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  • pbz06
    Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 1504

    #46
    Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

    Originally posted by RayAP19
    It's flawed in its basic design... in no way does sizing up longer give you a better chance to get to the basket in real life.
    You're one of those guys that tries REALLY hard to not like the game...for any reason you can find. It's like you don't want to like it.

    Sheesh.

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    • HoosierDaddy
      Pro
      • Jul 2005
      • 863

      #47
      Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

      Yeah, I'll have to admit the force field issue with Ray and Tyrus in that video is annoying. Should've been a collision or something.

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      • Melman
        GOAT
        • Feb 2009
        • 209

        #48
        Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

        Originally posted by Nephilim
        NBA 2k has the same thing.. It worked just fine for me...
        Yeah 2k9 has this.....the thing with 2ks's size up moves is it makes your defender move in an uncompromising way and gives the offensive player space just about everytime, I kill with Brandon Roy because of their animations. As long as in Live 10 I have control over my defender and he doesnt get sucked into a canned animation because someone is doing a size-up move then I'm cool. I should be able to have complete control of my defender.
        Yeah so in summation I don't know who you racing I'm already at the finish line with the flag waving, c'mon!

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        • RayAP19
          Banned
          • Oct 2006
          • 2668

          #49
          Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

          Originally posted by michaeljordanjr
          do you know how to size up in real life or have you watched and1 ballers at work?

          The more moves you start harassing the defense with the more they get jumpy and greater the chance of faking them out.


          Your point is mute.
          Okay, so obviously it's a matter of the defender making a mistake. That's not what it sounds like in Live 10. It sounds like no matter what I do as a defender, the Size Up will "charge up" the ballhandler even if I don't gamble, stay in the proper position and move my feet correctly.

          Please don't tell me my point is moot.

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          • stephensonmc
            WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
            • Mar 2003
            • 2105

            #50
            Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

            Originally posted by RayAP19
            Okay, so obviously it's a matter of the defender making a mistake. That's not what it sounds like in Live 10. It sounds like no matter what I do as a defender, the Size Up will "charge up" the ballhandler even if I don't gamble, stay in the proper position and move my feet correctly.

            Please don't tell me my point is moot.
            "charge up" was a bad word choice.

            It's more of a setup move into a go move. If you're worried about the defender being helpless, don't. Look at the other video of Drose ripping Rondo. Plus, as a manual defender you have a few choices --- gap him while he's doing a size up, get up close and gamble for a steal risking him blowing by you, get up close and play solid d by moving your stick in whatever way he moves.
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            • blingballa333
              MVP
              • Sep 2004
              • 1523

              #51
              Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

              Originally posted by stephensonmc
              did you notice the ball hitting the rim then going into the net? Probably the reason for not having a "swish"

              As for Ray vs. Thomas -- If you call that a "forcefield," sure -- we do have plenty of contact at the basket animations though.
              Oh, watched it again, you're right about the ball hitting the back rim. Nice blog, hope to see more contact animations soon.

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              • thesniper321
                Rookie
                • Sep 2008
                • 274

                #52
                Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

                Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
                Yeah, I'll have to admit the force field issue with Ray and Tyrus in that video is annoying. Should've been a collision or something.
                Yeah I saw that too, I guess it's still on easy level or they disable collisions right Marcus?

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                • RayAP19
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 2668

                  #53
                  Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

                  Originally posted by stephensonmc
                  "charge up" was a bad word choice.

                  It's more of a setup move into a go move. If you're worried about the defender being helpless, don't. Look at the other video of Drose ripping Rondo. Plus, as a manual defender you have a few choices --- gap him while he's doing a size up, get up close and gamble for a steal risking him blowing by you, get up close and play solid d by moving your stick in whatever way he moves.
                  It REALLY sounds like it gives you a literal boost in your ability to get past your initial defender, but whatever... I'll wait and see.

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                  • stephensonmc
                    WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 2105

                    #54
                    Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

                    Originally posted by RayAP19
                    It REALLY sounds like it gives you a literal boost in your ability to get past your initial defender, but whatever... I'll wait and see.
                    I know how it SOUNDS. But I'm TELLING you it doesn't.
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                    • aholbert32
                      (aka Alberto)
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 33106

                      #55
                      Re: NBA Live 10 Blog: Dribble Moves

                      Not a big fan of the ball physics. Rose's shot looked extremely flat like a lot of the shots in Live 09. Love the dribble moves though.

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                      • Stumbleweed
                        Livin' the dream
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 6279

                        #56
                        Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

                        Just think about it man... You're sitting there dribbling back and forth, between your legs, whatever.. the defender (especially a human, and ostensibly an AI-controlled player) isn't sure where you're going to go. If they happen to guess right or simply give you a ton of space to stop the drive, they can defend you well... but all the size-up moves make it tough to know which way you're driving.

                        That's the advantage of using size-up moves as opposed to just standing there stationary and then driving to the hoop, using an RS move, etc. I don't think it's anything more than that. And then to counter the effectiveness, the defender has an easier time ripping the ball the longer the ball-handler sits there playing with it.

                        I'm really not worried about the mechanic, especially on higher difficulty levels. I'm sure this was on Rookie/Pro again to capture the dribble moves for the video.
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                        • RayAP19
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 2668

                          #57
                          Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

                          Originally posted by stephensonmc
                          I know how it SOUNDS. But I'm TELLING you it doesn't.
                          Don't worry-- I'll be conducting a little experiment once the demo drops

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                          • HoosierDaddy
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 863

                            #58
                            Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

                            Ray, I think a lot of the effectiveness in these sizeup moves depends on the player using them and the defender. If Kobe is guarded by Quentin Richardson, he'll be at an advantage and abuse him quite often. Not saying it will happen EVERY time because then there's a problem. 75% of the time, Kobe will get to his spot and score. When he's guarded by someone like Bowen or a well-known defender - there's more of a chance of stopping it or containing it. This gives the user much more control of the game and the ability to play 1-on-1 ISOs which happens quite often with superstar players. I love the feature and can't wait to use it.

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                            • stephensonmc
                              WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 2105

                              #59
                              Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

                              Originally posted by RayAP19
                              Don't worry-- I'll be conducting a little experiment once the demo drops
                              LOL -- knock yourself out my man!
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                              • RayAP19
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 2668

                                #60
                                Re: Mike Wangs Blog!

                                Originally posted by Stumbleweed
                                Just think about it man... You're sitting there dribbling back and forth, between your legs, whatever.. the defender (especially a human, and ostensibly an AI-controlled player) isn't sure where you're going to go. If they happen to guess right or simply give you a ton of space to stop the drive, they can defend you well... but all the size-up moves make it tough to know which way you're driving.

                                That's the advantage of using size-up moves as opposed to just standing there stationary and then driving to the hoop, using an RS move, etc. I don't think it's anything more than that. And then to counter the effectiveness, the defender has an easier time ripping the ball the longer the ball-handler sits there playing with it.

                                I'm really not worried about the mechanic, especially on higher difficulty levels. I'm sure this was on Rookie/Pro again to capture the dribble moves for the video.
                                I wish Mike would have worded it like that if it really is like that... =/

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