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  • Texas Ace
    Rookie
    • Jul 2009
    • 58

    #1

    QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

    If any of you have played the demo with Tony Romo then you'll know that he has some really wacky passes that come nowhere near the receiver, especially when throwing over 20 yards.

    Romo may be a choker and a bit erratic, but he's one of the more accurate passers in the game.

    I went to double check his accuracy ratings and compared them to Kurt Warner's since that is who I play with in the extended demo.

    Anyway, I was looking at the QB accuracy ratings and they don't make a lot of sense to me.

    For example, Romo has a 91 overall accuracy yet his highest individual accuracy rating is an 88 I believe, while his lowest (deep ball) is a 79 I think.

    Kurt Warner has an accuracy rating of 88 but yet he's in the 90's in the short and mid ratings and in the 80's in the long ball.

    How can Romo have a higher overall accuracy rating by 3 points over Warner but yet is about 5 points less in the short and mid ratings and so low in the deep ball ratings?

    Can someone explain to me how this makes any sense?
  • mmorg
    MVP
    • Jul 2004
    • 2305

    #2
    Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

    Regarding Romo's bad passes, you realize that the conditions on the field are snowy and have 15 MPH winds right? This would be why those medium to long passes are very inaccurate.

    Regarding the ratings I have no idea how those work. I am sure the general Pass Accuracy rating doesn't mean much since they introduced the new ratings.
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    • xanmank
      Pro
      • Jul 2008
      • 565

      #3
      Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

      I thought someone said the overall throw accuracy doesn't mean much- it's just a number, while the individual rating mean a lot more (kinda like how awareness doesn't mean much when they have play-recogition or man/zone coverage for defense).

      I think it was case that the Devs couldn't just get rid of Awareness or Throw Acc. because some code was still tied to it, and some random calculations still depended on these ratings, so it would have caused problems removing those categories, rather than give them less importance. I hope that makes sense- I might not have used the right terminology.
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      • Texas Ace
        Rookie
        • Jul 2009
        • 58

        #4
        Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

        Originally posted by mmorg
        Regarding Romo's bad passes, you realize that the conditions on the field are snowy and have 15 MPH winds right? This would be why those medium to long passes are very inaccurate.

        Regarding the ratings I have no idea how those work. I am sure the general Pass Accuracy rating doesn't mean much since they introduced the new ratings.
        I have taken into account that there is inclement weather in the Cowboys-Giants demo.

        I just didn't get how his accuracy was so average in contrast to his 91 overall accuracy rating.

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        • mmorg
          MVP
          • Jul 2004
          • 2305

          #5
          Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

          Because the Passing Accuracy rating doesn't mean anything anymore. It's just a carryover rating from the legacy ratings, much like awareness is for defensive players.
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          • Ian_Cummings
            MVP
            • May 2008
            • 1919

            #6
            Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

            Overall accuracy doesn't matter anymore - short, medium, deep, and throw on the run are the numbers you should care about.

            Tony's career completion percent is 63.6%. What are you seeing in the demo?

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            • Jobe111
              Rookie
              • Jul 2008
              • 73

              #7
              Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

              Nvrmind ^

              And Tony Romo finished somewhere around 15th in the league in Completion percentage last year. While Warner finished in the top 3. So that'd seem right

              (Don't quote me on those numbers, but I'm pretty sure there right)
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              • MattieShoes
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                • Aug 2006
                • 489

                #8
                Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

                http://www.pro-football-reference.co...erc_active.htm

                Romo is 6/35 among active QBs in completion percentage, ahead of guys like Tom Brady.
                Eli Manning is 30/35 among active QBs in completion percentage, behind guys like Josh McCown and J.P. Losman.

                Romo averages 12.7 Y/C whereas Eli averages 11.5 Y/C. So he's not only more accurate, he's accurate while throwing deeper passes (assuming YAC is roughly equal, I didn't actually go that far checking).

                I don't have a problem with Romo's accuracy in a vacuum, it's just his accuracy relative to Eli Manning's in the demo. Eli seems much more accurate, which doesn't seem right. I don't care if Romo gets bumped up or Eli gets bumped down, but it feels way backwards to me right now.

                Tracking stats in the demo is tricky since an entire game may get you stats like 3 for 4 thanks to the absurdly short quarters.
                Last edited by MattieShoes; 08-05-2009, 08:16 PM.

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                • Jobe111
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 73

                  #9
                  Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

                  Originally posted by MattieShoes
                  http://www.pro-football-reference.co...erc_active.htm

                  Romo is 6/35 among active QBs in completion percentage, ahead of guys like Tom Brady.
                  Eli Manning is 30/35 among active QBs in completion percentage, behind guys like Josh McCown and J.P. Losman.

                  I don't have a problem with Romo's accuracy in a vacuum, it's just his accuracy relative to Eli Manning's in the demo. Eli seems much more accurate, which doesn't seem right. I don't care if Romo gets bumped up or Eli gets bumped down, but it feels way backwards to me right now.

                  Tracking stats in the demo is tricky since an entire game may get you stats like 3 for 4 thanks to the absurdly short quarters.
                  Yea but if you look at that list your saying Daunte Culpepper should be more accurate than Tom Brady

                  Its not so much about Career, its more of what you've done lately. Romo wasn't that accurate last year
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                  • K_GUN
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3891

                    #10
                    Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

                    also keep in mind he's playing in a snowstorm with 15-20 mph winds
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                    • PanthersFanboy
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 364

                      #11
                      Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

                      Originally posted by Ian_Cummings_EA
                      Overall accuracy doesn't matter anymore - short, medium, deep, and throw on the run are the numbers you should care about.

                      Tony's career completion percent is 63.6%. What are you seeing in the demo?
                      If it doesn't matter anymore then why have it in there. Its just a waste of space.
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                      • ViciousFoLife
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                        • Jun 2009
                        • 162

                        #12
                        Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

                        To me throwing accuracy is a quick summary of what to expect the higher it is the better the other sections will be so I don't find it useless at all.

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                        • MattieShoes
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                          • Aug 2006
                          • 489

                          #13
                          Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

                          Eli had the best year of his career last year and Romo had the worst year of his career, and Romo still had a higher completion percentage, higher Y/C, higher QB rating, more yards, and more touchdowns, in less attempts. I'm not suggeting Romo should be some sort of super-fantastic QB (I don't even LIKE the cowboys). If anything, I think Eli's ratings are too high. I'm not going to make a fuss about it, I just saw the thread and thought I'd throw in my two cents.

                          As for weather, they're BOTH playing in a snowstorm with 20mph winds, so that kind of cancels out.

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                          • Echopax
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 452

                            #14
                            Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

                            Poor Rex.

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                            • mmorg
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 2305

                              #15
                              Re: QB accuracy ratings a head-scratcher

                              Originally posted by ViciousFoLife
                              To me throwing accuracy is a quick summary of what to expect the higher it is the better the other sections will be so I don't find it useless at all.
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