Madden NFL 10 Video: Franchise Hub & Extra Point Show (IGN)

[Deegeezy]

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My thoughts exactly. Do it right or don't do it at all. It seems like it's one step forward, two steps back. I guess we're supposed to be happy that the effort was made. That's not good enough for me.

Statements like this are absolutely ridiculous. I think 99% of us would much rather this than nothing at all.

We are so spoiled these days.

[boooey]

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can't believe people are still whining and complaining about how much better this should be.

guys, this is a new dev team. you can't expect them to have everything in presentation down to a T when there's so much else they had to fix and clean up and improve upon. it's not their fault that the last couple of years of next-gen maddens failed to compete on 2k5's level.

yea, i hear ya.. but as consumers, its not our problem what happens behind the scenes.

You are acting like Tiburon is a new developer just taking over the game for the first time.. This is not the case.
Most of the DEV team is the same as previous years, just with new leads, but who were also part of previous DEV teams.

Man i am so tired of everyone making up any excuse they can to defend EA.
This is just as annoying to me as what you say is complaining and bashing.

Like I said, its better than last year, but it still feels like a Half done effort, and I am just tired of that with Madden.

At least 2k nailed presentation, and animation.
What has Madden nailed to perfection?

[RGiles36]

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Statements like this are absolutely ridiculous. I think 99% of us would much rather this than nothing at all.

We are so spoiled these days.

Agreed 100%

[greenegt]

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Great job on presentation! This is a banner year for EA football!

[johnprestonevans]

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I'm this biggest Presentation Whore there is. Post game shows, highlights and broadcast cams have been at the top of my wishlist for years. Sure the Extra Point is not perfect yet, but this is a HUGE leap in the right direction. H-U-G-E! I dont think this was a "half-assed" effort from EA. Madden has been a sinking ship with countless holes to fill since 06. The series sailed to sea with a hull that looked like a cheese-grater for the "next-gen" 360 launch. Im not defending EA and I will admit there is room for improvement, but lets be happy with what do finally do have - a substantial upgrade to presentation & immersion (finally).

[harnalien]

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Statements like this are absolutely ridiculous. I think 99% of us would much rather this than nothing at all.

We are so spoiled these days.

I guess by saying we are so spoiled you are saying I am spoiled since you are satisfied with this. As I said, there have been countless statements of "at least we have this." It just gets old. From what was shown of the halftime, I would skip it because it is the same stats given as while the game is playing. The highlights don't have any substance. I feel just like you just in the opposite way. I feel 99% would rather have more but are OK with accepting what is given.

[boooey]

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you know.. if I would have never played any of the 2K games, I would think that this halftime show was great.

Unfortunately 2K set the bar years ago, and even with 2K out of the way, EA refused to even look at that game knowing that was what the customers really wanted.
Was it the arrogance of the EA DEVS that they totally ignore this game? lack of talent? I do not know.

But what I do know is that it is really hard to feel so grateful to EA because they finally implemented a halftime show that is only half as good as a 5 year old game.

Go ahead and label me as one of those that will never be pleased .. thats fine

I have my expectations, you have yours.

[harnalien]

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you know.. if I would have never played any of the 2K games, I would think that this halftime show was great.

Unfortunately 2K set the bar years ago, and even with 2K out of the way, EA refused to even look at that game knowing that was what the customers really wanted.
Was it the arrogance of the EA DEVS that they totally ignore this game? lack of talent? I do not know.

But what I do know is that it is really hard to feel so grateful to EA because they finally implemented a halftime show that is only half as good as a 5 year old game.

Go ahead and label me as one of those that will never be pleased .. thats fine

I have my expectations, you have yours.

I'm with you. I'm on the side of "it's about time" vs. "at least we have it." Thread will probably be locked soon.

[Drocks]

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I think some people just don't get it. This show is about the possibilities. I'm pretty sure Ian's already said himself, this is a building block, not all it's gonna be forever. I've seen a couple "Do it right or don't do it at all" comments. So tell me, what exactly is "right"? Having some fake, canned highlights because 2K does? Cause that's about the only thing I see that could make it any better than it is. Sounds like more than just a half effort to me. They've set the foundation now, and it's already in great shape. I just can't get on board with "Do it right or don't do it at all", that's just flawed reasoning when it comes to this feature IMO.

One thing I'd say is when they show the halftime scores, maybe Alex actually go through some of the big ones, but other than that, I can't really argue with how this thing was implemented. I'm pretty impressed, cause it ain't easy to just flip the script on what has been done and create something brand new like that.

[Deegeezy]

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What's so great about 2Kk's post game show compared to this one? The only thing I see done differently is 2k had highlights. However, they were fake highlights. This day and age, I probably wouldn't watch them knowing that they are fake, canned highlights that didn't really take place. I am glad Madden didn't go that route.

[nosaints26]

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What's so great about 2Kk's post game show compared to this one? The only thing I see done differently is 2k had highlights. However, they were fake highlights. This day and age, I probably wouldn't watch them knowing that they are fake, canned highlights that didn't really take place. I am glad Madden didn't go that route.

Wow...This isn't real life here...they'd have to really alter the sim engine to record parts of actual CPU gameplay and relay them. They have to be canned. And yet 2K still maintained an organic feel. I also love how this is implemented in CH2K8 (although I think it's a lot more rough around the edges).

As stated before, the highlights were always relevant to what actually happened in a CPU sim. If there wasn't an interception or a punt return for a TD in the game you wouldn't see one in the highlight.

[HealyMonster]

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What's so great about 2Kk's post game show compared to this one? The only thing I see done differently is 2k had highlights. However, they were fake highlights. This day and age, I probably wouldn't watch them knowing that they are fake, canned highlights that didn't really take place. I am glad Madden didn't go that route.

whats all this talk of 2k having fake highlights? when I played a game, the halftime highlights actually happened in my game, they werent canned. If i ran in circles for a minute then ran in a TD, thats what they showed.

[countryboy]

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yea, i hear ya.. but as consumers, its not our problem what happens behind the scenes.

You are acting like Tiburon is a new developer just taking over the game for the first time.. This is not the case.
Most of the DEV team is the same as previous years, just with new leads, but who were also part of previous DEV teams.

Man i am so tired of everyone making up any excuse they can to defend EA.
This is just as annoying to me as what you say is complaining and bashing.

Like I said, its better than last year, but it still feels like a Half done effort, and I am just tired of that with Madden.

At least 2k nailed presentation, and animation.
What has Madden nailed to perfection?

You have to start somewhere don't you? And we were told when it was first introduced that highlights from other games weren't going to be part of the package.

Nobody is defending EA here, just understanding that you have to start somewhere. No it doesn't have all the things that we may want, but its not horrible either. In my opinion, its great first step and more in-depth then I expected it to be.

And no, this isn't perfect, but its better than nothing. And I, and probably 95% of this community would rather have this than nothing at all.

Now you can label me as easy to please. And before you ask, I have played 2k5 and seen its presentation.

[countryboy]

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whats all this talk of 2k having fake highlights? when I played a game, the halftime highlights actually happened in my game, they werent canned. If i ran in circles for a minute then ran in a TD, thats what they showed.

they're talking about highlights from other games.

[LAKE4742]

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You can add me to the "do it right or don't do it at all" camp. I understand Ian doesn't want to carbon copy 2K5, but this is the NFL! 2K5 did so many things right, but more importantly accurate, so just swallow your pride and get it all in there!

I do think it's a little sad that we (regular folk) can instantly point out the lack of enthusiasm of the commentators, or lack of highlights. It's just something else to add to EA's reputation of things that don't make sense, and probaly have no good reason for being absent-except laziness. This is supposed to be a sim, not Ian's little pet project. These kinds of flaws are no better than what David Ortiz was doing.

Just give us a damn NFL sim! Yes, this game seems to be headed in a very good direction, but still, the same ol' laziness is evident.
If it's not laziness, then it's simply lack of skill. No excuses, now or ever. Get it together, EA.