty and stat engine that progresses realistically. No one here is asking them for a ground breaking new game. We just want a new coat of paint on what used to work just fine.
                                Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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