EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

[EvanRG]

!! These sliders were derived from HolyCrap's Slider Set, but I I've made a lot of changes -- still I give him 90% of the credit for starting what I finished.

I usually don't share sliders but I spent the good part of three hours tonight play game after game trying to get the best feeling as far as:

- Not too many big plays
- More sustained drives by the CPU
- Less cheap interceptions and fumbles
- 15 minute TRUE game with 120-128 plays

After tweak after tweak, I feel like these are pretty darn good. Switching to Very Slow helped the CPU seem less rushed and also cut down on big plays, IMO. I got 120-128 plays CONSISTENTLY which is fabulous. I'm surprised people said that 15 min was too drawn out because it feels great to me. I just got done with a game, Jaguars vs Oakland -- about the 3rd time I've played this match up, and these were the stats:

Jacksonville 23 Oakland 20 in OT
Tot Off: 368 -- 274
Total Plays Overall: 128
Rushing: 140 -- 159
Passing: 228 -- 115
1st Dn: 18 -- 12
Turnovers: 2 -- 0
Fumble: 1 -- 0
Int: 1 -- 0
3rd Dn: 8/20 -- 2/15
Poss: 47:27 -- 21:28

Individual Passing:
D. Garrard 27/46, 268 yds 1 TD 1 INT
J. Russell 10/25, 140 yds 1 TD

Individual Rushing:
D. McFadden 27 att 164 yds, 6.0 avg, 1 TD (long of 32 yds)
M. Jones-Drew 22 att 127 yds, 5.7 avg, 0 TD (long of 63 yds)

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Try these sliders out -- I know they seem crazy, but they work great for me. I'll keep testing these but personally, I don't see myself making many more changes -- you are more then welcome to use these as a starting point -- that's the best idea I can give you.

Please post results

Game Options:
Hardcore
15 min, 25 sec Acc Clock
Game Speed: Very Slow
Player Min Speed Threshold: 60
Fight For Fumble: Off

Penalty Sliders are Broken, I almost had another one of the FG holding calls cost me the game in OT. That being said:

All Penalties at 100 except: Holding: 50, Facemask 25, Clipping 55

Player:
Passing (Overall 15)
QB Accuracy: 18
Pass Blocking: 17
WR Catching: 30 ** UPDATED **

Rushing (13 overall)
Broken tackles: 30
Run Blocking: 30
Fumbles: 35

Pass Defense (9 Overall)
Reaction Time: 60
Interceptions: 0 ** Reduces fluke INTs MORE**
Pass Rushing: HARD, 50- Med, 55- Easy, 60 ** Tweaking to reduce sacks**

Rush Defense ( 17 Overall)
Reaction Time: 0 ** UPDATED **
Block Shedding: 0 ** UPDATED **
Tackling: 45 ** UPDATED **

Computer:
Passing
QB Accuracy: 45
Pass Blocking: 13
WR Catching: 40

Rushing
Broken Tackles: 10
Run Blocking: 65
Fumbles: 30

Pass Defense
Reaction Time: 75 ** Changed to keep CPU from jumping routes **
Interceptions: 0 ** Changed to lessen impact of Reaction Time **
Pass Rushing: 45 ** Changed to give more time in pocket **

Rush Defense
Reaction Time: 49
Block Shedding: 45 ** Changed to reduce breaking runs to the outside **
Tackling: 70 ** Changed to reduce breaking runs to the outside **

[EvanRG]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

Just played NYJ vs Cincy -- I was NY...

Final Score: NYJ 30 -- CIN 22

Tough game all around -- I made a major mistake on a coverage which gave Benson a 80 yard run, but it was my fault and not the sliders... He finished with 180 yards on 26 carries and was the work horse all game -- Still, Sanchez found his rhythm going 22/35 for 220 yards 2 TD, and 2 INT. My Running Back, Jones finished with 111 yards on 21 carries.

This game is too fun.

Oh, and one major note I'm proud of:

Time of Possession was split 31:30 to 28:30!
Total Number of Plays was 124!

[doseyclwn]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

I'm gonna check these out in the morning. They look pretty decent. I've always had a problem finding good sliders because my skill lies somewhere in between pro and all-pro. I'm hoping these work pretty well.

[EvanRG]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

Best advice if you try these out for the first time -- just as in real football, play to stop the run and it will make pass coverage a lot easier.

Good luck.

[EvanRG]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

I'd love for someone to try these out.

I just had my first Franchise game and beat the Vikings with the Browns 26-13 despite 180 yards from AP. The Vike's QB really did them in with a horrible day and some key INT's.

I traded Braylon Edwards for Josh Freeman (KSU QB, was on TB as Backup) and picked up Edgerin James off the FA list -- not a bad offseason, IMO.

[Segagendude]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

I just did. Now, let me preface this by saying I s*ck at Madden.

After my fourth pick 6 to go down 31-0......in the second quarter, no less....I reverted to default Pro.

Perhaps more peeps that can actually play Madden decently will give better feedback. Sorry I couldn't be more help....(That bad game was CLE (me) v. Packers).

[cjnoles9399]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

I played as Miami vs. Atlanta with these. I didn't take down the stats but I thought it was a good game. I lost 20-10. Out of the box passing on Pro was too easy for me and I haven't figured out how to run yet so I'm struggling there. Intermediate play action passing was a little more difficult, but manageable. Still couldn't stretch the field with my WR's but not sure I'm picking my spots right. Running was not so good, seemed like a few too many plays where their line was in my backfield but some of that still may be due to playcalling. My longest runs were probably 6 yards and I didn't have many. Turner had a few 8-9 yard runs and finished with around 80. They had one big play to White caught a slant between the safety and corner in cover 2 and he took it about 40 yards to the house. I had a big play down the middle to Fasano on a blitz that set up a FG.

I'll have to play more to get a good sample size, plus I need to improve at running the ball and throwing outside to my WR's. But at first glance without much Madden experience the gave a pretty good result.

[Dawkins#20]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

These look good but maybe too difficult for some. I may try some of these depending on how my current set works. People who aren't having success should check out Marino's Sliders

[XiX_FaTe_XiX]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

Gonna try these now. I've been putting up 60+ pts and getting shutouts on Marinos sliders even though the feel for them is very good.

Hope this are a bit more difficult.

[MillerTime89]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

i've been running with Marino's too but i'll give these a try
but before i do i have a question
Are you having a hard time rushing the football?
what are you using for special teams?

[celg35]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

the only thing i dont like about those sliders , is the human pass blocking is 13 and the cpu pass rush is 53. now i tried to keep tight ends in to block and using motion as well, but i dont think you get a real amount of time in the pocket. i should be getting at least 3 seconds with a 3-4 front and 1-2 seconds with an all out blitz. i should def be able to complete my dropback if anything.

i like your stats , but i think people will have a hard time with those

[EricAlverado]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

i just saw these, i been looking for some good sliders, so im going to see if these are any good, i like the stats, im into slow playing games, with the most realism. These sound pretty good. Going to start my franchise with either the ravens or giants, ill let you guys know.

[EvanRG]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

I've been doing some major tweaks, but I'm leaving the originals up.

These may not be perfect but the best way for you to get a good game is to make tweaks every time you play until it just feels right.

In my opinion you should tweak the sliders no matter what everyone else is saying. No one plays the same so the sliders won't work for everyone.

I'm finding my best success in the Flats with my passing game, but over the middle is manageable. I took CPU INT's down to cause more knockdowns and also increased CPU QB accuracy while keeping WR catching at 40.

I'll post more stats soon, but feel free to try these out.

[ubernoob]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

I used these sliders in conjunction with the running changes I believe that it was celg who posted them. Just played first game of my franchise here are the stats (I did a few minor tweaks.

Jets - 26 @ 27 - Texans
152 - Rushing Yds - 116
174 - Passing Yds - 260
17 - First Downs - 14
2 - Turnovers - 3
6/14 (42%) - 3rd Down Conv - 7/16 (43%)
34:51 - Possession - 25:09

Passing
NYJ Sanchez: 9/13 91yds 0TD 0INT 14Long 88.9
NYJ Clemens: 11/18 103yds 1TD 1INT 17Long 72.2
HOU Schaub: 24/40 288yds 2TD 2INT 35Long 77.9

Rushing
NYJ Jones: 25att 121yds 4.8avg 0TD 1fum 2over20 33long
HOU Slaton: 13att 61yds 4.6avg 0TD 1fum 1over20 22long
HOU Brown: 6att 53yds 8.8avg 0TD 0fum 1over20 47long

Receiving
HOU Daniels: 7rec 95yds 13.5avg 0TD 35long
HOU Davis: 5rec 48yds 9.6avg 1TD 15long
NYJ Smith: 4rec 58yds 14.5avg 0TD 17long
HOU Johnson: 3rec 27yds 9.0avg 0TD 13long

Defensive
HOU Ryans: 6tak 5ast 1TFL 1FF
NYJ Pace: 6tak 0ast 2TFL 1.0sack 1FF
NYJ Leonhard: 5tak 2ast 1TFL 1INT 1TD

Notes
- Both Sanchez and Slaton were having good games until injury struck. Sanchez tore his labrum.
- 2 defensive TDs (1 per team) were due to bad throws made under pressure.
- HOU Sack Total: 3 NYJ Sack Total: 4
- NYJ was up all game, until the end. HOU recovered an onside kick with 29 seconds left, made GW 54yd FG.
- Scoring Breakdown by QTR
- 1st - NYJ 10 - 0 HOU
- 2nd - NYJ 16 - 7 HOU
- 3rd - NYJ 23 - 10 HOU
- 4th - NYJ 26 - 27 HOU

Game felt great overall. Houston returned an INT in the 4th for a TD that was all my fault, should have taken the sack. Will report more as I play with a few different teams.

[EvanRG]

Re: EvanRG's '15 min' Sliders (Very Slow) - Derived from HolyCrap's Sliders

I used these sliders in conjunction with the running changes I believe that it was celg who posted them. Just played first game of my franchise here are the stats (I did a few minor tweaks.

Jets - 26 @ 27 - Texans
152 - Rushing Yds - 116
174 - Passing Yds - 260
17 - First Downs - 14
2 - Turnovers - 3
6/14 (42%) - 3rd Down Conv - 7/16 (43%)
34:51 - Possession - 25:09

Passing
NYJ Sanchez: 9/13 91yds 0TD 0INT 14Long 88.9
NYJ Clemens: 11/18 103yds 1TD 1INT 17Long 72.2
HOU Schaub: 24/40 288yds 2TD 2INT 35Long 77.9

Rushing
NYJ Jones: 25att 121yds 4.8avg 0TD 1fum 2over20 33long
HOU Slaton: 13att 61yds 4.6avg 0TD 1fum 1over20 22long
HOU Brown: 6att 53yds 8.8avg 0TD 0fum 1over20 47long

Receiving
HOU Daniels: 7rec 95yds 13.5avg 0TD 35long
HOU Davis: 5rec 48yds 9.6avg 1TD 15long
NYJ Smith: 4rec 58yds 14.5avg 0TD 17long
HOU Johnson: 3rec 27yds 9.0avg 0TD 13long

Defensive
HOU Ryans: 6tak 5ast 1TFL 1FF
NYJ Pace: 6tak 0ast 2TFL 1.0sack 1FF
NYJ Leonhard: 5tak 2ast 1TFL 1INT 1TD

Notes
- Both Sanchez and Slaton were having good games until injury struck. Sanchez tore his labrum.
- 2 defensive TDs (1 per team) were due to bad throws made under pressure.
- HOU Sack Total: 3 NYJ Sack Total: 4
- NYJ was up all game, until the end. HOU recovered an onside kick with 29 seconds left, made GW 54yd FG.
- Scoring Breakdown by QTR
- 1st - NYJ 10 - 0 HOU
- 2nd - NYJ 16 - 7 HOU
- 3rd - NYJ 23 - 10 HOU
- 4th - NYJ 26 - 27 HOU

Game felt great overall. Houston returned an INT in the 4th for a TD that was all my fault, should have taken the sack. Will report more as I play with a few different teams.

Time of possession looked fantastic! I had the CPU put up a 16 play, 7 minute drive on me today which was real exciting, but that game looks promising.