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  • Noobstur
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 57

    #1

    Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

    Why is the backup QB still being used as the holder on FGs/ExtraPoint attempts?

    I know that for the Raiders, Shane Lechler the punter is the one who always holds the snap but I saw a video where Jeff Garcia was the holder.

    I thought authenticity was taken into account in this year's Madden?
    But why hasn't this been addressed?
  • DaRealestEver
    Rookie
    • Jul 2009
    • 36

    #2
    Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

    omg people who cares who's holding the ball. some teams use back up QB's some use punters. its not like the holder is going to fumble the snap. chill out

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    • Tweeg
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 1414

      #3
      Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

      Originally posted by DaRealestEver
      omg people who cares who's holding the ball. some teams use back up QB's some use punters. its not like the holder is going to fumble the snap. chill out
      Thanks for the insight.

      Anyways, it is a bit annoying that we still don't have the option to change who holds the ball. I think in most cases right now it is the punter that does the holding (real life). It seems like it would be an easy fix just to let us choose the holder in the depth chart. It would be no different than choosing our long snapper.
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      • thecougarbear
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        • Mar 2009
        • 248

        #4
        Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

        Originally posted by DaRealestEver
        omg people who cares who's holding the ball. some teams use back up QB's some use punters. its not like the holder is going to fumble the snap. chill out
        Live and let live, man.. Some people care wbout things that you clearly don't. Are you right? Sure. Is he right? Sure. Just because you don't care doesn't mean that no one should...

        I would prefer to see the real holders in there, personally.

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        • tarrant84
          Rookie
          • Jul 2009
          • 20

          #5
          Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

          Originally posted by DaRealestEver
          omg people who cares who's holding the ball. some teams use back up QB's some use punters. its not like the holder is going to fumble the snap. chill out
          Because, in theory, a team that uses the backup QB as a holder can potentially run a fake FG play while a team with the Punter can't.

          Unless, of course, you're the Philadelphia Eagles, and your punter is Sav Rocca.

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          • JohnnyNutman
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            • Apr 2009
            • 234

            #6
            Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

            yeah, i also wonder why the punter doesnt hold the ball.
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            • rsoxguy12
              Pro
              • Apr 2009
              • 505

              #7
              Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

              As long as there isn't some kind of holding rating, I don't really care who holds the ball on field goals as long as its a clean hold each time.
              Still would be cool though to have implemented.

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              • MattieShoes
                Rookie
                • Aug 2006
                • 489

                #8
                Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

                Originally posted by tarrant84
                Because, in theory, a team that uses the backup QB as a holder can potentially run a fake FG play while a team with the Punter can't.

                Unless, of course, you're the Philadelphia Eagles, and your punter is Sav Rocca.
                +1.
                This is the sort of minor glitch that annoys me far more than the "he's got the wrong mouth guard!" issues. Simple fix for it is a depth chart for holder. Wait a minute, why DON'T we have a depth chart for that?

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                • Lodeus
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 448

                  #9
                  Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

                  The Cowboys used to use Romo as the holder and...

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                  • Weapon X
                    Relentless
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 212

                    #10
                    Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

                    Is there a reason we can't just go in and position sub the punter as the holder?

                    WX
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                    • thecougarbear
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 248

                      #11
                      Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

                      Originally posted by Weapon X
                      Is there a reason we can't just go in and position sub the punter as the holder?

                      WX
                      Depends on if TRUE position substitutions are in. Last gen? Yes. 2008 current gen? No. 2009? No clue, I refused to buy it. i know that they added some kind of position subs, the "on the fly ones," but to be honest, i'm not sure if that entails the ability to makes subs on this detail, or on kick off, etc.

                      Anyone have the answer?

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                      • WFColonel56
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 620

                        #12
                        Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

                        This is really a game killer for me.

                        *am I being serius or sarcastic....you'll never know....mmmm*

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                        • Piderman
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1953

                          #13
                          Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

                          Originally posted by tarrant84
                          Because, in theory, a team that uses the backup QB as a holder can potentially run a fake FG play while a team with the Punter can't.

                          Unless, of course, you're the Philadelphia Eagles, and your punter is Sav Rocca.
                          yes but if a defense is smart enough to see the holder is the qb and not the punter, they might audible in suspicion of a fake, unless your playing the eagles i guess

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                          • WFColonel56
                            Pro
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 620

                            #14
                            Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

                            Originally posted by thecougarbear
                            Depends on if TRUE position substitutions are in. Last gen? Yes. 2008 current gen? No. 2009? No clue, I refused to buy it. i know that they added some kind of position subs, the "on the fly ones," but to be honest, i'm not sure if that entails the ability to makes subs on this detail, or on kick off, etc.

                            Anyone have the answer?
                            In 09 you could do subs on kick off, kickoff return, punt, punt return, punt block.(damn near every special team)..But you had limited positons to pick from at some positions.......

                            Like on kickoff return *I think* you had a choice on whick LB you wanted in as like a front line guy, but he had to be a LB

                            But on FG I only remember having a choice at which QB I wanted to hold

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                            • chance
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 2219

                              #15
                              Re: Punters as the FG holders. Authenticity?

                              Originally posted by Weapon X
                              Is there a reason we can't just go in and position sub the punter as the holder?

                              WX
                              Make the P the backup QB...
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