Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

[matt8204]

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Leave my Lions out of this lol.

Haha, sorry man. Nothing personal. Your day will come.

[DereckM]

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Haha, sorry man. Nothing personal. Your day will come.

Yeah i have been saying my day will come for a loooooonnnnngg time. So can someone answer this for me? Why do you guys or some guys not like slang? Just wondering really. Is it a cultural thing? Cool guy, nerd guy thing? Or prep, street thing? Just want a few opinions I know its off subject but seems like alot of things in the forums are off subject now.

Anyway to add to the impressions though. This demo is really good IMO. I still dislike how you can be falling down and press a button to all of a sudden change your momentum. Which totally breaks all laws of gravity, and physics and such. Hopefully these will be the first things the dev team works on with M11. Not presentation not new features not whether a guy wears a platinum change under his jersey. Please work on momentum and physics first.

[nxtbardi]

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Couple things I don't like :

-Changing to different packages has changed. Why didn't they leave it the way it was? Choosing it at the formation screen so I can see where Fitzgerald lines up, instead of just choosing "Strong Slot" or whatever. I liked it the old way. Much easier.

-The playcalling screen should have the play on the left side be circle, but I guess that is just something to get used to. Shouldddd be something like Left is square middle X and right O. And back is triangle. Oh well.

-Injuries seem a little too much, but not that big of a deal.

[tooldude79]

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i just had a play where Warner threw an interception when he was throwing to larry Fitzgerald and Kurt had no pressure on him at all.

The problem is, right after the play, i get a cutscene of Warner screaming at the Right Tackle(did his job) and then Whisenhunt screaming at Boldin(who was completely out of the play on the other side of the field).

cutscenes are all nice and pretty but if theyre illogical then they are useless imo

[CoHouse2814]

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Well, to make the NFL you need to have a fair level of talent. I think a lot of it comes down to preparation, desire, discipline and execution at that level. That's what separates good teams from bad teams. Do you skip out to eat lunch or spend an hour watching film on the other team? I just don't know how they would replicate that in Madden aside from using the pure ratings.

i dont know if madden current engine is capable of replicated but they would have to start from square one. they would need new ratings to handle things like read and react in regards to footwork, awareness, and execution for all position. madden engine is a flawed system for FOOTBALL and bring true simulation to life. so in order for them to follow the NFL from technique to execution they would have to start from square or focus the WHOLE ENTIRE dev cycle to that aspect of the game

[roadman]

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For the naysayers in the thread that stated people will want to rip Ian and EA a new one for making a challenging statement:

Have you ever worked in business before and you are the underdog and your product has been lacking for a few years.

Would you rather have someone in management not say a word and just sit there and produce the status quo or would you rather have a manager look you straight in the eyes and tell you it's Hammer time. Let's kick some butt.

I'd rather have the Hammer time boss. If we come up short in some peoples eye, it wasn't for the lack of effort.

Anyone with a straight face that can tell anyone that 10 isn't much better than 09 is not telling the truth.

We want some one like Ian in charge that will listen to our frustrations and see if he can implements the changes throughout the whole Madden series.

For some of you, being much better than 09 won't be enough. I respect that, but also respect those that feel 09 is much better than 10.

We all have different expectations of what a good game of video game football is. We all aren't the same and that is a good thing.

[Manbearpig]

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i dont know if madden current engine is capable of replicated but they would have to start from square one. they would need new ratings to handle things like read and react in regards to footwork, awareness, and execution for all position. madden engine is a flawed system for FOOTBALL and bring true simulation to life. so in order for them to follow the NFL from technique to execution they would have to start from square or focus the WHOLE ENTIRE dev cycle to that aspect of the game

Stop with this whole new engine talk, it makes no sense Ian already explained

[DereckM]

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For the naysayers in the thread that stated people will want to rip Ian and EA a new one for making a challenging statement:

Have you ever worked in business before and you are the underdog and your product has been lacking for a few years.

Would you rather have someone in management not say a word and just sit there and produce the status quo or would you rather have a manager look you straight in the eyes and tell you it's Hammer time. Let's kick some butt.

I'd rather have the Hammer time boss. If we come up short in some peoples eye, it wasn't for the lack of effort.

Anyone with a straight face that can tell anyone that 10 isn't much better than 09 is not telling the truth.

We want some one like Ian in charge that will listen to our frustrations and see if he can implements the changes throughout the whole Madden series.

For some of you, being much better than 09 won't be enough. I respect that, but also respect those that feel 09 is much better than 10.

We all have different expectations of what a good game of video game football is. We all aren't the same and that is a good thing.

I have seen about a 70/30 in favor of the demo being good. This is the problem that I was talking about in other threads. Its ok for people to post 4 times about how good the game is playing and whatnot. But as soon as a guy says they dont like the game. It turns into the whole basher, naysayer, ***** thing. Im just saying let people say how they feel and leave it at that. Why does it always have to turn into a basher or fanboy thing?

[LAKE4742]

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i just had a play where Warner threw an interception when he was throwing to larry Fitzgerald and Kurt had no pressure on him at all.

The problem is, right after the play, i get a cutscene of Warner screaming at the Right Tackle(did his job) and then Whisenhunt screaming at Boldin(who was completely out of the play on the other side of the field).

cutscenes are all nice and pretty but if theyre illogical then they are useless imo

Good point. I think Ian and company put alot of stuff in based on what we asked for, and made the game prettier in the process. But some adds don't seem to be implemented with true regard for what's happening on the field, or some don't make any sense at all. Like the Cardinals in front of the Steelers bench during the SB intro-what is that? Now, I don't like the way the tackle cutscenes happen a bit too early, and I can defnitely live with that. It just seems that some adds are done in a way that a 5 year old would do it. I mean, put some thought into it, don't just cut and paste everywhere, repeatedly. What happens on Sunday, is we get different camera angles, and not always at the same times on each play.
It looks like they at least got the TD celebrations right, by showing the right guy. Now, they just need to clean up some of these other shots.

[CoHouse2814]

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thats why i said they need to devote alot of the dev cycle revamping the current engine especially when it comes to blocking. no one block in real life like madden block and i dare anyone to show me vid comparing. im not saying madden dont block right cause it times where they do follow there assignments but like i said its very inconsistent to the point where its fake

[roadman]

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I have seen about a 70/30 in favor of the demo being good. This is the problem that I was talking about in other threads. Its ok for people to post 4 times about how good the game is playing and whatnot. But as soon as a guy says they dont like the game. It turns into the whole basher, naysayer, ***** thing. Im just saying let people say how they feel and leave it at that. Why does it always have to turn into a basher or fanboy thing?

As I stated earlier, the same people seem to be complaining and bringing up the same issues and the same videos.

I wish they would leave it as that. Drop their opinion and exit stage left.

Same with the people that praise the game.

[alliance4g63]

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I'm still reading through the impressions so excuse me if I repeat what most are saying.

My impressions so far:
It's the best and most fun Madden game on next-gen thus far. It really is a big difference from 09 and I see the potential. Ian and Co. should be commended for their efforts, and at the moment I would recommend a purchase.

With that said, I'm still a little on the fence for my personal purchase. I mean the game is pretty hype but the more I play, the more I start finding out the reasons I'm sacked or the reason I can't run to the outside. The game still has almost game killing glitches in the gameplay department.

I can sit and have fun with the game but I also did with last years. But after a few weeks the fun wears off. I can't help but get that same feeling here.

+Presentation
+Tackle detection. I have seen a lot of hits where the ball carrier will get hit and while he is being hit I will come in with the safety and take out his legs. It looks amazing everytime I see it.
+Crowd volume and atmosphere. Very glad they paid attention to our requests. Madden has the same intesity as NBA2k9 and that says alot.

-Speed. I just don't feel the speed difference in someone like Willie Parker. They all seem to run the same speed.
-Personality. It's hard to tell the difference between most on the field.
-Running animation is just bad. I'm sorry but I laugh everytime I see the ball carrier in the open field. It just look ridiculous.
-Too many gameplay glitches.

[LAKE4742]

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As I stated earlier, the same people seem to be complaining and bringing up the same issues and the same videos.

I wish they would leave it as that. Drop their opinion and exit stage left.

Same with the people that praise the game.

Sounds like you don't want to hear anyone's opinion except your own.

[jlukes]

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Mods here really dropped the ball here. Far too much discussion to contain in one thread. Impossible to find anything of value and actually have...ya know... a discussion. No way to find if anyone has asked your question even using the search function. Impossible to see if a questions has already been answered because there are about 200 different "discussions" going on in this thread alone

Should have had several "stickied" threads. One for gameplay discussion, one for presentation discussion, and one for miscellaneous discussion.

[cplus1]

it c as 55 to 45 in favor of demo and all u in favor are mostly bias towards ea