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  • Eddie1967
    Against The Crowd!
    • Aug 2005
    • 2406

    #196
    Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

    After playing the demo for a few hours the A.I. seems to be very challenging. I also like how my d men put themselves in great position to stop goals when I'm just running around trying to lay out the CPU players. There is no way you can just skate up and down the ice in this game. I really had to make good passes and cycle the puck around to get a clear shot on the goalie. I still don't feel a real difference in individual players just yet. I really dislike the after the whistle scrums which are a bit arcadish IMHO.
    I could see it happening for a few seconds but it goes on for way too long IMO. The passing was hard but in a good way. I still have to get used to shooting with the skill stick (haven't scored a goal yet). One thing I'm not feeling is the animations of the players, and that includes the goalies. They all have this hunched over look that will take sometime to get used to. The way the players move and react just doesn't seem natural to me. All of the animations aren't bad but the majority seem too robotic to me.

    I am definitely not impressed with the in game presentation. After watching those IGN videos yesterday I thought that the look and sounds of the game were really good, but after playing the demo, I can see why I prefer 2k's brand in the presentation dept. The crowd doesn't seem loud enough for my liking, although I did hear some MVP chants which was nice but not enough to call it anything other than okay. I saw the the players catching the puck and putting it down and other little things but stuff like that doesn't impress since it was already in 2k's game. It's not a bad game by any means, but I feel it needs to have more personality to keep me interested. Hopefully more time with it will lead me to discover new things that will change my mind.

    It's hard coming from one hockey game to another so I'm sure I will have to be patient.
    Originally posted by jim416
    You are the 2k Police. :)

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    • Redshirt_EA
      NHL 13 Developer
      • Jan 2009
      • 575

      #197
      Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

      Originally posted by akula
      ea needs to see this.. hardcore mode isnt very hardcore considering you cant make hard passes without waiting for it to charge up! is this an oversight or is there a fix in the works? hmm.. i like the idea of controlling pass speed but this sure is one NASTY side effect redshirt?
      You could try turning the Manual Passing option off and leaving Pass Assist at the minimum level. Then the power will not be on the duration of the press.

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      • kellkasey
        Rookie
        • Dec 2005
        • 98

        #198
        Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

        I'll be very surprised if it's late September and I haven't declared this the best sports game I ever played.

        I've played NHL09 more than any game in my life--I usually tire of games within a few weeks--and NHL10 (even if it only improves by a SMALL SMALL margin) should be the best sports game we ever played.

        From what we've heard, it has a bunch of new additions and it seems improved over last year...and last yr it was widely considered the best sports game of the yr. The guys who put NHL together keep getting better and better ever since NHL2k strongly challenged them.

        If ever there was an example of why "competition" is great for the sports gaming industry, this is it. I wouldn't touch EA NHL for 2 or 3 years there because NHL2k was lightyears better. Last year, I bought both games and returned 2k within a week.

        These guys really care about the product they put out there and it shows. The new physics and additions in the demo look great and I cant wait until the game hits store shelves. I've said "WOW" while playing the demo like once per period...and I've played the demo probably 10 times over the course of the past day.
        Last edited by kellkasey; 08-20-2009, 09:37 PM.

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        • RealmK
          Banned
          • Sep 2003
          • 4198

          #199
          Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

          Originally posted by onlybygrace
          Realm...did you mean to say that the saucer passes are harder on hardcore???

          Gonna go play some more...
          I meant more along the lines that you don't have to wind them up so to speak. Personally I'm fine with the passing, I figure with a few tweaks once we get the full version it'll be close to perfect. Honestly I have only one real complaint and thats with the cpu passing being still too tape to tape but again, thats something sliders will help to alleviate at the very least. The game feels like hockey, the board play implimentation is spot on, the puck physics are vastly improved and the AI does a fantastic job at bottling you up in your own end by playing good positional hockey through the neutral zone. Its no longer an end to end game by any stretch. I also love that its difficult to score, that I need to get a tender moving and out of position, or beat him on a rebound, deflection etc. But on the other end of the spectrum I still score clean goals be it slappers from the point, or a hard snap shot from the top of the circle that the tender misjudged etc.

          I also love all the little neuances, hats being thrown on the ice for hat tricks. Guys swatting at pucks in the air or gloving them down. A player taking a solid hard hit, getting shaken up and slowly making his way back to the bench. Tenders being able to branch into animations to swat a puck away thats gotten behind them. That stars feel like alot more like star players and 3rd and 4th liners are able to do their jobs and grind it out or be a physical presence when appropiate. Varried penalties and having more animations for them, hooking calls for example don't always consist of a guy getting hauled down, sometimes its barely even a tug and it gets called, double minors, majors, coincidental calls etc. The fighting is growing on me as well.

          For those guys that are complaining "oh its just like 09 I'm not impressed hurr hurr hurr" well what did you expect? The're continuing to build on what was already a solid foundation. The game isn't going to completely change every year just for the sake of looking different. The boardplay alone makes the game play so much more authentic, add that with all the other additions like precision passing, new tender AI and animations etc etc, and like someone mentioned earlier in the thread, yes NHL10 is the MLB The Show of hockey games as far as I'm concerned.

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          • bcgudely
            Rookie
            • Nov 2008
            • 175

            #200
            Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

            This game is 110% f*cking incredible. Best sports game I've ever played hands down. Wow, what an improvement over 09. I cannot stop playing the Battle for the Cup game over.. and over and over. If I'm ahead by 1 at the end of regulation, I pull osgood to go to OT lol!

            If you don't like this game, sure you have a right to your opinion. You just have poor taste.:wink:

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            • RealmK
              Banned
              • Sep 2003
              • 4198

              #201
              Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

              Originally posted by Eddie1967
              I am definitely not impressed with the in game presentation. After watching those IGN videos yesterday I thought that the look and sounds of the game were really good, but after playing the demo, I can see why I prefer 2k's brand in the presentation dept. The crowd doesn't seem loud enough for my liking, although I did hear some MVP chants which was nice but not enough to call it anything other than okay. I saw the the players catching the puck and putting it down and other little things but stuff like that doesn't impress since it was already in 2k's game. It's not a bad game by any means, but I feel it needs to have more personality to keep me interested. Hopefully more time with it will lead me to discover new things that will change my mind.

              It's hard coming from one hockey game to another so I'm sure I will have to be patient.
              Presentation is so much more than some flashy intros and good looking arenas. The crowd sounds great and look great with glass bangers, properly reacting to the play going on around them etc. not sure what you're even talking about there. Not to mention Thorne and Clement's commentary and especially their delivery puts what 2k has to offer in their game to shame.

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              • Scottdau
                Banned
                • Feb 2003
                • 32580

                #202
                Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                I like it. Dauer is a beast! But I get ****ing drafted by the KINGS. OUCH! I made a sweet *** goal to start off the game. And got an A+ for 0fense and D for Defense. That is about right. I am scorer, I was like A.O. out there. The thing that is very ugly is when you are in the Penalty box that view looks terrible. It looks so fake. It takes away a lot from the game. And when they take their hats off during the celebration shake. The faces and heads look weird. Presentation is lame! But the gameplay is smooth!

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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #203
                  Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                  Originally posted by RealmK
                  Presentation is so much more than some flashy intros and good looking arenas. The crowd sounds great and look great with glass bangers, properly reacting to the play going on around them etc. not sure what you're even talking about there. Not to mention Thorne and Clement's commentary and especially their delivery puts what 2k has to offer in their game to shame.
                  Disgree big time that is so weak. When I score a goal I want to see more celebration. I was not impress with that at all. 2k wins hand down in that department to me.

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                  • RealmK
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 4198

                    #204
                    Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                    Originally posted by Scottdau
                    Disgree big time that is so weak. When I score a goal I want to see more celebration. I was not impress with that at all. 2k wins hand down in that department to me.
                    Lets not turn this into an EA vs 2k thread but if you perfer weaksauce herky jerky realtime celebrations all the more power to ya.

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                    • Eddie1967
                      Against The Crowd!
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 2406

                      #205
                      Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                      Originally posted by RealmK
                      Presentation is so much more than some flashy intros and good looking arenas. The crowd sounds great and look great with glass bangers, properly reacting to the play going on around them etc. not sure what you're even talking about there. Not to mention Thorne and Clement's commentary and especially their delivery puts what 2k has to offer in their game to shame.
                      I'm not saying it's awful, but I think 2k9's was better and we have already seen glimpses of the 2k10's improved presentation. Your idea and my idea of presentation are two totally different things and that's cool. I'll give you the delivery for Thorne and Clement but I don't think the commentary is any better than Randy Hahn and Drew Remenda in 2k9.
                      Originally posted by jim416
                      You are the 2k Police. :)

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                      • Eddie1967
                        Against The Crowd!
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 2406

                        #206
                        Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                        Originally posted by RealmK
                        Lets not turn this into an EA vs 2k thread but if you perfer weaksauce herky jerky realtime celebrations all the more power to ya.
                        Your the only one doing that, some of us are just giving our opinions and comparing it to the game we play. Allow us to do that without getting all sensitive and turning this into something it isn't. Not everyone feels the same way you do, go figure.
                        Originally posted by jim416
                        You are the 2k Police. :)

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                        • Scottdau
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 32580

                          #207
                          Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                          Originally posted by RealmK
                          Lets not turn this into an EA vs 2k thread but if you perfer weaksauce herky jerky realtime celebrations all the more power to ya.
                          You starter it, but I agree. I will just say I disagree. I like everything else about the game. I will have fun playing be a pro mode.

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                          • RealmK
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 4198

                            #208
                            Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                            Originally posted by Eddie1967
                            Your the only one doing that, some of us are just giving our opinions and comparing it to the game we play. Allow us to do that without getting all sensitive and turning this into something it isn't. Not everyone feels the same way you do, go figure.
                            ...lol now I've seen everything.

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                            • MizzouRah
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 8575

                              #209
                              Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                              I feel bad for my copies of Madden and NCAA.. this game is going to be a classic.. and get most of my free playing time.

                              Even on pro default the game has grown leaps and bounds imho.. I loved 2k's board play, but EA nailed it and it flows so nicely. Game is definitely "organic" and the atmosphere is really intense. Camera seems a bit closer to the ice and I love that.

                              Goalies have a bunch of new animations and I actually like the fighting.

                              This game can't come soon enough!!!

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                              • Scottdau
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 32580

                                #210
                                Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                                Originally posted by RealmK
                                Lets not turn this into an EA vs 2k thread but if you perfer weaksauce herky jerky realtime celebrations all the more power to ya.
                                Hey now don't steal my phrase. Herky Jerky is my word. I made that up, not you.

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