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  • Football4Natic
    Banned
    • Jul 2009
    • 747

    #1

    Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

    When I first got the game I was on slow and then thought that normal was the way to go because we were use to faster speed.

    It did not take more then a few games on normal to realize that slow is the best setting at that moment.

    I noticed that all the crazy easy sacks and broken run blocking were all enhance by the faster game speed of normal and higher

    For the last few weeks I have stuck to slow while I have been creating sliders. After tons of games on slow I decided to try my sliders that I am currently working on with very slow.

    Let me tell you that the game just plays incredible. The pocket is so much more realistic and you do not see as much suction and the run blocking is a lot more realistic.

    I have read some people say that they hate slow because it is to easy. but in terms of using sliders sliders the game is incredible in that setting.

    Throwing deep is much more realistic because of the adjustments you can make and the cpu run game is much better because of the blocks forming and you not able to just rush to the ball carriers with ease due to the higher speed of the game.

    it makes you play smarter. but the biggest plus is the pocket formation.

    And before you say that the nfl game is super fast. that is true but game speed in madden has nothing to do with that.

    have you ever heard of a qb or nfl player say that the game slows down for them after their rookie year.

    when you watch an nfl game you do not see super fast as the players see or feel when they are actually playing.

    when we watch on t.v the game looks slow and you can see everything developing.
  • trufootball
    Rookie
    • May 2009
    • 119

    #2
    Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

    I don't understand this it's so unrealistic. It literally looks like the game is in slo-motion...;because it is!

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    • Football4Natic
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      • Jul 2009
      • 747

      #3
      Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

      Originally posted by trufootball
      I don't understand this it's so unrealistic. It literally looks like the game is in slo-motion...;because it is!
      no it is not....ncaa football 10 is unrealistic because it is super fast.

      you are just use to super fast gameplay therefore you think this is super slow.

      nfl 2k football was always great in terms of game speed. it was never super fast like madden.

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      • TeamBuilder
        MVP
        • Jun 2009
        • 2214

        #4
        Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

        I'm going to try it, sounds fun.

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        • Flamehead
          Banned
          • Dec 2002
          • 1501

          #5
          Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

          While people have been discussing this in the thread below, I have to agree:

          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ame-speed.html

          I haven't decided yet what sliders I'll use, but if I don't find any that seem balanced, default all-pro at very slow is a GREAT default. And that speed setting doesn't seem that much different to me than slow for some reason.

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          • True Blue Titan
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            • Jul 2009
            • 429

            #6
            Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

            i dont care if the cpu ai is best there.

            the game is ridiculously slow and un playable

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            • Rocky
              All Star
              • Jul 2002
              • 6896

              #7
              Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

              To me, it even looks better.

              The player on very fast or fast do not look like human beings. They do not obey the laws of physics or emit reaction and thinking in anyway. At least the game speed of slow mimics a physics and reaction system that isn't in place.
              "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
              -Rocky Balboa

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              • Flamehead
                Banned
                • Dec 2002
                • 1501

                #8
                Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

                You know what's great though? The fact that this in an option in the game, and that we're discussing the merits of a given speed, rather than wondering why EA made it too fast, slow, whatever.

                User customization = win for everybody.

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                • Football4Natic
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                  • Jul 2009
                  • 747

                  #9
                  Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

                  Originally posted by True Blue Titan
                  i dont care if the cpu ai is best there.

                  the game is ridiculously slow and un playable
                  Is not for everybody. Some people like arcadish speed and some rather see plays develop like you see them on tv

                  But to me this has made the game a lot more realistic. is easier to cut back inside on runs to the outside because you can react better to blockers ahead of you. like running backs do with their vision.

                  in normal or above is all about hitting holes fast without no play development which leads to seeing a lot more broken blocks and unrealistic situations.

                  but hey...that is my opinion....some prefer fast

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                  • Football4Natic
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                    • Jul 2009
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                    #10
                    Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

                    Originally posted by Rocky
                    To me, it even looks better.

                    The player on very fast or fast do not look like human beings. They do not obey the laws of physics or emit reaction and thinking in anyway. At least the game speed of slow mimics a physics and reaction system that isn't in place.
                    excellent post

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                    • bigmoe
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 656

                      #11
                      Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

                      My 61 inch DLP "loses the signal " with jitters on very slow. Have to stick with slow or normal. Don't know if thats the game or the tv?

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                      • Tyrant8RDFL
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 3563

                        #12
                        Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

                        Originally posted by Football4Natic
                        no it is not....ncaa football 10 is unrealistic because it is super fast.

                        you are just use to super fast gameplay therefore you think this is super slow.

                        nfl 2k football was always great in terms of game speed. it was never super fast like madden.
                        OK here we go lets dis one game to prove my point about very slow speed.
                        This is a bad approach to proving your point.

                        NCAA is a fun game for some on that speed, and is Madden on slow or very slow for you is fun.

                        Just stick to proving why you like the speed, and not start by dissing another game.
                        When you do this it will turn the topic into a war between NCAA and Madden.

                        Originally posted by Football4Natic
                        Is not for everybody. Some people like <h3>arcadish</h3> speed and some rather see plays develop like you see them on tv

                        But to me this has made the game a lot more realistic. is <h3>easier</h3> to cut back inside on runs to the outside because you can react better to blockers ahead of you. like running backs do with their <h3>vision</h3>.

                        in normal or above is all about hitting holes fast without no play development which leads to seeing a lot more broken blocks and unrealistic situations.

                        but hey...that is my opinion....some prefer fast
                        I see it this way. It is not arcadish to play at a faster speed, but more or a challenge to see if you have quick field vision when running the ball to see those lanes quickly. In real life football the lanes open and close very quickly.

                        By having the speed slider in Madden. It will help those that don't have fast field vision in finding their cut back lanes. Lanes that they can not see when playing on a faster speed settings.

                        In the end the very slow speed made it incredible for you simply because you need the game slowed down in order to see the lanes , and when to cut back. Where others can do the same at a faster speed.

                        Yes very slow speed is incredible, for you.

                        Maybe someone from EA can state if this is the case. The game players more realistic if you play it at a slower speed?

                        Yes or No? This is very important for those that play the game to know.
                        Simply *Magic* Just click the link and Watch :)
                        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043715147

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                        • mavfan21
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 1842

                          #13
                          Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

                          Originally posted by Flamehead
                          You know what's great though? The fact that this in an option in the game, and that we're discussing the merits of a given speed, rather than wondering why EA made it too fast, slow, whatever.

                          User customization = win for everybody.
                          EXACTLY!

                          I wish more people appreciated all the options this year. The devs didn't get enough credit for this.
                          Don't look back too long and don't look too far ahead.

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                          • CactusJunk
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 43

                            #14
                            Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

                            Here's a video of something I mentioned in the other thread on this topic. I'm on Very Slow with custom sliders (mostly All-Pro, except some run-friendly settings that bring the Human overall difficulty to 9). Watch #87 for the Eagles (Celek), who's the winged TE on the bottom of the screen. He (1) chips the LB over him, (2) bangs the LB to the outside, and then (3) turns around and low blocks the DL who had released off the other TE's block. I had not seen anything like that kind of blocking sequence before and the low block animation was definitely new to me. I had played 15 or so games on Slow before this, which means I have a decent sample to compare it to, but admittedly not an exhaustive one.

                            <object height="360" width="640">

                            <embed src="http://cdn.www.easports.com/static/110.2.1/flash/mdMediaPlugin/mediaplayer.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="height=360&width=640&file=http://cdn.content.easports.com/media2/madden10/4666770/791A0001_2_FLV_VIDEO_mZR.flv&link=http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/9003500&linkfromdisplay=true&linktarget=_top&image =" height="360" width="640"></object>EA Sports: Madden NFL 10 Video Highlight


                            I'll come right out and say that I think the feel of APF's run game is the standard to judge things by. That might not be everyone's cup of tea (etc). Anyway, what I'm seeing on Very Slow is close to that in many respects. It's not quite to that level for me, but it is enjoyable. I'm going to keep trying this out (only about five games on Very Slow under my belt so far) and I hope it maintains this sort of feel.
                            Last edited by CactusJunk; 09-06-2009, 11:03 PM.

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                            • Football4Natic
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 747

                              #15
                              Re: Very Slow is incredible and the way the game should be played

                              Originally posted by Tyrant8RDFL
                              OK here we go lets dis one game to prove my point about very slow speed.
                              This is a bad approach to proving your point.

                              NCAA is a fun game for some on that speed, and is Madden on slow or very slow for you is fun.

                              Just stick to proving why you like the speed, and not start by dissing another game.
                              When you do this it will turn the topic into a war between NCAA and Madden.



                              I see it this way. It is not arcadish to play at a faster speed, but more or a challenge to see if you have quick field vision when running the ball to see those lanes quickly. In real life football the lanes open and close very quickly.

                              By having the speed slider in Madden. It will help those that don't have fast field vision in finding their cut back lanes. Lanes that they can not see when playing on a faster speed settings.

                              In the end the very slow speed made it incredible for you simply because you need the game slowed down in order to see the lanes , and when to cut back. Where others can do the same at a faster speed.

                              Yes very slow speed is incredible, for you.

                              Maybe someone from EA can state if this is the case. The game players more realistic if you play it at a slower speed?

                              Yes or No? This is very important for those that play the game to know.

                              First of all I am not bashing NCAA...I like that game but the speed of the game is unrealistic.

                              I dont need slow speed to run the ball or put up huge numbers in the passing game.

                              I am saying that the slow speed allows for the plays to develop in a realistic rate. You do not see broken blocks like you do with slow.

                              pocket formation is realistic because you can actually see the pass blocking developing.

                              You can side step as well by watching a blitz develop.

                              It is not about quick reflexes. I have does...

                              But football is about reading the plays and seeing things develop.

                              Is not about quicks reactions and having unrealistic animation speeds that make blockers not block properly and the animations transtion being all out of funk

                              You dont like it because you prefer super fast...that is cool.

                              I prefer slow because that is the way we watch football on tv.

                              we are not the ones actually playing on the field.

                              We should see it like we see it on tv.

                              and on tv. you do not see the speed like you do in normal..you just dont

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