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  • Bahnzo
    Can't spell antetokounmpo
    • Jun 2003
    • 2809

    #1

    Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

    Latest Versions- BattingToolsV1p PitchingTools1g 2007 only.
    LINK - Roster Tools Complete for Excel 2007
    LINK - Roster Tools for 2003. v1g Batting, V1a Pitching are latest files. Thanks for GTM for helping me find the bugs.
    LINK - Updated Excel Sheets, w/o the database download.
    LINK - PitchFX database update 08/31/2009. Put in folder and overwrite old one.


    So here they are, both batting and pitching. I wanted to get them out so people could update their rosters with the trade deadline now passed.

    The version for Excel 2003 is *very* beta. I can't guarantee it to work. I suspect the batting tools have a much better chance of working because I used Visual Basic to program it almost entirely. If you have any problems with it, please PM me directly.

    With both versions, you will have to allow macros to run for them to work. Also, both must be installed into c:\bball, not doing so will for sure cause the pitching tool not to work...batting probably doesn't matter.

    I've tried to make sure they are as error free as possible, but if you come across any, please contact me and make sure you include not only the version you are using, but also the Player/Team/Year you used. There's a lot of sorting and stuff that goes on, and I've done my best to try lots of teams and players, but I'm sure there's stuff I didn't try that someone else will.

    With the batter tools, there's one thing that may cause occasional problems. It has to do with the naming convention of players on Baseball-reference.com. Some players have similar names, so the website uses a 01, 02, 03 after the names. I've put in a routine that should warn you if there's a problem, and then you'll need to use the "Variation" drop box to get the correct stats. If there's any questions, please feel free to ask, I'll explain further.

    And as always, I'm totally open to comments and discussion about ratings and the program. Feel the batting ratings aren't right? Let's discuss it. Got an idea for something you'd like to see? Let me know.

    I'm pretty happy with the ratings with the exception of infield arm ratings. I tried to come up with something that works well, but that particular area is tough to do with stats. Also, ratings for the current year (2009) when it comes to arms and such might be off due to some rating not being available until the season is over. But just using it to update contact and power ratings work just fine.

    Plans for future versions:
    I want to put in a single player option where you can just type a name and get a players contact and power stats without having to load a whole team. I also want to give the option to rate the players based either on their career stats or on a weighted 3 year average (ie: for MLB 10's rosters).

    Enjoy!
    Last edited by Bahnzo; 09-01-2009, 06:18 PM.
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  • gtm
    M*t*l F*r*v*r
    • Jul 2002
    • 3946

    #2
    Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

    Any Team any Year, I get the following:

    I have Excel 2003, XP

    run time error '1004'
    unable to open
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYM/2003.shtml. Cannot locate the Internet Server or proxy server.
    CLICK ME==> NY Jets Dynasty

    CLICK ME==> NY Mets Dynasty Page

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    • Bahnzo
      Can't spell antetokounmpo
      • Jun 2003
      • 2809

      #3
      Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

      Originally posted by gtm
      Any Team any Year, I get the following:

      I have Excel 2003, XP

      run time error '1004'
      unable to open
      http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYM/2003.shtml. Cannot locate the Internet Server or proxy server.
      Sounds to me like your firewall is blocking excel.
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      • gtm
        M*t*l F*r*v*r
        • Jul 2002
        • 3946

        #4
        Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

        It started loading and I now get this message:

        run-time error '438'.
        Object doesn't support this property or method.

        This was under batting rating getting Mets - 1973
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        CLICK ME==> NY Mets Dynasty Page

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        • Bahnzo
          Can't spell antetokounmpo
          • Jun 2003
          • 2809

          #5
          Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

          Originally posted by gtm
          It started loading and I now get this message:

          run-time error '438'.
          Object doesn't support this property or method.

          This was under batting rating getting Mets - 1973
          Please...PM me instead with problems with 2003 version....like I said, I can't be sure it'll work in 2003.



          Also, I found a small bug with the PitcherTool. I simply didn't sort the balls and strikes correctly for the last 3-4 pitchers..nothing big but needed fixed.

          HERE is a link to the updated file only..no database, so it's a quick download. Other files are updated to reflect the new version.
          Last edited by Bahnzo; 08-01-2009, 04:12 PM.
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          • Tnarg72
            Rookie
            • Aug 2006
            • 17

            #6
            Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

            Great Tool. Works perfect.
            One question- are you planning on a different version for batting pre 1954?
            I know its hard to find the data, left/right splits etc.

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            • Bahnzo
              Can't spell antetokounmpo
              • Jun 2003
              • 2809

              #7
              Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

              Originally posted by Tnarg72
              Great Tool. Works perfect.
              One question- are you planning on a different version for batting pre 1954?
              I know its hard to find the data, left/right splits etc.
              I'm working on that, like you said, Play by Play data doesn't exist pre-1954, so a lot of what I do in the spreadsheet isn't possible. It's on my to-do list after some other things...it just depends on what kind of data is available.

              Edit: Just looked at some data...with no left/right splits, how would people want that kind of info calculated? Just even up for both sides? or something like 60/40 depending on what side they bat from? (ie: Right hander is slightly less against RHP, slightly better against LHP)
              Last edited by Bahnzo; 08-01-2009, 09:44 PM.
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              • caldi06
                Rookie
                • Aug 2008
                • 203

                #8
                Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

                Ok i downloaded the files and everything looks awesome. Unfortunetly i dont have Excel at the moment
                Anyways i downloaded Excel Viewer and was looking at the Braves examples on there. I plugged the ratings into The Show and the overalls looked pretty good. Just one question though, When it says Fastball 91/88/40 does the 91 mean the rating to give the guy or the speed of the pitch? i ask this because a 91 rating would make it a 97 MPH fastball and not everybody can throw that hard. And im not complaining but are all the control ratings accurate? i saw that Jurgens had an 88 control rating for his slider. That means he will throw that pitch for a strike almost every time.

                All in all these ratings look really good. As soon as i get excel i will be using them i just wanted to clear some things up.

                Thanks
                Last edited by caldi06; 08-02-2009, 08:54 AM.

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                • Bahnzo
                  Can't spell antetokounmpo
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 2809

                  #9
                  Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

                  1. Don't ask people to send you programs in email. I suggest editing your post before you get a card.

                  I thought this question would come up. You'll see under the ratings window it says "Ratings= Speed(MPH)/Control/Break", meaning the pitch is in MPH, not it's rating number.

                  I'm open to control ratings discussion, but I think you read something wrong....Jurrjens slider rating is 80/60/82, meaing a 60 control rating. Fair possibly for a guy that threw his slider for a strike 58% of the time. Maybe you meant his cutter? The control rating on that is 88...he's 70% strikes on that pitch, although he hasn't thrown it much.

                  The way I arrived at the control rating, was after doing some looking, some of the best control pitchers threw around 75% strikes with their better pitches. So I took 80% I think and made that a control rating of 99, and scaled it from there.

                  Also, I took the link down for the 2003 version. It's obvious that it doesn't work and needs some changes to be compatible. No sense having people download something that's broke. If you are good with excel programming and want to help me figure out what's up with it, lemme know and we can try some stuff.
                  Last edited by Bahnzo; 08-02-2009, 12:14 AM.
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                  • Tnarg72
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 17

                    #10
                    Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

                    I like the idea of the 60/40 split for the seasons with little data.
                    Looking forward to making some all-time teams using your work.

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                    • caldi06
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 203

                      #11
                      Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

                      Originally posted by Bahnzo
                      1. Don't ask people to send you programs in email. I suggest editing your post before you get a card.

                      I thought this question would come up. You'll see under the ratings window it says "Ratings= Speed(MPH)/Control/Break", meaning the pitch is in MPH, not it's rating number.

                      I'm open to control ratings discussion, but I think you read something wrong....Jurrjens slider rating is 80/60/82, meaing a 60 control rating. Fair possibly for a guy that threw his slider for a strike 58% of the time. Maybe you meant his cutter? The control rating on that is 88...he's 70% strikes on that pitch, although he hasn't thrown it much.

                      The way I arrived at the control rating, was after doing some looking, some of the best control pitchers threw around 75% strikes with their better pitches. So I took 80% I think and made that a control rating of 99, and scaled it from there.

                      Also, I took the link down for the 2003 version. It's obvious that it doesn't work and needs some changes to be compatible. No sense having people download something that's broke. If you are good with excel programming and want to help me figure out what's up with it, lemme know and we can try some stuff.


                      ok i edited that part of my post out. didnt know that was illegal..thanks for the heads up

                      And thanks for answering my questions. The ratings are awesome and accurate, i just wanted to clear some things up like i said before.

                      I know your probably a very busy guy but would you consider creating your very own roster with Full and Accurate rosters to date using these ratings. (simply for the unfortunate people who do not have Excel. Its not laziness i promise lol)

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                      • Knight165
                        *ll St*r
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 24964

                        #12
                        Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

                        Originally posted by Bahnzo
                        1. Don't ask people to send you programs in email. I suggest editing your post before you get a card.

                        I thought this question would come up. You'll see under the ratings window it says "Ratings= Speed(MPH)/Control/Break", meaning the pitch is in MPH, not it's rating number.

                        I'm open to control ratings discussion, but I think you read something wrong....Jurrjens slider rating is 80/60/82, meaing a 60 control rating. Fair possibly for a guy that threw his slider for a strike 58% of the time. Maybe you meant his cutter? The control rating on that is 88...he's 70% strikes on that pitch, although he hasn't thrown it much.

                        The way I arrived at the control rating, was after doing some looking, some of the best control pitchers threw around 75% strikes with their better pitches. So I took 80% I think and made that a control rating of 99, and scaled it from there.

                        Also, I took the link down for the 2003 version. It's obvious that it doesn't work and needs some changes to be compatible. No sense having people download something that's broke. If you are good with excel programming and want to help me figure out what's up with it, lemme know and we can try some stuff.
                        Bahnzo...


                        The ratings scale looks EXCELLENT to me.
                        Man, this is a nice program.(I'm going out to buy an Excel program tomorrow....I can't find my discs ....and it looks like my laptop is O.O.S. for a while.)
                        Great work.
                        ...and yes on the 60/40 generic split. That is kind of what I was doing.

                        M.K.
                        Knight165

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                        • andrewz23308
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 139

                          #13
                          Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

                          What happened with the link for the 97-2003 excel roster ratings?

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                          • JaFFiTh
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 1686

                            #14
                            Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

                            Originally posted by andrewz23308
                            What happened with the link for the 97-2003 excel roster ratings?
                            My thoughts exactly I have Excel 2003 and actually in middle of working on a roster, so this definitely would come in handy!

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                            • caldi06
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 203

                              #15
                              Re: Roster Tools - Complete Suite now available

                              Originally posted by Bahnzo
                              Also, I took the link down for the 2003 version. It's obvious that it doesn't work and needs some changes to be compatible. No sense having people download something that's broke. If you are good with excel programming and want to help me figure out what's up with it, lemme know and we can try some stuff.

                              It wasnt working so he took it down. He is working on it and trying to fix it for u guys

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