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  • JerseySuave4
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 5152

    #1441
    Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

    Originally posted by mems1224
    and the CPU QB is still untouchable and makes perfect passes

    if anything they made the playcalling worse. NCAA had a perfect setup this year, they should have just used that. wouldn't have been that hard
    i disagree about the cpu being untouchable, i was able to get good pass rush on Warner and the Cards got good rush on me. When they rushed 3 i obviously had more time but the cpu is good at getting the ball off quicker when they get rushed just like a good qb would do in real life. I also threw some bad passes, especially on the run when getting rushed or when i got hit.

    I do agree about the playcalling screen, i dont like the 3 plays on the screen and pick it by pressing a different button. I prefer NCAA's playcalling screen. And i dont like that the accelerated clock was on the demo because it doesnt give you a lot of time presnap to make adjustments.

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    • mems1224
      Rookie
      • Aug 2008
      • 461

      #1442
      Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

      Originally posted by LAKE4742
      I agree to an extent. Core Madden flaws such as suction blocking, bad DB coverage, or weird animations certainly aren't small gripes. Yep, those flaws are in this demo, and probaly in the game. But, IMO, there are improvements in those areas. Plus, there's alot of new stuff that impresses me. And, some of the things I'm seeing complaints about don't seem to happen that often. Now, complaining about cutscenes, warning beeps, and a player wrapping a player up instead of hitting him is a little overboard. As with any game, the devs may not get it done exactly the way everyone likes, but in this case, at least there's alot more in the game now, and done moderately well. But, I too am kinda shocked at some of these comments. I'm certainly not the most technical guy here, but this game seems to play a smooth, fun, sim game of football, finally. IMO, of course. They even got even got the toe drags, and hitting out of bounds right. I mean, c'mon. Not only did they get them right, but, everything happens so smoothly, and looks great (realistic)!



      The QB makes perfect passes? What?! Personally, I've seen the QB throw as many misses as completions. I don't see any evidence of Robo QB. NONE. But, I understand knee-jerk reactions can be wrong. I believed in Madden 09...08..07, and 06. But, that was before I was really educated on the real problems. I had much less Madden knowledge before finding Apex, Moody, and others here. I'm using my eagle eye alot more these days. I appreciate those more technical than myself, especially for getting the word out about the games shortcomings. But this demo is very good, IMHO.
      yea i feel yea, maybe not perfect passes and judging a 1 min demo probably isn't fair but like i said, ill save my judgment for the game when i can play some 10 minute quarters.

      its just frustrating because this gen they started out about 10 steps back from the ps2/xbox maddens and they're just now catching up. the franchise should have progressed a lot farther than it is right now IMO, even graphically it wasn't up to par to last gen until this year, the past player models, faces and all that were hideous

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      • Garrett67
        MVP
        • Sep 2004
        • 1429

        #1443
        Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

        One thing I can say that I don't like that I hope will be adjustable is the way the camera moves down on a running play.

        When the play starts, I can't see as clearly as I'd like. I think the overlay gets in the way too , but I could be mistaken. I just don't like the view.
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        • Manbearpig
          Rookie
          • Jun 2009
          • 403

          #1444
          Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

          I dont see bad DB coverage, I see REALISTIC DB coverage that varies based on ratings

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          • MAzing87
            Pro
            • Jul 2009
            • 597

            #1445
            Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

            Originally posted by mems1224
            that was a dope catching animation but whats up with that throw? he barely moves his arm foward and the ball flies 40 yards
            That's how Romo really throws believe it or not.

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            • mems1224
              Rookie
              • Aug 2008
              • 461

              #1446
              Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

              Originally posted by JerseySuave4
              i disagree about the cpu being untouchable, i was able to get good pass rush on Warner and the Cards got good rush on me. When they rushed 3 i obviously had more time but the cpu is good at getting the ball off quicker when they get rushed just like a good qb would do in real life. I also threw some bad passes, especially on the run when getting rushed or when i got hit.

              I do agree about the playcalling screen, i dont like the 3 plays on the screen and pick it by pressing a different button. I prefer NCAA's playcalling screen. And i dont like that the accelerated clock was on the demo because it doesnt give you a lot of time presnap to make adjustments.
              yea the acc. clock in the demo was dumb but im glad its in the game overall

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              • ChicagoChris
                60526
                • Jul 2002
                • 1547

                #1447
                Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                Originally posted by LAKE4742
                I agree to an extent. Core Madden flaws such as suction blocking, bad DB coverage, or weird animations certainly aren't small gripes. Yep, those flaws are in this demo, and probaly in the game. But, IMO, there are improvements in those areas. Plus, there's alot of new stuff that impresses me. And, some of the things I'm seeing complaints about don't seem to happen that often. Now, complaining about cutscenes, warning beeps, and a player wrapping a player up instead of hitting him is a little overboard. As with any game, the devs may not get it done exactly the way everyone likes, but in this case, at least there's alot more in the game now, and done moderately well. But, I too am kinda shocked at some of these comments. I'm certainly not the most technical guy here, but this game seems to play a smooth, fun, sim game of football, finally. IMO, of course. They even got even got the toe drags, and hitting out of bounds right. I mean, c'mon. Not only did they get them right, but, everything happens so smoothly, and looks great (realistic)!



                The QB makes perfect passes? What?! Personally, I've seen the QB throw as many misses as completions. I don't see any evidence of Robo QB. NONE. But, I understand knee-jerk reactions can be wrong. I believed in Madden 09...08..07, and 06. But, that was before I was really educated on the real problems. I had much less Madden knowledge before finding Apex, Moody, and others here. I'm using my eagle eye alot more these days. I appreciate those more technical than myself, especially for getting the word out about the games shortcomings. But this demo is very good, IMHO.
                Agreed. If Warner gets hurt in your demo and Leinart comes in....you WILL see the difference immediately. From accuracy to overthrows, Leinart is all of the place. Good to see this!!

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                • mems1224
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 461

                  #1448
                  Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by MAzing87
                  That's how Romo really throws believe it or not.
                  yea but they forgot the part where he runs out of the pocket like a chicken with no head and fumbles

                  oh wait, it wasn't the fourth quarter yet

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                  • LBzrule
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 13085

                    #1449
                    Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by Manbearpig
                    I dont see bad DB coverage, I see REALISTIC DB coverage that varies based on ratings
                    Yeah, It's not bad, depending on the ratings. It could use some more options next year though. Actually some guys on offense will be complaining with the retail version when some CB's press their WR's at the line for 5 seconds and send a blitz with it and you basically have to eat it or just throw it up with nobody open LOL.

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                    • mavfan21
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1842

                      #1450
                      Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by mems1224
                      what different about the gameplay? please explain. other than more people involved in tackles from time to time and the graphics are improved.

                      same crappy pass blocking, WR and cornerback gameplay is unchanged. and the CPU QB is still untouchable and makes perfect passes

                      Totally disagree. Watched Fitzgerald and Taylor jostle for position on a deep pass, it was great. Saw Hines and Ralph Brown do the same, NEVER saw that in previous editions.

                      I sacked the QB 3 times in the Cowboys/Giants demo, 2 with Ratliff, 1 with Spears. I am a below average Madden player I reckon and I don't think there's ANY WAY you can have worse skills than me.

                      I bet if you keep playing you'll get some pressure. Play the Cards/Steelers demo, the longer quarters give you a MUCH better impression of the game.
                      Don't look back too long and don't look too far ahead.

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                      • mems1224
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 461

                        #1451
                        Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by mavfan21
                        Totally disagree. Watched Fitzgerald and Taylor jostle for position on a deep pass, it was great. Saw Hines and Ralph Brown do the same, NEVER saw that in previous editions.

                        I sacked the QB 3 times in the Cowboys/Giants demo, 2 with Ratliff, 1 with Spears. I am a below average Madden player I reckon and I don't think there's ANY WAY you can have worse skills than me.

                        I bet if you keep playing you'll get some pressure. Play the Cards/Steelers demo, the longer quarters give you a MUCH better impression of the game.
                        lol like the self confidence. yea, i only played the demo twice, i was all for slowing down the speed of the game but man...that was waay too slow. i know the full game will be better than the 1 minute demo

                        and i dont have the 5 min demo cause i dont think imma buy madden this year...maybe next. ill rent it though from gamefly

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                        • mavfan21
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 1842

                          #1452
                          Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                          Anyone notice Leinart has short sleeves on under his jersey?

                          All you equipment nerds (like me) must be getting all turned on.

                          Wish NCAA would add this seeing as how many players wear them now.
                          Don't look back too long and don't look too far ahead.

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                          • RGiles36
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3962

                            #1453
                            Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by LBzrule
                            Actually some guys on offense will be complaining with the retail version when some CB's press their WR's at the line for 5 seconds and send a blitz with it and you basically have to eat it or just throw it up with nobody open LOL.
                            I was faced with this yesterday...[resulted in an incomplete pass]
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                            • MAzing87
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 597

                              #1454
                              Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by mems1224
                              yea i feel yea, maybe not perfect passes and judging a 1 min demo probably isn't fair but like i said, ill save my judgment for the game when i can play some 10 minute quarters.

                              its just frustrating because this gen they started out about 10 steps back from the ps2/xbox maddens and they're just now catching up. the franchise should have progressed a lot farther than it is right now IMO, even graphically it wasn't up to par to last gen until this year, the past player models, faces and all that were hideous
                              I agree that this gen Madden games should have progressed much farther than it has. However, I can't discredit the effort made based off the demo. I feel as though the current consoles have so much hidden power that devs should be able to tap into their potential by now. And Madden is no exception. It's more of a decision to release minor tweaks and ugprades for the sake of business to keep the franchise running along. I still think a new engine is needed to really capture the natural movements of the players.

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                              • DickDalewood

                                #1455
                                Re: Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

                                Has everyone that was complaining about it noticed that the play call screen only covers the cut scenes ONCE THE BUTTON IS PUSHED?

                                At least we can put THOSE worries to rest now

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