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  • bababooey76
    Pro Sports Handicapper
    • Jul 2008
    • 609

    #1

    Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

    I have played Madden for nearly 20 years, since the Sega Genesis days. The game and sports gaming in general has come a long way, but Madden seems to have fallen behind MLB The Show and the NBA 2k series.

    After playing Madden 10 for the past 3 days, I can honestly say that I think this game has taken a huge step forward and has the potential to be a lot of fun, if and only if EA fixes via a patch the following issues:

    Stat Glitch- fix tackling and sim TD stats

    Broken Flats- Several people have tested extensively to prove this is broken

    Clock running after you throw ball away

    Also, field degradation seems to be minimal and uniform degradation appears to be non existent on ps3.

    Pressure from player def. line needs improvement but can be playable with adjusted sliders, but still needs some work

    Something to look at in the future....a different way to kick the ball. I would like to go to a cross bar style meter that one meter controls distance and the other controls accuracy.

    The first 3 issues are deal breakers that have to be fixed IMO. Now, I think we should all hold off before trashing EA and Ian and the gang. We are in an era now where these things can be fixed with a patch, where as not to long ago, this would have been the final product and you would be stuck with it until next years game.

    It is time for Ian and the EA gang to man up. You guys are almost there. This game is so much better in many ways than the last 3 years of Madden. However, if these basic things are not patched, the game is ruined again, and you guys, while possibly looking good on the sales end of the game, will have no credibility with many of the loyal Madden supporters on this site and elsewhere.

    I am not giving up yet on Madden 10. But I am not going to wait 2 months for a patch to fix this stuff. Some of it so basic that it should have been caught before release. If it is not caught, I question this group of developers knowledge of football which may be the reason why this crap continues to happen.

    If it is not fixed, the only way to get the game right again is to stop buying the game. I know people have called for boycotts of the game in the past. It is the only way to get OUR game back. We have to show our disgust and unhappiness by not buying the game if they do not fix this stuff. That will force EA to find a new team to come aboard, or at least make the NFL look at its agreement and open the field up for some competition to put out a quality NFL product.

    I am not trashing Madden 10. There is no one who has played more Madden or loves this once great game more. It is 3 or 4 , I would think relatively simple fixes away from being one hell of a game.
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  • damien6663
    Banned
    • Dec 2008
    • 362

    #2
    Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

    for me my biggest problem with madden 10, is the inability to get user sacks, i get a ton of pressure, but the computer tosses up a lame duck rather then take a sack.

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    • kennyacid
      MVP
      • Nov 2004
      • 1529

      #3
      Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

      Originally posted by damien6663
      for me my biggest problem with madden 10, is the inability to get user sacks, i get a ton of pressure, but the computer tosses up a lame duck rather then take a sack.

      Dive at the qb and dont tun in to him.

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      • CanesFan5
        Rookie
        • May 2009
        • 161

        #4
        Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

        Originally posted by damien6663
        for me my biggest problem with madden 10, is the inability to get user sacks, i get a ton of pressure, but the computer tosses up a lame duck rather then take a sack.
        I've had no trouble getting sacks (in fact, the amount of sacks I have been getting lately is completely unrealistic at 6 sacks with one player, with the Lions D). Dive at the QB when you get close.
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        • MMMonty
          Rookie
          • Jul 2008
          • 144

          #5
          Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

          I agree with the original post. It's a great game. My other gripe is the fact that players tend to attempt over the shoulder catches wayyy to much. I threw a post that I wanted my receiver to go up and catch, and instead of going up and attacking the ball, my receiver turned his back to the ball and tried to catch the ball over his shoulder while jumping...it gets frustrating
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          • Cpterp22
            Banned
            • Jul 2007
            • 939

            #6
            Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

            Sliders can make the game playable. A patch will make this game great. I can still play it, but agree a pitch should come in the next 4-5 weeks

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            • martasfinest
              Rookie
              • Jul 2003
              • 14

              #7
              Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

              "If it is not caught, I question this group of developers knowledge of football which may be the reason why this crap continues to happen."

              I, like you, have been playing Madden since the SEGA days as well. Your statement above says it all. What they need to do is bring in consultants to advise them on the accounts of being in the NFL. Once they have this, they need to revamp the system. Mo Cap every aspect of the game, wide outs on DBs, O-line and D-line interaction, QB and center snap exchange, and linbacker and full back collisions. Once these are Mo Capped, apply the proper physics to these aspects. With these "powerful" systems in place, this should not be too hard to do. I was always taught, in retail, that the consumer is always right, does this apply to EA?

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              • ityaboy56
                Banned
                • Nov 2007
                • 212

                #8
                Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                Just be patient. It just came out, give it a minute. Now if in a month or so and it's still the same then we all have every right to complain. Don't get me wrong, I'm having some the same issues as well. But I have heard people are already given up on it.

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                • vikingsfan1
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 827

                  #9
                  Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                  No sacks and that stupid tackle zoom view should have an option to be turned off. No problems with other cut scenes but that tackle zoom view after every tackle is scripted and cartoonish.

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                  • Ruffy
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1516

                    #10
                    Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                    Don't put all of us in with your opinion.

                    I'm enjoying the hell out of this game despite some flaws. Do us a favour and make a blog....this forum is cluttered with the same thread worded differently.
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                    • Cpterp22
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 939

                      #11
                      Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                      I have not seen the Wr at DB, but a future cure would be a 70 man roster, so when guys get hurt. This doesnt happen

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                      • bababooey76
                        Pro Sports Handicapper
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 609

                        #12
                        Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                        Originally posted by Ruffy
                        Don't put all of us in with your opinion.

                        I'm enjoying the hell out of this game despite some flaws. Do us a favour and make a blog....this forum is cluttered with the same thread worded differently.

                        From the posts I am reading, you are in the minority.
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                        • Ruffy
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1516

                          #13
                          Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                          Originally posted by bababooey76
                          From the posts I am reading, you are in the minority.


                          Nah the people who are enjoying the game don't bother to post about it.
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                          • StormJH1
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1228

                            #14
                            Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                            Originally posted by Ruffy
                            Don't put all of us in with your opinion.

                            I'm enjoying the hell out of this game despite some flaws. Do us a favour and make a blog....this forum is cluttered with the same thread worded differently.
                            2nd both of those points. Some of those things you call deal-breakers barely go noticed by others. I'm loving this game, even if it has some rough edges. I think the lack of a functioning Injured Reserve (for Franchise) is the closest thing to a game-breaker, followed by some of the stat tracking stuff. Some of the gameplay issues will be patched, or are annoying at worst. There's some workarounds for other problems, in the meantime.

                            Also, we ge all these "opinion" threads on this site, and that really isn't what a thread should be for. If it's a minor glitch (like a tackle having a seizure once every 900 plays), it should go in the bugs & glitches thread. Something more major (where a lot of community feedback is desired), like entire results being lost for the online franchise, that should have its own thread and should be easy to locate. I feel like I'm reading 300 different blogs everytime a thread is posted.

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                            • StormJH1
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 1228

                              #15
                              Re: Let's Not Give Up on Madden 10 Yet, But....

                              Originally posted by Ruffy


                              Nah the people who are enjoying the game don't bother to post about it.
                              Exactly. You guys are nuts if you think the MAJORITY of Madden gamers are disappointed by this game. 80% to 90% of the people who buy it either don't ask questions, or simply read a 9.0 from IGN, buy it, and then love it.

                              Even a lot of the hardcore followers (which I would like to consider myself, to a moderate degree) find themselves enjoying a Madden game for the first time in years. Sure, there are things to fix, and we'll sort that out here (with devs hopefully paying attention). But you know this site has jumped the shark when you keep reading things like "Man, the lack of accurate field degradation really convinced me that I wasted my 60 dollars."

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