what does 2k have to do with Madden not being a great game, and its gameplay feeling old and boring as was posted? If Madden fails, it did it on its own, there arent any other football games to compare it with.......oh, were you speaking of a 2005 game? Funny, are we still that behind with Madden. Give the 2k talk a rest, Maddens judged on itself now....and still hasnt met 2010 standards. Madden 2010 should have been like this back in 2006/2007. I dont even want to stress how far behind it is with other sport games.