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  • j4ever
    Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 64

    #1

    Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

    I've played about 20 games of Madden 10 now.

    While for the most part I love it - due to it finally incorporating some basic features that the 2K series had back in 04-05........like defensive assignments -

    The rating system is ruining this game.

    For one, Adrian Peterson is almost completely unstoppable. If you hand him the ball every play with the Vikings, you will surely win and rush for 300-500 yards.

    Why?

    Running to the outside allows him to get to the corner before his line or the defense can get there. Then when you attempt to tackle him, he will break through 3-7 guys and go for the TD. Hell you get an achievement for stopping him behind the line 3 times in a game.

    Yes he is the best. But this is beyond unrealistic. This is like Bo Jackson in Techmo Bowl.

    If you throw a screen pass to him in the flat, he's gone. Since when did he become the fastest player in the game? He runs away from players that are faster in ratings and should someone take a good angle too him, there's no chance of taking him down with 1 guy.

    Then there's Brian Westbrook, completely unstoppable. 90 catch and 99 acceleration. Let me tell you guys this - in Madden 10, your catch rating isn't a big deal....it helps but no big deal.....all that matters is SPEED. If you have a fast team - that's it.

    Titans defense. I played a guy that picked the Titans. I couldn't throw a pass. He lined up in a goalline defense all the time. Same defense. I couldn't do anything. You snap the ball and they sack you before you can get the throw off. If you try to quick pass it, it will just be inaccurate or get tipped and picked. Seems like a glitch. I tried everything from gun formation to throwing to the backs.....nothing worked. Instant sack or the ball gets tipped and picked. I'm sure that goalline d works with other teams as well.

    If EA wants to change players last year that were in the 95 area to the 89 area - they also need to make that adjustment for their elite players otherwise those players become a cheat code.

    For instance - We did a test with the Vikings -

    4th and 21 in the 4th quarter - Vikings need to score and haven't completed any pass attempts consistently throughout the game yet have 42 points on AD TD's. I pick a defense designed to stop the run and have some help in the secondary should he break loose. The play on offense is Peterson off tackle on a pitch.....He goes for a TD. Gets the toss and runs over 4 players to the end zone------tried that scenario 8 times. Each time he either scores a long 60-70 yard TD or he at least picks up a 1st down and then some. He averaged like 29 yards a carry. and had something like 397 yards.
    Last edited by j4ever; 08-12-2009, 03:27 PM.
  • MAzing87
    Pro
    • Jul 2009
    • 597

    #2
    Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

    Angles of pursuit in the game is suspect. And most of the ProTak moments give a clear advantage to the offensive player. I think the sliders will play a key role in enhancing the game to deliver the NFL like game we hope for. The default settings aren't good to me.

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    • Rekkapryde
      Rookie
      • May 2003
      • 473

      #3
      Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

      I ran into the same problems playing against Chris Johnson. You're not alone.

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      • j4ever
        Banned
        • Oct 2008
        • 64

        #4
        Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

        Originally posted by Rekkapryde
        I ran into the same problems playing against Chris Johnson. You're not alone.

        AHHHHH I forgot about him. How could I. LOL. Is he really that much faster than everybody in the NFL? No. He's fast for a RB but there are DB's that are faster than him.

        So he ran a 4.3 or 4.2 40....are you telling me that the NFL players can't tackle him in real life and he can consistently run for 300 yards?

        Last I checked he breaks off 1-2 good runs a game and gets clobbered most of the time. So fake.

        Sliders are cool and all......but Online gaming doesn't get the sliders adjusted.

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        • King Gro23
          MVP
          • Jan 2008
          • 2548

          #5
          Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

          Quick typical fix, Lower Running abilities of CPU or up USER tackle. & Notch the Speed threshhold so that there is less difference in the Burners & pokeys in the league. I understand your subject though.
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          • mmorg
            MVP
            • Jul 2004
            • 2304

            #6
            Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

            Highly rated players dominate the game? What the crap? Fast players are faster than others? What the hell?

            For some reason I think the OP is greatly embellishing his experiences to try and prove a point.
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            • DakkoN
              All Star
              • Sep 2006
              • 5611

              #7
              Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

              Originally posted by King Gro23
              Quick typical fix, Lower Running abilities of CPU or up USER tackle. & Notch the Speed threshhold so that there is less difference in the Burners & pokeys in the league. I understand your subject though.
              Show me where you can do that online, which is what this thread is about.
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              • tjenkin7
                Rookie
                • Jun 2009
                • 65

                #8
                Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

                Originally posted by j4ever
                AHHHHH I forgot about him. How could I. LOL. Is he really that much faster than everybody in the NFL? No. He's fast for a RB but there are DB's that are faster than him.

                So he ran a 4.3 or 4.2 40....are you telling me that the NFL players can't tackle him in real life and he can consistently run for 300 yards?

                Last I checked he breaks off 1-2 good runs a game and gets clobbered most of the time. So fake.

                Sliders are cool and all......but Online gaming doesn't get the sliders adjusted.
                Chris Johnson is probably the fastest player in the NFL along with Hester. And Johnson actually isn't a big play or bust type of guy. He ran between the tackles plenty of times last year. He has great vision.

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                • j4ever
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 64

                  #9
                  Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

                  I use the Raiders. They are my team. Defense is good with them. My favorite thing about them is - you can assign Nnamdi to the best WR or whoever the offense is using- - I've assigned him to Westbrook when I played the Eagles and Gates when I played the Chargers - took them out. Really helps the chess match. Forces teams to use their other players -

                  Raiders offense - while their ratings suck - they are hard to stop. SPEED is so important and the Raiders have it everywhere. McFadden catching passes out the backfield and 5 to 4 wide formations out of the Gun is nearly impossible to stop. All you gotta do with Oakland is have a couple guys crossing over the middle - Higgins and DHB and 1 guy crossing deep - dink and dunk. The only WR that doesn't run away from the D is Walker. The rest of them run open all day. But should someone run a zone, McFadden will always be open for a short dump off and the deep strike behind the D is there.

                  I mainly throw short to Higgins and run it in for a TD as if it is a punt return. He is so fast and agile that you can run circles with him around the d.

                  DHB is also very good because of his speed. I just played the packers and killed a great corner in CWOOD just because DHB is so much faster on crossing routes.

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                  • j4ever
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 64

                    #10
                    Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

                    Originally posted by tjenkin7
                    Chris Johnson is probably the fastest player in the NFL along with Hester. And Johnson actually isn't a big play or bust type of guy. He ran between the tackles plenty of times last year. He has great vision.

                    So you are a Titan's homer? I watched him. Yes he ran between the tackles. I saw that. But in this game he runs through the tackles because of his speed. He is overrated in Madden in comparison to the rest.

                    And really? He's the fastest? LOL

                    So he is faster than Fabian Washington on the Ravens? A guy that holds the combine record?

                    Faster than Chris Johnson on the Raiders? A guy that ran a 4.19 at his pro day? Faster than Heyward-Bey?

                    The NFL is jam packed with speed. CJ is fast, but the difference between his speed and the fastest LB in the NFL's speed isn't 20 yards. The speed ratings are too spread out for EA's elite speed guys vs the rest of the NFL.

                    It makes certain players 1 man shows in this game.

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                    • WildFan22
                      Pro
                      • May 2009
                      • 932

                      #11
                      Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

                      Didn't C. Johnson have the fastest 40 time ever at the combine?

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                      • Jet Sufferer
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1347

                        #12
                        Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

                        Originally posted by mmorg
                        Highly rated players dominate the game? What the crap? Fast players are faster than others? What the hell?

                        For some reason I think the OP is greatly embellishing his experiences to try and prove a point.
                        Why don't you just call him a liar instead of saying he's "greatly embellishing his experiences". LOL

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                        • tjenkin7
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 65

                          #13
                          Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

                          Originally posted by j4ever
                          So you are a Titan's homer? I watched him. Yes he ran between the tackles. I saw that. But in this game he runs through the tackles because of his speed. He is overrated in Madden in comparison to the rest.

                          And really? He's the fastest? LOL

                          So he is faster than Fabian Washington on the Ravens? A guy that holds the combine record?

                          Faster than Chris Johnson on the Raiders? A guy that ran a 4.19 at his pro day? Faster than Heyward-Bey?

                          The NFL is jam packed with speed. CJ is fast, but the difference between his speed and the fastest LB in the NFL's speed isn't 20 yards. The speed ratings are too spread out for EA's elite speed guys vs the rest of the NFL.

                          It makes certain players 1 man shows in this game.
                          Don't give me these garbage pro day 40's. If those are legit, Lucas Taylor from UT runs a 4.3. Nah.

                          I am a Titans fan. I watched every game last year. Chris Johnson isn't a big play or bust guy. I'm sorry if you think that is homerism.
                          He averaged 4.9 yards a carry last year with over 250 attempts. I few big runs are not going to skew his AVG that high.

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                          • Phennixx
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 155

                            #14
                            Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

                            Okay maybe I'm alone in this but why not just adjust sliders man?

                            Seem like some people enjoy throwing rocks...the game is far from perfect but is a good game...

                            Dont like something about how game is playing its fine 9/10 there is a slider that YOU can adjust to your liking and skill level...

                            I just played Vikes in my Chise and All-Day ran for almost 200 yrds...I was playing with the Lions so seem bout right to me wasnt unstopable but had great game...

                            I thikn the new rating system is head and tail above what we've had in past years, stars play like stars and average players play to thier skill level...Well done dev. team! I'm not a big EA fan guy but I'll give credit when credit is due...

                            All in all its your game and I think the Ian & company have given you all the tools needed to adjust the game and make it an enjoyable expirence for all no matter your play style sim or tour guys...The Franchise is strpped down but so much fun...well Off to play more

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                            • spliff616
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                              • Jul 2009
                              • 80

                              #15
                              Re: Madden 10 Ratings ruining the game

                              Originally posted by WildFan22
                              Didn't C. Johnson have the fastest 40 time ever at the combine?
                              This is actually hard to tell/prove, but most accounts have Deion being the quickest.

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