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  • RealmK
    Banned
    • Sep 2003
    • 4198

    #106
    Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

    Originally posted by Eddie1967
    Another good looking video. I'm so glad that my main issue with game play seems to be fixed and that's the cpu defensemen. They all look to be in pretty good position and not playing catch up all the time like 2k9. The animations are the best to date in any game I have seen. Like seeing the ref flatten himself against the boards to get out of the way. Puck movement is very nice and the CPU seems super aggressive. Very well done.

    Also liked seeing the flyers shoot it off the boards. What a thing of beauty watching them cycle the puck before getting a shot off. The more I see, the more I like.
    Except there's ZERO neutral zone pressure or standing up at the blue line and the defensive AI once it turns the puck over retreats to the net. I'll agree positioning is improved but its still pretty easy to see 2k10 still leans more to the arcade side of end to end fast hockey rather than actually returning to its 2k-2k3 sim roots.

    The way WWTC was playing was pretty suspect to begin with, passing up scoring chances left and right and consistantly taking himself out of position defensively made it almost look like he was trying to give the AI scoring chances for the sake of saying the offensive AI is improved.

    On the whole its better than 2k9, unfortunately not by much.

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    • original6
      Pro
      • Mar 2003
      • 675

      #107
      Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

      Some nice highlights in that period. I really liked the Briere goal where he carries the puck into the zone while criss-crossing with his teammate. Then he uses the defender as a screen and nets a hard shot. It's very rare if ever that I've seen or noticed a cpu teammate peform a criss-cross at the blue line.

      More fantastic cpu cycling.

      Lots of incidental contact and collisions, as well as puck/player separation.

      I'd really like to know what the slider and gameplay settings were so that we could see how they produced what we saw.

      For me, the effectiveness of the sliders will be the biggest determining factor as to whether or not the game will be great.

      Kudos to the graphics team (Heather, I think) for really bringing 2k10 up to next-gen standards.

      Oh, and still not really digging the goalies.
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      • Scottdau
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 32580

        #108
        Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

        Originally posted by original6
        Some nice highlights in that period. I really liked the Briere goal where he carries the puck into the zone while criss-crossing with his teammate. Then he uses the defender as a screen and nets a hard shot. It's very rare if ever that I've seen or noticed a cpu teammate peform a criss-cross at the blue line.

        More fantastic cpu cycling.

        Lots of incidental contact and collisions, as well as puck/player separation.

        I'd really like to know what the slider and gameplay settings were so that we could see how they produced what we saw.

        For me, the effectiveness of the sliders will be the biggest determining factor as to whether or not the game will be great.

        Kudos to the graphics team (Heather, I think) for really bringing 2k10 up to next-gen standards.

        Oh, and still not really digging the goalies.
        What is amazing about it to me is every period it played different. It felt like real hockey for that reason. Some times the other teams dominated one period and the other period is dominated by the other team. I am going to play this game Friday, I will see if I can to see if sliders really work well this year.

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        • original6
          Pro
          • Mar 2003
          • 675

          #109
          Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

          Originally posted by Scottdau
          What is amazing about it to me is every period it played different. It felt like real hockey for that reason. Some times the other teams dominated one period and the other period is dominated by the other team. I am going to play this game Friday, I will see if I can to see if sliders really work well this year.
          Really looking forward to some feedback about your hands-on experience!
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          • Scottdau
            Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 32580

            #110
            Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

            Originally posted by original6
            Really looking forward to some feedback about your hands-on experience!
            Yeah me too. I don't know how much they will let me touch the sliders. But I am hoping for Realm you can fix the D guy playing back. Also, I want to see what the goalies play like. But I like this game. I don't know why, but I just do. I like EA a lot too. But the presentation is what make this the game for me. hope if you get this game you come up with some sliders. I love your sliders over any ones that I have played with. Though I would love to see real stats for 20 minutes periods. They said you should be able to do that this year.

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            • original6
              Pro
              • Mar 2003
              • 675

              #111
              Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

              Originally posted by Scottdau
              Yeah me too. I don't know how much they will let me touch the sliders. But I am hoping for Realm you can fix the D guy playing back. Also, I want to see what the goalies play like. But I like this game. I don't know why, but I just do. I like EA a lot too. But the presentation is what make this the game for me. hope if you get this game you come up with some sliders. I love your sliders over any ones that I have played with. Though I would love to see real stats for 20 minutes periods. They said you should be able to do that this year.
              From what I've seen so far, along with the listed sliders, I really do think the game could be tweaked for realistic 20 minute periods.

              I too am very interested to find out how the goalies and defense can be adjusted through sliders. Hopefully you'll get the chance to do some tweaking.

              Definitely interested in more about the presentation, especially the team-specific intros. I'm surprised that we have seen anything yet, considering how much ballyhooing has been going on about them. I'd like to know if they actually do mimic the real intros, like Minnesota's kid skating to center ice with a flag on a hockey stick and planting it on the faceoff dot. Stuff like that we be awesome to see in a game.

              Overall, still very much on the fence with this game. I see a ton of potential for a great offline experience, despite some of the same awkward animations. Without the demo, it's impossible to get a feel for the controls to determine how skating and shooting respond, which really is discounting it as a release-day purchase right now. 2k really should set up something here in Minnesota at the Mall of America. Considering the huge interest in hockey here, I think it would go over big.
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              • CarryTheWeight
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 1792

                #112
                Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

                Originally posted by Sheabird68
                In 2K, they dont have final minute in real time, so like pulling the goalie in the last minute of EA, its the same as pulling it with 2 mins left in 2k. Just an explanation
                Wasn't there a "Last Minute Real Time" slider once upon a time? Or did that disappear in 2K8? I don't remember seeing it in 2K9 so maybe they removed it from the series entirely once VC took over...
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                • Eddie1967
                  Against The Crowd!
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 2405

                  #113
                  Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

                  Originally posted by RealmK
                  Except there's ZERO neutral zone pressure or standing up at the blue line and the defensive AI once it turns the puck over retreats to the net. I'll agree positioning is improved but its still pretty easy to see 2k10 still leans more to the arcade side of end to end fast hockey rather than actually returning to its 2k-2k3 sim roots.

                  The way WWTC was playing was pretty suspect to begin with, passing up scoring chances left and right and consistantly taking himself out of position defensively made it almost look like he was trying to give the AI scoring chances for the sake of saying the offensive AI is improved.

                  On the whole its better than 2k9, unfortunately not by much.
                  Agressiveness sliders should take care of that. I read what had to say WWTC on 2khockeynet and that's hardly what he was doing.
                  Originally posted by jim416
                  You are the 2k Police. :)

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                  • Scottdau
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 32580

                    #114
                    Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

                    Originally posted by original6
                    From what I've seen so far, along with the listed sliders, I really do think the game could be tweaked for realistic 20 minute periods.

                    I too am very interested to find out how the goalies and defense can be adjusted through sliders. Hopefully you'll get the chance to do some tweaking.

                    Definitely interested in more about the presentation, especially the team-specific intros. I'm surprised that we have seen anything yet, considering how much ballyhooing has been going on about them. I'd like to know if they actually do mimic the real intros, like Minnesota's kid skating to center ice with a flag on a hockey stick and planting it on the faceoff dot. Stuff like that we be awesome to see in a game.


                    Overall, still very much on the fence with this game. I see a ton of potential for a great offline experience, despite some of the same awkward animations. Without the demo, it's impossible to get a feel for the controls to determine how skating and shooting respond, which really is discounting it as a release-day purchase right now. 2k really should set up something here in Minnesota at the Mall of America. Considering the huge interest in hockey here, I think it would go over big.
                    I doubt they would have that, but I will ask. Also, there is potential for a good game here. IF the sliders do work. If they do I think we might have a 20 minute period in here somewhere. I will see how the controls work and see how responsive they are. I agree about the great mall. I am going to have to check that out some day. Maybe I can talk my dad or my friend in to going to a Vikings game in Minnesota.

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                    • savoie2006
                      R.I.P 2KHockey 2000-2011
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 4657

                      #115
                      Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

                      Originally posted by CarryTheWeight
                      Wasn't there a "Last Minute Real Time" slider once upon a time? Or did that disappear in 2K8? I don't remember seeing it in 2K9 so maybe they removed it from the series entirely once VC took over...
                      I think it was in 2K9 as well.
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                      • HeroWorship
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 627

                        #116
                        Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)
                        • The Player Models have improved from any NHL 2k game. The players look very real, and I have to give credit. The models in 2k9 were awful.
                        • I still think the skating looks akward at times. There were a few instances where they were literally skating into the boards.
                        • I like the cycling. You don't see much of that in video games, and for the A.I. to be doing that is simply phenominal
                        • The announcing is awful. Sounds very robotic and unnatural. Say what you want, but at least the EA series always did a decent job in this aspect. And no emotion for the goals either.
                        • The arena looks like the Verizon Center. Nicely done.
                        • The one-handed stickhandling is overused.
                        • The puck physics were iffy at times. But the breakouts looked very solid.


                        The game has a ton of potential, but the only way to give it a test is to rent it at your local Blockbuster. However, this does look better than NHL 2k9, and I believe this game still has a couple of years before catching up to EA in terms of sales and overall gameplay.

                        I loved the menu, and how it looked when you looked at team stats. Invoked some memories of the EA series for the Sega Genesis.

                        Also to note, while the A.I. was improved, their were some slips, such as when Randy Jones attempts a pass and Ovechkin was right next to him.

                        I'll give 2k a rental, and hopefully if they can pull me in, I can add another NHL 2k game to my collection.

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                        • Cardot
                          I'm not on InstantFace.
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 6164

                          #117
                          Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

                          Originally posted by CarryTheWeight
                          Wasn't there a "Last Minute Real Time" slider once upon a time? Or did that disappear in 2K8? I don't remember seeing it in 2K9 so maybe they removed it from the series entirely once VC took over...
                          It is nice to have the option. I know alot of people like the way the clock works in EA hockey, but not me. In '08, I didn't really like how the clock would speed up, then slow down for powerplays, then speed up if it was dumped the length of the ice, then slow down again, then speed up after the power play, then slow down in the last minute. Not sure if EA added the options for this last year??

                          I also like how 2K gives the option to set the real time of 2 minute penalties. That is real nice, especially if playing shorter periods.

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                          • Scottdau
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 32580

                            #118
                            Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

                            Originally posted by HeroWorship
                            • The Player Models have improved from any NHL 2k game. The players look very real, and I have to give credit. The models in 2k9 were awful.
                            • I still think the skating looks akward at times. There were a few instances where they were literally skating into the boards.
                            • I like the cycling. You don't see much of that in video games, and for the A.I. to be doing that is simply phenominal
                            • The announcing is awful. Sounds very robotic and unnatural. Say what you want, but at least the EA series always did a decent job in this aspect. And no emotion for the goals either.
                            • The arena looks like the Verizon Center. Nicely done.
                            • The one-handed stickhandling is overused.
                            • The puck physics were iffy at times. But the breakouts looked very solid.


                            The game has a ton of potential, but the only way to give it a test is to rent it at your local Blockbuster. However, this does look better than NHL 2k9, and I believe this game still has a couple of years before catching up to EA in terms of sales and overall gameplay.

                            I loved the menu, and how it looked when you looked at team stats. Invoked some memories of the EA series for the Sega Genesis.

                            Also to note, while the A.I. was improved, their were some slips, such as when Randy Jones attempts a pass and Ovechkin was right next to him.

                            I'll give 2k a rental, and hopefully if they can pull me in, I can add another NHL 2k game to my collection.
                            Great observations! I totally agree. Though I like the skating on a whole, you just see more weight in the skating.

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                            • Eddie1967
                              Against The Crowd!
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 2405

                              #119
                              Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

                              Originally posted by HeroWorship
                              • The Player Models have improved from any NHL 2k game. The players look very real, and I have to give credit. The models in 2k9 were awful.
                              • I still think the skating looks akward at times. There were a few instances where they were literally skating into the boards.
                              • I like the cycling. You don't see much of that in video games, and for the A.I. to be doing that is simply phenominal
                              • The announcing is awful. Sounds very robotic and unnatural. Say what you want, but at least the EA series always did a decent job in this aspect. And no emotion for the goals either.
                              • The arena looks like the Verizon Center. Nicely done.
                              • The one-handed stickhandling is overused.
                              • The puck physics were iffy at times. But the breakouts looked very solid.


                              The game has a ton of potential, but the only way to give it a test is to rent it at your local Blockbuster. However, this does look better than NHL 2k9, and I believe this game still has a couple of years before catching up to EA in terms of sales and overall gameplay.

                              I loved the menu, and how it looked when you looked at team stats. Invoked some memories of the EA series for the Sega Genesis.

                              Also to note, while the A.I. was improved, their were some slips, such as when Randy Jones attempts a pass and Ovechkin was right next to him.

                              I'll give 2k a rental, and hopefully if they can pull me in, I can add another NHL 2k game to my collection.

                              I agree with most of what you said, but I happen to like the announcing. The worst to me in any sport was NBA 2K9. Hopefully more folks will rent the game, because it's really the only way to know how much it has improved. You mentioned Blockbuster, but Hollywood video always has more copies of games to rent, at least in Northern Virginia.
                              Originally posted by jim416
                              You are the 2k Police. :)

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                              • nccomicfan
                                MVP
                                • May 2006
                                • 1530

                                #120
                                Re: NHL 2K10 Gameplay Video (2KHockey.net)

                                I have not bought a hockey title on this gen yet and was giving 2k10 consideration because of the price point ...gameplay looks more than sufficient but the...commentary...feels very...disjointed...and not at all something I think I'd enjoy

                                hate to beat the dead horse but I really needed a demo here

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