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  • Ninjoid
    MVP
    • Jan 2003
    • 2103

    #1

    NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

    I know this is premature but I get concerned as I'm a cpu v cpu 'player'. The last EA NHL game I bought was devoid of penalties and fighting when watching a cpu v cpu game. This was a couple of years ago.

    With the introduction of the new first person fighting engine I'm concerned that this will be the case again this year...how will this work for cpu v cpu, does it work for cpu v cpu?

    I'd be really grateful if anyone from EA that reads this, or indeed if Steve from OS (with his beta copy) could possibly check this out please. Maybe put on a cpu v cpu game and crank the penalties & fighting slider up and see what happens.

    I appreciate that I'm in the minority when it comes to cpu v cpu gameplay but that's how I and quite a few others enjoy the game.

    If anyone could check this out I'd be very grateful.
    Thanks.


    If this works then NHL 10 is looking good from a cpu v cpu perspective, especially with the addition of the multi team season, allowing us to choose any game to watch...fingers crossed penalties and fighting is ok.
    Dedicated member of the CPU v CPU worldwide brethren.
  • TIm
    MVP
    • Jun 2003
    • 2215

    #2
    Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

    Ninja,
    I'm not trying to be a jerk but what's the point of buying the game just so you can watch the computer play??? Enlighten me....

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    • Redshirt_EA
      NHL 13 Developer
      • Jan 2009
      • 575

      #3
      Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

      You'll be able to tune it to get penalties to happen often enough (Rules/Penalties, Gameplay/AI/CPU Penalties, Gameplay/Checking/CPU Aggression sliders all maxed out).

      Not sure about fights, I think they would be rare at best in a CPU/CPU game.

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      • armi5718
        Rookie
        • Sep 2008
        • 281

        #4
        Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

        Maybe in NHL 11 we can see more CPU fights. Sucks being the only person in Be A Pro fighting.
        Before I'd see him in Boulder, I'd see my son in Hell.

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        • Ninjoid
          MVP
          • Jan 2003
          • 2103

          #5
          Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

          Thanks Redshirt, appreciate your time to respond. Hopefully we can tweak this to our liking for this mode and sort the penalties, which from what you say look encouraging. I hear you about the fighting, guess we'll have to wait and see. I've just tried this with NHL 08 and the penalities and fights were there for cpu v cpu, given the new fighting engine this may be tricky but I guess time will tell. In 2k9 penalties and fighting were there, so it may come down again to who does this best, EA or 2K from a cpu v cpu point of view.

          TIm - everyone plays the game in their own way. Some of us aren't that good at playing the game (me included), must be my age. Personally I like the players ratings to have a say rather than me controlling the outcome, a little bit like real life where you just watch tv and have no controlling influence. I play all my games likes this, Madden, NCAA, The Show, NBA 2k etc

          It can also come down to time, some don't have the time to sit and play but would rather put a cpu v cpu game on in the background while jobbing around the house for example. I've been a cpu v cpu'er for a number of years, going back to the pc version, megadrive and early PS1.

          The game will get played in the 'normal' manner as my son will play it. It's a case of each to their own really, we all get enjoyment from different facets of the game, and in my case I like it to be as realistic as possible in cpu/cpu mode.
          Last edited by Ninjoid; 09-06-2009, 08:35 AM.
          Dedicated member of the CPU v CPU worldwide brethren.

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          • TIm
            MVP
            • Jun 2003
            • 2215

            #6
            Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

            Originally posted by Ninjoid
            Thanks Redshirt, appreciate your time to respond. Hopefully we can tweak this to our liking for this mode and sort the penalties, which from what you say look encouraging. I hear you about the fighting, guess we'll have to wait and see. I've just tried this with NHL 08 and the penalities and fights were there for cpu v cpu, given the new fighting engine this may be tricky but I guess time will tell. In 2k9 penalties and fighting were there, so it may come down again to who does this best, EA or 2K from a cpu v cpu point of view.

            TIm - everyone plays the game in their own way. Some of us aren't that good at playing the game (me included), must be my age. Personally I like the players ratings to have a say rather than me controlling the outcome, a little bit like real life where you just watch tv and have no controlling influence. I play all my games likes this, Madden, NCAA, The Show, NBA 2k etc

            It can also come down to time, some don't have the time to sit and play but would rather put a cpu v cpu game on in the background while jobbing around the house for example. I've been a cpu v cpu'er for a number of years, going back to the pc version, megadrive and early PS1.

            The game will get played in the 'normal' manner as my son will play it. It's a case of each to their own really, we all get enjoyment from different facets of the game, and in my case I like it to be as realistic as possible in cpu/cpu mode.
            That's actually pretty neat!! Like I said, I wasn't trying to be a jerk.. I just haven't heard of that before.. However, Might be something to consider when I start a franchise or something.. Thanks!!

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            • Steve_OS
              Editor-in-Chief
              • Jul 2002
              • 33092

              #7
              Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

              Originally posted by Redshirt_EA
              You'll be able to tune it to get penalties to happen often enough (Rules/Penalties, Gameplay/AI/CPU Penalties, Gameplay/Checking/CPU Aggression sliders all maxed out).

              Not sure about fights, I think they would be rare at best in a CPU/CPU game.
              Yup, the AI vs. AI games have plenty of penalties when cranked up. I'm just not allowed to show modified sliders at all, during gameplay videos. Per NDA.
              Steve Noah
              Editor-in-Chief
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              • Ninjoid
                MVP
                • Jan 2003
                • 2103

                #8
                Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

                Steve - thanks for the info about the penalties, hopefully there are some fights thrown in there as well! I've just got a bad feeling about the fighting given the new first person engine, like how will the cpu handle it against the cpu, if at all? If not then hopefully it's something EA can tweak in a patch, if possible.

                Tim - No probs, glad I enlightened you a little about it. I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea, and we each play the game in our own. My way is that with the addition of the multi player season I can now be my own tv director and pick any game from any side's schedule and watch it play out as cpu v cpu, with no influence from me.
                Dedicated member of the CPU v CPU worldwide brethren.

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                • onlybygrace
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3769

                  #9
                  Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

                  Originally posted by Ninjoid
                  Steve - thanks for the info about the penalties, hopefully there are some fights thrown in there as well! I've just got a bad feeling about the fighting given the new first person engine, like how will the cpu handle it against the cpu, if at all? If not then hopefully it's something EA can tweak in a patch, if possible.

                  Tim - No probs, glad I enlightened you a little about it. I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea, and we each play the game in our own. My way is that with the addition of the multi player season I can now be my own tv director and pick any game from any side's schedule and watch it play out as cpu v cpu, with no influence from me.
                  So Ninjoid...

                  Its kinda like having Eastside Hockey Manager, but being able to watch the games...

                  kewl.

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                  • Ninjoid
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2103

                    #10
                    Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

                    Originally posted by onlybygrace
                    So Ninjoid...

                    Its kinda like having Eastside Hockey Manager, but being able to watch the games...

                    kewl.
                    You got it...funnily enough I was an external tester for Eastside Hockey Manager for a number of years till it bit the dust. (which was a great shame), Riz did a great job with it.
                    Dedicated member of the CPU v CPU worldwide brethren.

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                    • johnnydrum
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 733

                      #11
                      Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

                      Hi Ninjod.
                      Sent you a message, hope thats this is ok.
                      Hiya mate! Greetings from Teeside!
                      As an older gamer--buying the NHL games every season since the 16 bit days--I am a stickler for details.
                      I was intrigued to read how you played the game--in its CPU vs CPU mode.

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                      • Ninjoid
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2103

                        #12
                        Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

                        No probs at all Johnny, I've replied back to you.

                        CPU v CPU has been with me since it all began really, can't explain it other than I'm so used to watching games on tv over the years that that is how I like to enjoy the games I get - having no influence on the outcome and sitting back to watch.

                        But the most important aspect of playing this way (as a lot of guys who do this will say) is that we have to have the ability to watch any game from any side's schedule...the years where the game only allows you to select one team and you're restricted to that team's games really kicks it into touch for the cpu v cpu'er.

                        With the return of the multiplayer season for NHL10 that means you can control all teams and therefore select any game - so that's one of the main reasons why I'm coming back to EA this year. I'll still be getting NHL 2k10 so it'll come down to which game plays the most realistically (in cpu v cpu mode)

                        Hope that helps anyway.
                        Dedicated member of the CPU v CPU worldwide brethren.

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                        • BrianE
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 15

                          #13
                          Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

                          Any chance we'd ever see a coach mode? I think it would be great to be able to adjust strategies, call for line changes etc. and watch the game in broadcast mode or from behind the bench.

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                          • Donovan
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 3354

                            #14
                            Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

                            Originally posted by BrianE
                            Any chance we'd ever see a coach mode? I think it would be great to be able to adjust strategies, call for line changes etc. and watch the game in broadcast mode or from behind the bench.
                            From Be a Pro to Be a GM to Be a Coach. I'm sure it will be there one day soon.

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                            • vejiita
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 18

                              #15
                              Re: NHL 10 - CPU v CPU, worries ahead of release

                              What I like when doing cpu vs cpu is that I feel more like the GM and not like some God controlling everything

                              I do the trades, signing and the like, but my players will earn their future contracts !

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