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  • TheShizNo1
    Asst 2 the Comm Manager
    • Mar 2007
    • 26341

    #571
    Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

    Funny how I go all through the Madden forums looking for this thread, b/c you ya know, I thought, Madden game, uh, Madden forums, when all along we must be playing APF...lol. I don't blame you guys from wanting to stay away from their.

    I'm right their w/ DocHolliday for the reasons I stay away from their. It's funny b/c as much as I love OS, I never started to notice little BS things in games until I came here. But so far, I'm loving Madden and NCAA.
    Originally posted by Mo
    Just once I'd like to be the one they call a jerk off.
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    You underestimate my laziness
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    **** ya


    ...

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    • Biffchan
      Rookie
      • Mar 2009
      • 122

      #572
      Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

      Grunt got his box back, right?
      Trying to schedule up with him now so we can advance.

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      • boxboy99
        MVP
        • Feb 2006
        • 2320

        #573
        Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

        Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
        Glad to see you rolling with the winners again, Shiz.
        Excited to play the hit stick master himself next week. There is a buzz around the team to test ourselves against a tough Indy team... or maybe the buzz is because its five am and I have had a few brews. I need to get to bed and dream about becoming one with the hitstick.
        MLB the Show - Cubs
        2015: 80-82
        2016: 96-66 - Lost Game 7 of WS (18 innings to Red Sox)
        2017: 93-69 - Swept by Red Sox in World Series
        2018: 100-62 - Swept by Dodgers in NLCS
        2019: 14-11

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        • sportyguyfl31
          MVP
          • Nov 2005
          • 4745

          #574
          Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

          The Jets put on a masterful demonstration of "How to statistically control a game, and still lose" this past week vs the Ray-Duhs ..on a GW FG by Sedaterape Janikowski

          After initially being confused by the sight of some dude wearing #17 taking snaps,..coach NyKia...came to senses and said "Wait, that's still Jason Campbell, and he's throwing to a couple of rookie receivers"

          Unfortunately, Pro-Bowl Corner Darelle Revis must have undergone an emergency hand amputation, just before kickoff as he booted multiple INT chances.

          L-Dub, and Thomas Jones combined for 20 carries, as NyKia continues to keep Mark Sanchez on a tight leash.

          "I'm probably just going to have to wing the ball out there wide, and hold my breath, just to show the defense that I'm willing to do it from time to time." said a bewildered coach after the game.

          Keeping with tradition, coach NyKia31 destroyed all post loss game film. He will be taking his team, back to the practice field, as well as into quick match land, to see if there is a WR that he has enough confidence in to win a 1 on 1 matchup downfield, on the roster.


          P.S. As far as the drag rout goes, press man seems to be a decent antidote..but this forces you to make a B-Line straight to the flats with a robber or cover 1 saftey, to counter the "dump off prostitutes" in ranked match land.

          Audibling your zone coverage to squeeze in to the middle, improves things a little, but it still provides more trouble then it should.

          From the chatter I hear, the patches will address the zone depth issue and some of the ocassionally wonky pursuit angles.


          This has been a problem with ALL sports games, since the next gen era. We have these games, that look like a million bucks, and are still quite fun to play, but the trade off has been that the AI, across the board, has gone completelly down the toilet.

          _The curveball in MLB2k, baseline exploits in NBA Live and 2k, wide side of the field zone coverage in APF, etc..

          In the end, it has always come down to us users policing ourselves and upholding the integrity of the sport. I generally have close, good games out of the CPU, because I deliberately handicap myself, and make a consience effort not to take advanatge of the short comings in the programing. It's a pain the butt sometimes, but I'd rather do that, then have absurdly schewed stats.

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          • Phobia
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2008
            • 11623

            #575
            Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

            I hope no one takes offense to me pointing out these issues. my intent was not to bring "negativity" or "drama". I was just pointing out a issue I never knew was there until I went in and looked into it. From that point on I just wanted to share. Kinda like the hot corner on APF.

            On that note, I am learning to play as the middle linebacker and just totally smash drag route users. I sit a little lower than the default zone depth and only 2 or 3 yards makes a HUGE difference. I caused 2 fumbles today on drags over the mddle just by sitting at a correct depth manually.

            I hope you are right about the patch sport. I would love to see this get the fix it deserves. If the EA guys can fix the AI issues, WOW what a great game we will have.

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            • RogueHominid
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2006
              • 10903

              #576
              Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

              Mantra of the league: discussion does not equal drama .

              Nice work with the MLB. That's what I'm working on now as well. Sitting and smashing guys who come over the middle. There's a reason you have to be brave to go there!

              Press man really does help as well. I have the corners to do it, and if you do as well it's a nice thing to throw in from time to time.

              I have also found a couple of things through trial and error that I'll share if we want to start a strategic discussion that's X's and O's based and not gaming the game based.

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              • Pappy Knuckles
                LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                • Sep 2004
                • 15966

                #577
                Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

                Oakland over the Jets?! Wow, can't say I was expecting that one. Just goes to show you that anything can happen in these games. Oakland is definitely ruining their draft status.

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                • RogueHominid
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 10903

                  #578
                  Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

                  Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
                  Oakland over the Jets?! Wow, can't say I was expecting that one. Just goes to show you that anything can happen in these games. Oakland is definitely ruining their draft status.
                  Like I said, I'm telling you now that once I get offense in this game figured out and some better talent on that side of the ball, you bitches are gonna get smacked. Word is bond.

                  PS And Pappy, I expect more respect. You've seen the Raiders beat your Colts many a time, and that should never happen .
                  Last edited by RogueHominid; 09-07-2009, 03:18 PM. Reason: Upping the ish-ante with extra smack to Pappy.

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                  • DCMC
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 476

                    #579
                    Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

                    db press, let me know what time you're usually on so we can play our game.
                    ACQB Madden 10 & 11 Online Franchise Member

                    Philadelphia Eagles

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                    • CreatineKasey
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 4897

                      #580
                      Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

                      Sometimes these perceived deficiencies work to our benefit. In quick matches I see so many kids going to these "weaknesses" and I just completely shut them down.

                      Here's the 3 things I see:

                      Drags

                      seam routes forcing into zones

                      flat throws

                      ...

                      It is funny. You can tell people aren't even reading your defense, they are typically just reading 1 defender hoping they can somehow get their star RB open.

                      For anyone who has been struggling in the passing game I have a bit of advice after hours in practice mode and over 100 games online. When passing, treat the game like APF in the sense that you still read the safeties to determine the coverage. If you know where to go with the ball simply by the safety read, you can focus on your QB staying upright in the pocket and you delivering a deadly strike.

                      No matter how fancy defenses seem to get, the safeties can tell you most the story. Maybe you guys do this, but it really opened things up for me. It is surprising how many people call cover 2 and show blitz. So easy to beat. Once you get kids out of that defense you can really start to tear into them as they lose patience.

                      - On playaction rollouts - watch your QB as the playaction happens and be aware of the dumpoff if a free rusher is approaching.

                      - Use the OL adjustments on run plays. I'm sure you are all familiar with the playside DT running free at your RB on Power-O run plays. Well, I've been pinching my run blocking assignments when there is a 4 man line, and it has really helped. Against a 3 man line with 7 or less in the box I've been using aggressive on that play and have also seen great results. Aggressive blocking seems to really help them get a push when a defense has inadequate manpower on the first and second levels.

                      - Use cadence occasionally to mix things up.

                      - Don't be afraid to occasionally manually pass rush then switch off to the defender to make a play. I've had great success as of late rushing the passer.

                      - Read the OL first - they tell you everything and ruin playaction's effectiveness.

                      - Lay off the turbo when pursuing in the open field head to head with a good athlete in space. This game's momentum isn't heavy so you can fairly easily react and pull the guy down.

                      - Be willing to take a sack or scramble instead of throwing a blind pass. Pick-6's are game enders and it is in your best interest to not risk that.

                      - Make sure to use our stars and put your best players in a position to succeed. Have a zone-breaker play that features the slot wr as the top target? Sub in your best WR to be the guy running that route. Does your stud safety have 90 ZCV? Maybe make sure he isn't the guy in m2m defense when in a cover 1.

                      - Sub in athletes for the pass rush. I've seen a few pass rush specialists on various teams. The most notable is Elvis Dumerville. The guy has 92 FMV and... that's it! 3rd down stud.

                      - I think the R stick moves the ballcarrier during Pro-tak animations. This is also the case on defense according to the manual.

                      - Be aware on man defense of your safeties being in a bad position to cover their man. That simple flaw can kill your defense.

                      Just random thoughts.
                      Xbox Live Gamertag: CreatineKasey

                      M - I - N - N - E - S - O - T - A

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                      • Pappy Knuckles
                        LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 15966

                        #581
                        Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

                        Originally posted by The Autumn Wind
                        Like I said, I'm telling you now that once I get offense in this game figured out and some better talent on that side of the ball, you bitches are gonna get smacked. Word is bond.

                        PS And Pappy, I expect more respect. You've seen the Raiders beat your Colts many a time, and that should never happen .
                        The Raiders will never get my respect.

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                        • sportyguyfl31
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 4745

                          #582
                          Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

                          Originally posted by CreatineKasey
                          Sometimes these perceived deficiencies work to our benefit. In quick matches I see so many kids going to these "weaknesses" and I just completely shut them down.

                          Here's the 3 things I see:

                          Drags

                          seam routes forcing into zones

                          flat throws

                          ...

                          It is funny. You can tell people aren't even reading your defense, they are typically just reading 1 defender hoping they can somehow get their star RB open.

                          For anyone who has been struggling in the passing game I have a bit of advice after hours in practice mode and over 100 games online. When passing, treat the game like APF in the sense that you still read the safeties to determine the coverage. If you know where to go with the ball simply by the safety read, you can focus on your QB staying upright in the pocket and you delivering a deadly strike.

                          No matter how fancy defenses seem to get, the safeties can tell you most the story. Maybe you guys do this, but it really opened things up for me. It is surprising how many people call cover 2 and show blitz. So easy to beat. Once you get kids out of that defense you can really start to tear into them as they lose patience.

                          - On playaction rollouts - watch your QB as the playaction happens and be aware of the dumpoff if a free rusher is approaching.

                          - Use the OL adjustments on run plays. I'm sure you are all familiar with the playside DT running free at your RB on Power-O run plays. Well, I've been pinching my run blocking assignments when there is a 4 man line, and it has really helped. Against a 3 man line with 7 or less in the box I've been using aggressive on that play and have also seen great results. Aggressive blocking seems to really help them get a push when a defense has inadequate manpower on the first and second levels.

                          - Use cadence occasionally to mix things up.

                          - Don't be afraid to occasionally manually pass rush then switch off to the defender to make a play. I've had great success as of late rushing the passer.

                          - Read the OL first - they tell you everything and ruin playaction's effectiveness.
                          I find that there is a smidge too much trash to wash through, for my liking, because the OLs tend to kinda buzz around from time to time. instead of backing up the MLB a step, I just use the SS and bring him up a few, and get the same effect..seems to work.

                          - Lay off the turbo when pursuing in the open field head to head with a good athlete in space. This game's momentum isn't heavy so you can fairly easily react and pull the guy down.

                          - Be willing to take a sack or scramble instead of throwing a blind pass. Pick-6's are game enders and it is in your best interest to not risk that.
                          The #1 reason I am very wary of taking shots downfield. This game has a "rock-paper-scissors" aspect to it. My 67 rated #2 wr, vs the 77 rated cb, even though he has inside positon? "Sorry! you lose!" says the game, sometimes.

                          - Make sure to use our stars and put your best players in a position to succeed. Have a zone-breaker play that features the slot wr as the top target? Sub in your best WR to be the guy running that route. Does your stud safety have 90 ZCV? Maybe make sure he isn't the guy in m2m defense when in a cover 1.

                          - Sub in athletes for the pass rush. I've seen a few pass rush specialists on various teams. The most notable is Elvis Dumerville. The guy has 92 FMV and... that's it! 3rd down stud.
                          Starting Vernon Gholston because of this. He has the awarness and play recognition of a flea, but all you gotta do, is move him forward, and he becomes a bowling ball.

                          - I think the R stick moves the ballcarrier during Pro-tak animations. This is also the case on defense according to the manual.
                          Yes! I stumbled upon this. the stick kinda steers your ball carrier's lean and your tackle also. It's very neat actually..you can make it hard for a guy to get those solid hits on your finesse backs if you angle the sticks in sync.

                          - Be aware on man defense of your safeties being in a bad position to cover their man. That simple flaw can kill your defense.

                          Just random thoughts.

                          I had a bit of a light bulb moment. I'm something like 10-2 in my last dozen games against quick match poons.

                          1st down: Strong Safety.
                          --I can crash run, or play in a robber coverage to watch for crosses or make a mad dash to the flats for dump off.

                          Sometimes I forget that there is no focus bug to worry about, so you can really play Strong Safety the way it is meant to be played: as a hybrid LB/DB rover type positon.

                          2nd down and 4 or 5. Look for cheap underneath slant rout/dump off prostitution.

                          2nd and long: Defensive Tackle
                          Ive notices that most people are either going to run the ball here, to try to avoid 3rd and long, either that, or play action, or medium pass play.

                          ---I want to push the OL, into the backfield, and disrupt all of the above.

                          3rd and short: Linebacker. Plug the run, clog up quick slants, and underneath routes, jump screen passes

                          3rd and long, and all must pass situations: Edge pass rusher..with some pre-snap adjustments to some DL's along the way. I'll audible some of them to drop back in coverage from time to time.
                          Last edited by sportyguyfl31; 09-07-2009, 07:40 PM.

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                          • katahdan
                            MyEras Afficionado
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 224

                            #583
                            Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

                            Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
                            I had a bit of a light bulb moment. I'm something like 10-2 in my last dozen games against quick match poons.

                            1st down: Strong Safety.
                            --I can crash run, or play in a robber coverage to watch for crosses or make a mad dash to the flats for dump off.

                            Sometimes I forget that there is no focus bug to worry about, so you can really play Strong Safety the way it is meant to be played: as a hybrid LB/DB rover type positon.

                            2nd down and 4 or 5. Look for cheap underneath slant rout/dump off prostitution.

                            2nd and long: Defensive Tackle
                            Ive notices that most people are either going to run the ball here, to try to avoid 3rd and long, either that, or play action, or medium pass play.

                            ---I want to push the OL, into the backfield, and disrupt all of the above.

                            3rd and short: Linebacker. Plug the run, clog up quick slants, and underneath routes, jump screen passes

                            3rd and long, and all must pass situations: Edge pass rusher..with some pre-snap adjustments to some DL's along the way. I'll audible some of them to drop back in coverage from time to time.
                            These are some great tips! Thanks

                            I usually control the DT, as I have John Henderson. However, if the team has a capable TE that can catch some passes, I'll likely switch to the LB to manually cover that TE.

                            I might have to give this a try.
                            Twitch

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                            • grunt
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 9527

                              #584
                              Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

                              Originally posted by Biffchan
                              Grunt got his box back, right?
                              Trying to schedule up with him now so we can advance.
                              I am free all this week after 8pm. Please give me a day and time.

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                              • mKoz26
                                In case you forgot...
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 4685

                                #585
                                Re: ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

                                Bears vs. Bengals Week 7.

                                Matt Forte
                                23 Carries 63 Yards 1 Touchdown
                                Jay Cutler
                                4/11 71 Yards 1 Touchdown
                                Carson Palmer
                                203 Passing Yards
                                Brian Griese (came in for Palmer)
                                131 Passing Yards
                                Cedric Benson
                                15 Carries for 90 Yards

                                Who do you think won the game?

                                Would you believe me if I said the Bears scored 51 points?

                                Stayed tuned folks.
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