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Quote: Originally Posted by Eddie1967

Your still confused I see. Speculating on whether a game will fold because it doesn't put out a demo or because it's not someone's cup of tea is just plain idiotic. My point was that the demo won't make or break the game sales for many fans and just because you and your buddies go gaga over a demo release and then turn around and lose your mind when a company says they won't release one doesn't mean that other people outside of this little group feel that way. I'm actually glad it wasn't released, just so we wouldn't have the mindless ripping of the demo for not having options that you still wouldn't get in other demos. Nice try, but your still way behind. Not sure why so many are concerned about 2k sales when they have no intention of buying the game in the first place. Who cares, if no game ever puts out another demo people will still rent and/or buy the game.

First off, if you're not mature enough to have a discussion without trying to insult someone with another viewpoint then I suggest you put me on ignore. Or be a man and take it to a PM.

I am not confused one bit. I know how marketing works, and also realize how the lack of a demo can impact sales. All you need to do is actually read some of the posts in this thread to prove my point.

"Me and my buddies" should certainly be able to post our opinions in a discussion forum. Sorry if you can't deal with that. Perhaps the "ignore" button is your best option?

Negative feedback is not "mindless ripping". It's just an opinion that differs from yours. Ben Bishop has told me on several occasions that he values my feedback and feedback from others as it helps them make their game better. Perhaps you "are behind" as you can't seem to be able to grasp this concept.

I am concerned about 2k's sales as, unlike you, I will buy both hockey games as I feel competition is the only way either one will improve. Madden is a perfect example of how a lack of competition can impact quality.

You continually seem to have issues with anyone who doesn't look at 2k through the same rose-colored glasses that you do. I would feel remiss if I didn't once again recommend 2khockey.net for you as the 2-Kool Aid is always cold and you can bash EA freely until the cows come home.

So, in summary, I am someone who is buying both games. I am someone (unlike you) who has done this for the past 8 years now. I present the good and bad of each game so that the developers can take this mature, constructive feedback and improve the game.