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  • PGaither84
    MVP
    • Mar 2009
    • 4393

    #1

    What do you want out of your franchise?

    After reading a lot of posts and questions by others I felt compelled to ask what you, the members of Operation Sports, want out of your franchise[s] in Madden 10?

    One person talked about how with his Packers he won back to back Super Bowls and lost all of one game. Other players talk about how they sim each game and try to use the draft and free agency to build a bad team into a champion. Others still say that they control all 32 teams and run the enitre league because they feel the computer does a poor job.

    I have tried a few franchises myself while continually adjusting sliders and I found no mater what I was doing, I still ended up winning nearly every game as the season went on with my 49ers. This just wasn't cutting it for me because I like a good sim experience and having the 7-9 49ers turn around and start the season off 10-0, or 9-1 just wasn't really cutting it for me.

    In my opinion there are three reasons why the computer is "too easy" no matter what custom sliders you use:

    1.) Poor pursuit angles. Even if you end up playing a very close simulation style game, the poor pursuit angles often allow nice gains or nice plays to degenerate into scores or huge gains and momentum shifting plays. This can be remedied to an extent by using the "no sprint" rule. I found that by just not using sprint on offense helps prevent the big play from breaking the game. This, however, feels like a cheep solution and more like a band aid to the real problem.

    2.) The computer blitzes too much, and at the wrong times. As I showed in a video of mine, I had the Ball at around the 12 with 7 seconds left and one time out. The computer sent the house with an 8 man corner blitz and it was a simple matter of tossing the touch pass over the middle to my hot receiver for the easy score. Too often in this game the D sends 6 or 7 men after the user to try and generate pressure, but any player that knows his reads can exploit this [the three reads are; Primary, Hot, and check down receivers]. Just throw it to your hot man and pick up solid yards.

    3.) Poor decisions by the computer controlled QB. While every one complained about robo QB burning then up with the pass, I honestly believe that with the sliders for QB accuracy in M10 set to 22 [my preference, but anything around 20 will do] causes QBs to throw the occasional over/under throw and with WR catching set between 40-45 allows receivers to actually drop some passes, robo QB wouldn't be so bad. Currently I can watch as the computer QB has all day on a 3rd down and I will see a TE or slot receiver either running wide open over the middle or sitting alone on a curl route and will be ignored even by Kurt Warner and Tom Brady so they can force the ball to someone in tight coverage leading to incomplete passes or even turn overs.

    In my opinion, these three things, above all others, are reasons why no mater what you do to the sliders to make M10 and other wise fun and simulation NFL experience, the user has a significant advantage over the computer leading to unrealistic results in franchise mode.

    So I ask again; What do you want out of your franchise mode?

    Thank you.
    My Madden Blog
  • Pringles
    Banned
    • Sep 2009
    • 587

    #2
    Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

    you make some valid points but madden has never been sim it is trying to get there. is it not 10 times closer than last years version of the game
    i personally love this game and know it is on the right track. but if i was to grip about it i would say the fact they added all the records that you can break and there is noway in hezz that with my lions stafford is going to break the all time passing records when franchise mode only last 10 years so to me all the altime records in the game are useless.

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    • Guggy107
      Pro
      • Aug 2008
      • 777

      #3
      Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

      pretty sure franchise mode lasts at least 30 years

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      • Pringles
        Banned
        • Sep 2009
        • 587

        #4
        Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

        i just looked at a josh looman video and he said 30 years lol my mistake that is sweet i thought he said 10 in anothervideo unless he ment online.

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        • PGaither84
          MVP
          • Mar 2009
          • 4393

          #5
          Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

          He did mean online. They said that they would consider expanding the 10 years if they found a lot of people capping out at the 10 year mark, but they honestly don't expect people to play that much online franchise.
          My Madden Blog

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          • sois
            Banned
            • Nov 2007
            • 1900

            #6
            Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

            Your issues aren't really franchise mode issues, but gameplay issues. But I guess I'll answer the original question:

            Full NFL sized rosters
            Preseason that means something - NFL cut down days, roster battles, training camp
            Weekly progression
            Restricted free agency
            Actual NFL INJURED RESERVE rules
            Ratings that matter for positions other than QB and attributes other than speed
            Coaches that actually do something
            Finances that matter
            New stadiums without moving your team
            Head Coach FA negotiation
            Some sort of immersion with what is happening in the rest of the league

            Pretty much an overhaul of what is there.

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            • R.Moncrief
              Rookie
              • Nov 2007
              • 229

              #7
              Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

              I can look past the practice team squad, cutting players down to a 53 man roster, the IR issues, and all those kind of gripes.

              I look past them because they are all necessities for a real(er) franchise experience and at this point, I've grown used to not having them and I have adjusted. They would be nice touches, and I'm sure they are easy fixes, but I can dig the game without 'em.

              I would like the EA Radio thing back. I forget the host but whoever that bald dude was, he was essential to my franchises a few years back. I'm pretty good at imagining my own drama within my franchises and simulating the idea of suspending players and all that, but with that addition they had so many years ago, it made it easier to believe the league had a pulse. I haven't played franchise on Madden 10 yet, I refuse to until the patch is released, and maybe the Extra Point will help me in this area but unless it is exactly like that radio thing, I doubt it.

              I don't know if they fixed this and if Madden has always had this feature, I can't remember experiencing it but I would love it if I can sim the rest of the games for say Week 4 and suddenly I have a notification that some team wants to negotiate a trade with me. To know that the CPU controlled teams are coveting one of my top guys would make everything a lot more interesting. As it stands, this year, I think I'm going to control all 32 teams for the first time in my Madden playing experience so this last point I brought out winds up not mattering a whole lot.

              And yea, I'm sure some gameplay tweaks would help smooth franchise over. I don't mind admitting a fault and I feel as though I may not be as good as the rest of you. I know how to play the game and play it well, maybe I'm not as aggressive as the rest of you and that's probably a good thing because I can maintain balanced game scores most of the time and going 9-7 isn't a hard task. Do I have to sometimes run out of bounds so I don't run up the score to 28 in the first half? Sure. But you know what? It's not that HUGE of a deal. In the NFL, if a team could they'd drop 45 in the first half. No mercy. For me, I guess, it's different. Just because I can do something, doesn't necessarily mean I have to.

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              • Whoa Titan
                Rookie
                • Jul 2009
                • 11

                #8
                Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

                I want star players to really stand out

                I want to be able to get sacks on a decent enough basis if i have a good D-line {like averaging from 1-4 a game]

                I want O-line to be important, and to be leaps and bounds better in run blocking and pass blocking.

                Finally, I want a GOOD jump ball, because Larry Fitz and Calvin Johnson, etc, are just the same as any other wr without it.

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                • Jump
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 603

                  #9
                  Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

                  The main thing I look for is competition. If I can go 14-2 with the Lions, I'm not having much fun.

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                  • R.Moncrief
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 229

                    #10
                    Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

                    Again, I don't know if it's the sliders or probably my lack of aggression in video games, but I've managed to get realistic win/loss records. I think the only time I've had a perfect season was in NFL QB Club '98.

                    That may be an exaggeration, lol.

                    But seriously, with PHI, I can manage 10-6 to 13-3 seasons. Which.. is realistic. Last year I lost the first three games of my second season with Philly. Can't complain.

                    I get 8-8 seasons every now and then. I mean, it all comes down to you not playing as aggressively as you'd want to. Run out of bounds on what would be sure 85 yard tds. You don't need to let 6 of those happen in a game. Sure, the game is at fault for making this kind of easy at times. But then again, you are human and the game is COM. You're going to outsmart the game now and then.

                    I've also learned that if I play a game, and then take a break, my next game will be balanced, like my first. Whereas if I play 3 games in an hour, by the third game I'm so used to playing that I'm scoring 50 points easy.

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                    • rokaparty
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 45

                      #11
                      Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

                      I don't want to win every game. It's pretty annoying when I go a combined 29-3 with an average team at best. I upped the difficulty to little success because the AI blitzes are easy to light up. Plus the poor pursuit angles.

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                      • Beardown
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 445

                        #12
                        Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

                        I am looking to have fun while having a challenege winning the Super Bowl, I want to see my players progress and regress, win awards, retire, etc.

                        As for Madden being too easy I do not have that problem as I use the same system I have used for years now and it works great. I use Ask Madden on offense and have to call the play on the left, no switching. If it is a pass play I have to try and hit the receiver that is highlighted. I only vary from this if I get behind by two scores in which case I can call any of the three plays first shown. I just put myself into the mindset that I am the player and the coach is sending in the plays. I do not audible or motion guys to give me an advantage. I still win more than I lose and generally make the playoffs but I have not made it to the Super Bowl yet and I am in year 4 of my franchise.

                        I definitely hear what you are saying but I just realised I have to play Madden the way it wants me to as opposed to the way I would like to.

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                        • rokaparty
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 45

                          #13
                          Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

                          That's actually a smart idea Beardown. I may have to give that a shot.

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                          • PGaither84
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 4393

                            #14
                            Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

                            Originally posted by sois
                            Your issues aren't really franchise mode issues, but gameplay issues.
                            I agree they are game play issues, but that is just part of the question. IMO, the game play issues are a leading cause to unrealistic franchise results.

                            I think I am going to have to give Beardown's idea a chance. I think the modification would be to mentally keep track of what plays have already been called. I don't want ask Madden to call the same play over and over in a game. Also I want to keep a mental track on the run/pass ratio. I prefer a solid rushing attack, so I may use the ask Madden feature like how the Colts used to call plays, one pass and two runs. The idea that these are the few plays the OC wants to call and at the line I can make the final call in a formation audible if need be.

                            lastly, great idea all around. I agree that what we need at the very least is to see M11's franchise to be as good as older versions of Madden, and ideally we could get Head Coach into M11. Strike that, Head coach and then some
                            My Madden Blog

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                            • stlstudios189
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 2649

                              #15
                              Re: What do you want out of your franchise?

                              I like Bear's idea. I have gone 29-3 winning 2 strait SuperBowls on 09 with the Cleveland Browns. So far I am 0-1 on my new season.
                              Gaming hard since 1988

                              I have won like 25 Super Bowls in Madden so I am kinda a big deal.

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