NHL 10 Blog: EASHL Championships - Purple Cobraz vs The Regulators w/ Lots of Videos

[tgalv]

Re: NHL 10 Blog: EASHL Championships - Purple Cobraz vs The Regulators w/ Lots of Vid

Yes, a 6v6 only EASHL division would be awesome. But I can see where that would hit a snag with disconnects/quitting. Hopefully the search engine at least does a better job of matching up teams with a similar number of players in NHL10...

if they made a mode like that and people quit or disconnected, they could have a really crappy AI player take over. no having the AI take over for your jacked up dangler and have him be 10x more effective than the dweeb who left.

[Qb]

Re: NHL 10 Blog: EASHL Championships - Purple Cobraz vs The Regulators w/ Lots of Vid

if they made a mode like that and people quit or disconnected, they could have a really crappy AI player take over. no having the AI take over for your jacked up dangler and have him be 10x more effective than the dweeb who left.

Our team always had fun razzing the guy who was booted when "computer [insert name]" scored later in the game. Computer Scheib, are you out there?

[TheLetterZ]

Re: NHL 10 Blog: EASHL Championships - Purple Cobraz vs The Regulators w/ Lots of Vid

On a side note, The Purple Cobraz spanked us the only time we played them. We hung with them for a while, but one of our D-men got disconnected and they eventually worked us over to the tune of something like 8-1.

We had an AI goalie (not sure if they did or not, but they had human skaters), so once we were forced to one human D-man, they picked us apart with the cross-crease. I remember a lot frustration on the mics that game, as we couldn't adapt to having that damn AI guy fowling up our D-zone coverage. At that point (shortly after 2nd patch I believe), we had five guys who played together all the time and were playing quite well for about a month stretch post-patch. C'est la vie... (or something, I never took French)

I think I remember that game. We lost a defenseman - I think it was Millennium - near the end of the first period when we were already down by a goal, and after that they just destroyed us with the cross-crease pass.

[kerosene31]

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I think all of the goals were scored from the hash marks in

That, and also almost always from a wide position. The realistic scoring area would of course be the slot, but in the EASHL it was all from the side of the net. Cross crease or picking a corner from an impossible angle.

When playing D in the EASHL, you actually wanted to do the exact opposite of real hockey. You wanted to push the guy towards the middle, because there he wouldn't score.

Once the early cheese goals were patched out, the slot became a dead zone for scoring. People who get the puck in what should be prime scoring areas are passing or circling back.

So many teams just never, ever tried to score from there. Sure, it was possible, but the teams that tried to play real hockey got spanked by teams like this most of the time.

In NHL10 with the D and goalies preventing the cross crease, this should get better, but hopefully all of the side net "weirdness" is gone as well.

[steveeee]

Re: NHL 10 Blog: EASHL Championships - Purple Cobraz vs The Regulators w/ Lots of Vid

lol

my gosh.. some peopoe in this thread talking about glitch goals with these 2 teams in the finals do not have any clue of what they are talking about

there is no such thing as a glitch goal when you play 6 vs 6..

I play goalie in the EASHL and there is no such thing as me giving up a glitch goal..

both of these teams play excellent overall team defense from what I have seen.. and to even try to put down either team for glitching is just stupid and probably jealously of some sort...

btw.. I'm in the EASHL FL league and we play 6 vs 6 games every game in our league on PS3... it's not very hard to do.. if someone drops at the beginning we just disconnect and rematch

nothing beats the 6 v 6 NHL experience in any sports game... it's so enjoyable and intense... best gaming experience I have ever had honestly.. even going back to my NHL 94 genesis days. NHL 09 is one of the first sports games is a long time I played year round until the next one releases. the major reason for this is the EASHL.. EA deserves a lot of credit for this imo. It's the best thing going in any sports game and nothing comes close

[Redshirt_EA]

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That, and also almost always from a wide position. The realistic scoring area would of course be the slot, but in the EASHL it was all from the side of the net. Cross crease or picking a corner from an impossible angle.

When playing D in the EASHL, you actually wanted to do the exact opposite of real hockey. You wanted to push the guy towards the middle, because there he wouldn't score.

Once the early cheese goals were patched out, the slot became a dead zone for scoring. People who get the puck in what should be prime scoring areas are passing or circling back.

So many teams just never, ever tried to score from there. Sure, it was possible, but the teams that tried to play real hockey got spanked by teams like this most of the time.

In NHL10 with the D and goalies preventing the cross crease, this should get better, but hopefully all of the side net "weirdness" is gone as well.

Re-watching the recap video, I don't think that they were mostly from out wide. And I should take back the "no point shots" comment, the goal at about 2:00 was from a rebound off a point shot. All in all I'm pretty happy with the style of hockey the two champion teams played.

[bcgudely]

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I have to agree with the camp that's impressed with how realistic the EASHL championship games looked. Perfect simulations of real hockey? Of course not. However, if you've seen any sports games played at a high level, you'd know that none of them ever represent the real sport. It always degenerates into something completely boring that's all based around some glitch or money play.

I thought that this looked really good for being EA's first try at something as innovative as the EASHL. I'm very surprised at how well it held up at the highest level of play.

[jyoung]

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I wanted to up the minimum number of humans for EASHL too, but didn't win that argument. Maybe we need a poll to see what people want. I suspect the majority of responses will agree the number should be higher, the problem is that the stats show that the majority of man-games are played on two man teams.

My interpretation of this is that it is just easier to coordinate to play with just two and a lot of people either don't want to play with strangers or can't be bothered to go out and find more players. Either way I think it'd be better if they were forced to do so, the game is just so much more fun with all human players.

You are 100% correct with your interpretation.

Too bad you lost the argument.

The more human players in the game, the more fun it is overall and the less chances there are for cheesing/glitching.

[Qb]

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there is no such thing as a glitch goal when you play 6 vs 6..

I play goalie in the EASHL and there is no such thing as me giving up a glitch goal..

For the most part, I agree. I've also been playing in 6v6 only league over the past month or so, and while there are a few quirks in the game -- goalies sticking to post, RB slapper/deflection, crazy backhand goalline passes, etc -- that can be taken advantage of even with all human players, the elimination of AI players/goalies greatly reduces any opportunity for "glitching". On top of that, some of the things that still can be frustrating appear to be remedied in NHL10 -- better goalie controls/animations, less pass assist, better puck physics.

When it comes down to it, playing 6v6 hockey has got to be the best virtual sports experience out there. Can't wait to see what it will be like with the improvements...

[kerosene31]

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Hopefully just the better puck physics and more rebounds around the net in 10 will give us a lot more variety in goal scoring.

If players get rewarded for plays like that more, they will actually start using them. Those worked great in 09, but were still too low percentage.

For me, the frustration in 09 was that most other goal scoring opportunities were just too low percentage. My EASHL team was nothing great, but we were ok. We'd generate lots of scoring chances on teams, but get few goals. I imagine this is why so many teams went towards the glitches.

[RealmK]

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Hopefully just the better puck physics and more rebounds around the net in 10 will give us a lot more variety in goal scoring.

If players get rewarded for plays like that more, they will actually start using them. Those worked great in 09, but were still too low percentage.

For me, the frustration in 09 was that most other goal scoring opportunities were just too low percentage. My EASHL team was nothing great, but we were ok. We'd generate lots of scoring chances on teams, but get few goals. I imagine this is why so many teams went towards the glitches.

I would think so kerosene, I would think the less suction in regards to goaltenders alone will make a huge difference for goal variety,

[Qb]

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I think I remember that game. We lost a defenseman - I think it was Millennium - near the end of the first period when we were already down by a goal, and after that they just destroyed us with the cross-crease pass.

That sounds about right. I thought that was our original 5-man crew, but it sounds like you, Mill & Skerik were in on the fun. It would have been interesting to see the result if we didn't lose a D-man. I imagine they would have beat us since we didn't get much of anything going offensively -- our only goal was a garbage one in the dying minutes if I remember correctly -- but I bet it would've been a lot closer than 8-1.

The fact that I can remember this much about a 30 minute game of virtual hockey says something. Either I'm the biggest geek around or this can be one hell of a fun game under the right circumstances...

[steveeee]

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For the most part, I agree. I've also been playing in 6v6 only league over the past month or so, and while there are a few quirks in the game -- goalies sticking to post, RB slapper/deflection, crazy backhand goalline passes, etc -- that can be taken advantage of even with all human players, the elimination of AI players/goalies greatly reduces any opportunity for "glitching". On top of that, some of the things that still can be frustrating appear to be remedied in NHL10 -- better goalie controls/animations, less pass assist, better puck physics.

When it comes down to it, playing 6v6 hockey has got to be the best virtual sports experience out there. Can't wait to see what it will be like with the improvements...

well said.. I agree


can't wait for NHL 10

[tgalv]

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I have to agree with the camp that's impressed with how realistic the EASHL championship games looked. Perfect simulations of real hockey? Of course not. However, if you've seen any sports games played at a high level, you'd know that none of them ever represent the real sport. It always degenerates into something completely boring that's all based around some glitch or money play.

I thought that this looked really good for being EA's first try at something as innovative as the EASHL. I'm very surprised at how well it held up at the highest level of play.

yep. ea and redshirt deserve all the credit for giving a full team of human players the proper tools needed to defend against anything too outrageous.

unfortunately the horrible match up system and overall eashl setup completely undercut that positive by making 6v6 games a rarity. after 10 minutes of queuing over and over again having 2-3 man teams quit on out you felt relieved to finally get started on some crappy half AI filled player game.