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  • Spanky
    MVP
    • Nov 2002
    • 2785

    #241
    Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

    Originally posted by gbx34
    Am i the only one who hate "sliders" to death. I mean if you have to mess with those then game is just not good.

    I just don't like dealing with them.
    Are you freaking kidding me? That is just plain stupid.

    You expect everybody to have the same skill level?

    You expect everybody to like the same kind of game play?

    Sliders allow us to customize the game to our liking. Some like wide-open, high-scoring games. Some like low-scoring, tight-checking games. Some like fast passes, some like slow passes. Some like quick, accurate one-timers, some don't.

    Don't give these companies any ideas. The next you know, like Madden 09, they'll remove CPU sliders.
    It's on me. I shook his hand too hard. It was a hard ... kind of a slap-shake.

    "What? You can't challenge a scoring play?''

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    • RealmK
      Banned
      • Sep 2003
      • 4198

      #242
      Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

      Originally posted by Scottdau
      I second that!
      Scott, as much as I'd like to see more overlays and the like next year, if you're expecting real time celebrations like 2k (why I don't know, I think 2k's goal celebrations flat out blow)I think you're going to be disappointed next year too.

      At any rate I stand by my earlier observation, this is EA's version of NHL2k3, hell in some aspects its much better than NHL2k3.

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      • Scottdau
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 32580

        #243
        Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

        Originally posted by RealmK
        Scott, as much as I'd like to see more overlays and the like next year, if you're expecting real time celebrations like 2k (why I don't know, I think 2k's goal celebrations flat out blow)I think you're going to be disappointed next year too.

        At any rate I stand by my earlier observation, this is EA's version of NHL2k3, hell in some aspects its much better than NHL2k3.
        Then I will stick with the other game. When I scored a goal at the tank it was just like it was in real life. That goes a long way with me. I think next year they will go all out. I am not talking about real time. I am talking more cut screens and more celebration. That is all I want.

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        • onlybygrace
          MVP
          • Jan 2009
          • 3784

          #244
          Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

          Originally posted by RealmK
          Scott, as much as I'd like to see more overlays and the like next year, if you're expecting real time celebrations like 2k (why I don't know, I think 2k's goal celebrations flat out blow)I think you're going to be disappointed next year too.

          At any rate I stand by my earlier observation, this is EA's version of NHL2k3, hell in some aspects its much better than NHL2k3.
          Its better in many many aspects...for sure.

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          • RealmK
            Banned
            • Sep 2003
            • 4198

            #245
            Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

            Originally posted by Scottdau
            Then I will stick with the other game. When I scored a goal at the tank it was just like it was in real life. That goes a long way with me. I think next year they will go all out. I am not talking about real time. I am talking more cut screens and more celebration. That is all I want.
            Take the time to add custom soundtracks and use the actual real goal songs and its pretty much the same. I'll give that 2k's arena's have more differentation and thats a cool thing but its really the only thing 2k9 had over 09. I can deal with generic looking arenas for another year considering how much the actual gameplay itself has improved 10 fold.

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            • onlybygrace
              MVP
              • Jan 2009
              • 3784

              #246
              Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

              After about 4 or so hours with the demo...here are my impressions.
              All Played On Hardcore/Pro...not BAP, although I played one game of that and found it to be much improved as well.

              1. Sliders

              The sliders in this game are simply astounding. The biggest question is if they will be effective, particularly the passing accuracy sliders for the CPU as tape-to-tape passings are the norm. This may be the best playing game "pre-sliders" ever released. Did you know they've customized the game to where you can play any difficulty level with any game style, including playing Hardcore with the precision passing turned off.
              ALSO...maybe the best news is the Attributes Effect Slider which Redshirt confirmed to me in a thread I started on OS maximizes the effect attributes have on how each player plays...and its only about 1/2 full on the demo.

              2. The Skating

              Perfect??? Of course not. BUT...it is so much better that I was expecting with the players having SO MUCH more weight which has stopped them from turning on a dime...which was the most unrealistic thing about the game from the gameplay vids we'd seen until now.

              3. The AI

              The AI for both the CPU and the HUM team are much improved this year. This is a big deal for me since it is really the reason I didn't even play 09 more than a month.

              4. Goal Variety

              I've scored several different ways including point shots, which is always a good sign regarding goal variety.

              5. Hardcore Passing

              This one is touchy. I really like it, but the sliders will really help a lot. For instance, tic tac toe passing is almost impossible right now. Nuff said. Turning up the passing speed should vary the speed enough to put some zip on that second or third pass.

              6. Awesome Moments

              If you play this game in a realistic manner, it blossoms before like a rose with so many moments where I wish I could look at a replay, but alas there is none till we get the game.

              7. Player Differentiation

              I gotta say, Malkin is a beast in this game. I really enjoy how the scrubs are pretty impotent offensively while the skill players are able to create something outta nothing. This was crucial and should really only get better once we can max out that Attribute Effect slider. I've had one guy try to bat the puck outta mid air...and that was Crosby...seems right to me.

              8. Non-Scripted Gameplay

              When I have a lead, I don't ever see the CPU come at me like a swarm of bees...causing me to FEEL like I'm battling in vein.
              There are many more things this game has going for it, but these are just a few of the ones I could think of off the top of my head.

              Not to mention the boarding...

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              • Scottdau
                Banned
                • Feb 2003
                • 32580

                #247
                Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                Originally posted by RealmK
                Take the time to add custom soundtracks and use the actual real goal songs and its pretty much the same. I'll give that 2k's arena's have more differentation and thats a cool thing but its really the only thing 2k9 had over 09. I can deal with generic looking arenas for another year considering how much the actual gameplay itself has improved 10 fold.
                Sweet, I am glad that work for you. It doesn't quite cut it for me. But be a pro mode is fun and Dauer will be A.0. of hockey.

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                • Panther84
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 359

                  #248
                  Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                  Great demo so far but i dont understand how EA wanted to get the playoff atmosphere yet the red wings goal horn is way off. Hopefully they let us import our own custom horns this yr

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                  • WalkMan99
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 114

                    #249
                    Re: NHL 10 Demo Impressions

                    Yeh, I Can't wait to but it looks like many sports gamers are dissapointed with NHL 10 and are looking to return to NHL 09. Looks like the same game, just new rosters. I'm not sure if I will waste my money on NHL 10 this season....looking to buy NBA 2K10 instead

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                    • RealmK
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 4198

                      #250
                      Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                      Originally posted by plaidchuck
                      Hey I had a question for those playing the demo about a feature not mentioned yet I believe. Shooting loose pucks without having possession. Anybody do it? I haven't seen it in any of the demo videos posted.
                      Its there. As is batting pucks away from your own goal or batting pucks on rebound chances as well.

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                      • StatMan79
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 235

                        #251
                        Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                        Be A Pro is going to be sick amounts of fun this year... That is provided the AI GM of the team doesn't go thoroughly ******** with jerking you around between the AHL and NHL.

                        The BAP game I played tonight was very satisfying including scoring a goal off a fat rebound. I enjoyed the added touch to the organist playing for the announcement of the 3 stars of the game. Subtle, noticeable and awesome.

                        I have a feeling that stirring up trouble after whistles is going to become everyone's favorite pastime.

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                        • sroz39
                          The Man!
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2802

                          #252
                          Re: NHL 10 Demo Impressions

                          Originally posted by WalkMan99
                          Yeh, I Can't wait to but it looks like many sports gamers are dissapointed with NHL 10 and are looking to return to NHL 09. Looks like the same game, just new rosters. I'm not sure if I will waste my money on NHL 10 this season....looking to buy NBA 2K10 instead
                          Not sure what forums this opinion is based off of, but I imagine you couldn't be referring to the overwhelming praise that the demo is getting on OS.

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                          • Redshirt_EA
                            NHL 13 Developer
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 575

                            #253
                            Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                            Originally posted by Spanky
                            Are you freaking kidding me? That is just plain stupid.

                            You expect everybody to have the same skill level?

                            You expect everybody to like the same kind of game play?

                            Sliders allow us to customize the game to our liking. Some like wide-open, high-scoring games. Some like low-scoring, tight-checking games. Some like fast passes, some like slow passes. Some like quick, accurate one-timers, some don't.

                            Don't give these companies any ideas. The next you know, like Madden 09, they'll remove CPU sliders.
                            My thoughts exactly... well, almost. I have some sympathy with the original post because when I joined NHL I thought it had too many sliders too. I didn't mind them for playing against the CPU, but when playing against another person you kind of want to know you are playing the sanctified, official version. I was also concerned that the sliders sometimes get used as an excuse for developers not to put enough effort into tuning the game because they feel they've got their bases covered (when in reality only a small percentage of players will ever touch them). If that is the concern I can assure that we spent a lot of time tuning the defaults to what we think plays the best and what the majority of people will like.
                            Last edited by Redshirt_EA; 08-21-2009, 05:44 AM.

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                            • NoSkillz50
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 2267

                              #254
                              Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                              they seemed to have taken out those terrible lofty dump ins which is good.

                              the board play is good, but u can pin people to the board from bad angles though without getting holding calls. not that i want to see a holding call everytime somebody tries to pin somebody they have no leverage on, but you shouldn't be able to stop people dead in their tracks without proper position.

                              love the passing. the rebounds feel right.

                              what's the deal with the preset sliders? will the eashl use default?

                              i'm kind of angry that hardcore sliders have the speed set lower. i think it is realistic, but it's almost like the developers are confirming that the game plays too fast out of the box, so i hope that the eashly uses the "realistic"/hardcore slider set. i want a complete sim experience online or off, i think most people that realy care do, it's kind of annoying when games consciously cater to casual gamers at the cost of realism.

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                              • Lubey
                                Pro
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 527

                                #255
                                Re: NHL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                                Originally posted by NoSkillz50
                                they seemed to have taken out those terrible lofty dump ins which is good.

                                the board play is good, but u can pin people to the board from bad angles though without getting holding calls. not that i want to see a holding call everytime somebody tries to pin somebody they have no leverage on, but you shouldn't be able to stop people dead in their tracks without proper position.

                                love the passing. the rebounds feel right.

                                what's the deal with the preset sliders? will the eashl use default?

                                i'm kind of angry that hardcore sliders have the speed set lower. i think it is realistic, but it's almost like the developers are confirming that the game plays too fast out of the box, so i hope that the eashly uses the "realistic"/hardcore slider set. i want a complete sim experience online or off, i think most people that realy care do, it's kind of annoying when games consciously cater to casual gamers at the cost of realism.
                                Online will use the 'Normal' gamestyle.

                                At least they offer the hardcore style this year. If they made a game strictly for realist junkies, it wouldn't sell as well. This is the first game that's ever offered a style this realistic. I know I'm grateful for it.

                                Redshirt said it well in another thread. To sum it up, Redshirt said they tried the hardcore settings in EASHL and it was a gongshow. No one could do anything because it was too hard.

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