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  • wwharton
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    • Aug 2002
    • 26949

    #1

    Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

    I've said in many threads that there's no way I'd take anything but a RB high in the draft, so it goes without saying that I'd think going WR/WR in the first two rounds is suicide. Well, this article on cbssportsline actually makes a lot of good points and some sense.



    I still don't completely agree with the idea (it's always easier to find a diamond WR on waivers than a RB. Usually RBs get a chance when the starter in front of them gets injured and then the entire league is scrambling to pick up the back up), but I'll definitely show WRs a little more respect now.
  • Yeah...THAT Guy
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    • Dec 2006
    • 17294

    #2
    Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

    If I'm picking 8-10, I usually will look WR, but other anything before that, I still think RB is the way to go. I pretty much just go best player available with every pick. I have the last pick (10th) in my league that I pay to be in, and each team gets 1 keeper, so I'm keeping Steve Slaton and I'll probably go WR with my first pick.
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    • wwharton
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      #3
      Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

      See, it's tough without knowing everyone else that was kept but in a redraft I still think I go RB anywhere in the top 10. For your league (and your situation) I guess it's more like do you go RB/RB in the top 20. I'm not as hard set on that (this year... previous years I'd still lean that way) but depends on who's there. I still wouldn't touch a QB that early.

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      • Yeah...THAT Guy
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        #4
        Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

        My guess on who the keepers are gonna be:
        Steve Slaton (mine)
        Fitzgerald
        Braylon Edwards
        Michael Turner
        Tomlinson
        Gore
        Peterson
        Kurt Warner or Marshawn Lynch
        Forte or Tom Brady (he's a Patriots fan)
        DeAngelo Williams or Peyton Manning

        After all those guys are gone, I'll have the 10th pick.
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        • mgoblue
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          • Jul 2002
          • 25477

          #5
          Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

          Originally posted by wwharton
          See, it's tough without knowing everyone else that was kept but in a redraft I still think I go RB anywhere in the top 10. For your league (and your situation) I guess it's more like do you go RB/RB in the top 20. I'm not as hard set on that (this year... previous years I'd still lean that way) but depends on who's there. I still wouldn't touch a QB that early.
          I agree with you...I think the bottom of the barrel receivers are better than bottom of the barrel running backs, so I'd still want at least 1 stud RB. I do get what he means though, with teams spreading the ball out if you can get a guy like Fitz who puts up huge numbers you'll be at a bigger advantage than other guys who wait and end up with guys who have lower production.

          It'd make me consider going WR before QB, especially since in most leagues a few guys reach on the top QB's too early.
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          • wwharton
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            • Aug 2002
            • 26949

            #6
            Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

            Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
            My guess on who the keepers are gonna be:
            Steve Slaton (mine)
            Fitzgerald
            Braylon Edwards
            Michael Turner
            Tomlinson
            Gore
            Peterson
            Kurt Warner or Marshawn Lynch
            Forte or Tom Brady (he's a Patriots fan)
            DeAngelo Williams or Peyton Manning

            After all those guys are gone, I'll have the 10th pick.
            Someone's keeping Edwards? Wow.

            I'd try to get a RB if I were you, but the next best may end up being a WR. Looks like a potential 8 will be gone (wouldn't take Lynch even if he was there if I were you) so that still leaves CJohnson, Jackson, Westbrook, Portis that I'd take before most WRs. Barber, Jacobs and Ronnie Brown I'd take before the next tier of WRs (that may be gone by the time you get to 10).

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            • wwharton
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              #7
              Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

              Originally posted by mgoblue
              I agree with you...I think the bottom of the barrel receivers are better than bottom of the barrel running backs, so I'd still want at least 1 stud RB. I do get what he means though, with teams spreading the ball out if you can get a guy like Fitz who puts up huge numbers you'll be at a bigger advantage than other guys who wait and end up with guys who have lower production.

              It'd make me consider going WR before QB, especially since in most leagues a few guys reach on the top QB's too early.
              Yeah I'll always take a WR before a QB... usually 2. Definitely was a good read. I come across a good one every now and then. I'll try to remember to throw the link up over here when I do.

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              • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                • Dec 2006
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                #8
                Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

                Originally posted by wwharton
                Someone's keeping Edwards? Wow.

                I'd try to get a RB if I were you, but the next best may end up being a WR. Looks like a potential 8 will be gone (wouldn't take Lynch even if he was there if I were you) so that still leaves CJohnson, Jackson, Westbrook, Portis that I'd take before most WRs. Barber, Jacobs and Ronnie Brown I'd take before the next tier of WRs (that may be gone by the time you get to 10).
                Yeah he didn't have many options on his keeper.
                Those are his guys.

                QB- Campbell, Orton
                RB- Grant, Hightower, Sproles
                WR- Bowe, Breaston, B Edwards, Evans, Ginn Jr, M Jones, R Moss(can't keep)
                TE-Cooley
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                • wwharton
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                  • Aug 2002
                  • 26949

                  #9
                  Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

                  that sucks. are you guys allowed to trade picks? may be worth him doing something like that... unless he has the first pick. Hell even if he has the 1st i think he should trade it.

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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28962

                    #10
                    Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

                    My league is PPR so WRs are more valuable but the guy who won our league last year went WR/WR/QB the first three rounds. He got Fitzgerald, Wayne and Peyton so he pretty much hit it out of the park. Picking Chris Johnson in the 7th round didn't hurt either, nor did having Jay Cutler as his back up QB.

                    Our draft isn't until Sept 8 so I still have plenty of time to decide but I'm torn on going WR/WR. Our league is a 3-year keeper league so Fitzy, Megatron, Andre Johnson and Wayne aren't going to be available. Roddy White and Steve Smith may also be kept. I have the 5th pick (3rd overall free agent selection) so I'd pretty much have to take Randy Moss there and that's a huge risk due to Brady's situation. Jennings and Boldin will be FA's but they will be around in Rd 2.
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                    • wwharton
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                      #11
                      Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

                      Not to short change the value of Moss who may reclaim his spot at the top of the WR heirarchy this year, but people make the mistake of looking at the first few picks a league champ makes. Just about everybody should have solid picks in the top 3. Honestly, my big money league I finished 3rd but first in points scored and my first 2 picks were LT and Colston. Needless to say I had a good year despite them, not bc of them.

                      His pick of Johnson (and others I'm sure) were the real meat. I spent late picks on Chris Johnson, Bryant, Rodgers, Mason, and Thomas Jones.

                      Basically, the way I look at those early rounds is what positions are the easiest to find quality later. Last year I think it was a little easier to find some quality RBs later but I still think QBs are the easiest with WRs next (not including TEs, Ks and Ds of course).

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                      • ehh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 28962

                        #12
                        Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

                        Pretty much, for the Top 3 picks the biggest key is health moreso than being a bust. In my league the guy who lost in the championship game had Tom Brady and Joseph Addai as his first two picks but drafted Steve Slaton very late, picked up Cassel on the FA wire and had Jennings and Steve Smith who were the #5 and #6 WRs in our league. He started the season 0-4 and didn't lose again until the championship game.

                        At the same time, the guy who won the league with WR/WR/QB averaged 55 ppg from his Top 3 picks, the next closest in our league was 44.

                        But if we go back through the years and look at our fantasy draft history unless someone had LT in his prime (or Brady/Moss in '07) then most championships were won in Rounds 4-8 in the draft or sometimes even later in the case of a rookie/breakout RB or WR.
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                        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                          • Dec 2006
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                          #13
                          Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

                          The official list of keepers is:
                          Steve Slaton (me)
                          Tony Romo
                          Tom Brady
                          Peyton Manning
                          Drew Brees
                          Kurt Warner
                          Braylon Edwards
                          Adrian Peterson
                          Chris Johnson
                          LaDainian Tomlinson

                          A little note too; the starting lineup is 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Def. Team, 1 IDP, and 1 QB/RB/WR/TE

                          At pick #10, I should be able to get Andre Johnson, Randy Moss, Clinton Portis, or Steve Smith.
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                          • wwharton
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                            • Aug 2002
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                            #14
                            Re: Article on taking Wrs in 1st two rounds

                            So you can use a QB in the flex spot. That's really interesting. It may be hard for you to pass on one of those WRs. I think I'd grab them in the order you have them listed, depending on who's left when you pick.

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