Madden NFL 10 Announces AFL Legacy Pack, Screenshots and Video Available

[permanent1]

Re: Madden NFL 10: AFL Legacy Pack DLC Details

They should have made sure that the poor gameplay in some areas was taken care of via the patches before they started releasing any extras like this in my opinion.

[countryboy]

Re: First details on AFL Legacy Pack DLC ($6.99)

I think he meant will it get rid of the bugs and glitches. Or will it be the same just with throwback jerseys?

Does it matter? Do new songs for Rock Band, new map packs, new costumes, new add-ons get rid of bugs/glitches in other games?

I don't recall any of them doing so.

[countryboy]

Re: Madden NFL 10: AFL Legacy Pack DLC Details

They should have made sure that the poor gameplay in some areas was taken care of via the patches before they started releasing any extras like this in my opinion.

Who says they aren't? The first patch is in the certification process with MS/Sony. The AFL Legacy pack doesn't release until the 24th. My money says that the first patch will drop before the AFL Legacy Pack does.

And besides, people were/are in an uproar because the AFL pack hadn't been released yet.

[The GIGGAS]

Re: First details on AFL Legacy Pack DLC ($6.99)

That's not a good comparison. Football, by nature, is a different gameplay experience every time you play.

Actually, it is. Rock Band adds on gameplay with new songs. Remember, they ship with a large amount of songs on disc, and release 3-12 songs a week. That's one way Rock Band keeps people playing the game because it doesn't get stale... new gameplay.

New maps add new strategy to a shooter, where strategies change due to new spawn points, new objectives, and new obstacles to get over or avoid on your way to get the other team.

New characters in a fighting game give you new moves to learn and either complete or defend against.

Adding uniforms to a football game is window dressing, and doesn't change how you play the game. Everything else I mentioned does.

Of course, I figured someone would say "but what about the Madden Moments". My response for the Madden Moments is that you get 5 for this pack, which, unless you love playing Madden Moments, you'll get about 20 minutes out of.

[TracerBullet]

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Who says they aren't? The first patch is in the certification process with MS/Sony. The AFL Legacy pack doesn't release until the 24th. My money says that the first patch will drop before the AFL Legacy Pack does.

And besides, people were/are in an uproar because the AFL pack hadn't been released yet.

Either way once the patch drops people will complain about what it did and didnt fix anyway. If every game waited till they fixed all of the problems in their games there wouldnt be much DLC.

[roadman]

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Either way once the patch drops people will complain about what it did and didnt fix anyway. If every game waited till they fixed all of the problems in their games there wouldnt be much DLC.

I agree.

Patch #1 will fix some things, but not everything.

I'm sure Patch #2 will fix some game play issues.

[ThePebble19]

Re: First details on AFL Legacy Pack DLC ($6.99)

Actually, it is. Rock Band adds on gameplay with new songs. Remember, they ship with a large amount of songs on disc, and release 3-12 songs a week. That's one way Rock Band keeps people playing the game because it doesn't get stale... new gameplay.

New maps add new strategy to a shooter, where strategies change due to new spawn points, new objectives, and new obstacles to get over or avoid on your way to get the other team.

New characters in a fighting game give you new moves to learn and either complete or defend against.

Adding uniforms to a football game is window dressing, and doesn't change how you play the game. Everything else I mentioned does.

Of course, I figured someone would say "but what about the Madden Moments". My response for the Madden Moments is that you get 5 for this pack, which, unless you love playing Madden Moments, you'll get about 20 minutes out of.

I suppose then, if that is your reasoning, what could they add in a DLC pack that would make it worth the 7 dollars? New stadiums, uniforms, even old teams...none of that really changes the gameplay.

In last year's case, for example, had they come out with the Accelerated Clock DLC, I could see how that would fall in line with your "gameplay" changing experience for this game, because it changes how the overall game is played.

[SmashMan]

Re: First details on AFL Legacy Pack DLC ($6.99)

Replayability. If I d/l extra songs for RockBand or an expansion pack for, say, Midnight Club LA, then that will be a one time purchase. Sports games are different, they are released yearly. If I d/l a song in RockBand, it will work in all iterations of RockBand. Will I be asked to purchase franchise enhancers, elite status, uniforms, and other DLC for Madden 11? Probably. That's fine, we live in a capitalist economy, which gives me the option of buying it or not, which I won't. I also think now more than ever it's important to be an educated consumer. When other sports games offer this content for free, and now I'm being charged, I should ask why.

I think it'd be fair to point out that Rock Band's multi-game compatibility is the exception to DLC, and not the rule; for those that don't play.

[The GIGGAS]

Re: First details on AFL Legacy Pack DLC ($6.99)

I suppose then, if that is your reasoning, what could they add in a DLC pack that would make it worth the 7 dollars? New stadiums, uniforms, even old teams...none of that really changes the gameplay.

In last year's case, for example, had they come out with the Accelerated Clock DLC, I could see how that would fall in line with your "gameplay" changing experience for this game, because it changes how the overall game is played.

I wasn't suggesting what they should add or what they shouldn't. All I answered was this question:

For all of those who are pissed that the AFL Legacy Pack cost money, let me ask you this. What is the difference between paying for this and extra map packs for games, customizable parts for driving games, extra songs for Rock Band/Guitar Hero, extra costume packs, extra characters in games, extra this and that with any game?

And please don't use the cop out line that, "well its should've been in the game already" or "I already paid X amount of dollars for this game", because those two lines could be used for any and all games that offer DLC.

So go ahead, please enlighten me and the rest of the community with why what EA/Madden is doing is any different than what any other company that offers DLC is doing.

I'm not totally against this pack... in fact, if they did something for the Jaguars, I'd buy it without a doubt. But since my team doesn't have anything to do with the AFL, I'm not going to.

As for the question you asked, I don't know. I'm not a marketing person or project manager that's paid to dream up these great gameplay additions.

[SportsTop]

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Actually, it is. Rock Band adds on gameplay with new songs. Remember, they ship with a large amount of songs on disc, and release 3-12 songs a week. That's one way Rock Band keeps people playing the game because it doesn't get stale... new gameplay.

New maps add new strategy to a shooter, where strategies change due to new spawn points, new objectives, and new obstacles to get over or avoid on your way to get the other team.

New characters in a fighting game give you new moves to learn and either complete or defend against.

Adding uniforms to a football game is window dressing, and doesn't change how you play the game. Everything else I mentioned does.

Of course, I figured someone would say "but what about the Madden Moments". My response for the Madden Moments is that you get 5 for this pack, which, unless you love playing Madden Moments, you'll get about 20 minutes out of.

Then I would argue that new tracks in Rock Band does not add new gameplay. It's just a new song that requires button mashing in a different sequence.

Maps can be viewed as just cosmetic as well as they don't truly effect the actual gameplay.

Again, football, by it's nature, offers new gameplay each time you press reset.

[The GIGGAS]

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Then I would argue that new tracks in Rock Band does not add new gameplay. It's just a new song that requires button mashing in a different sequence.

Maps can be viewed as just cosmetic as well as they don't truly effect the actual gameplay.

Again, football, by it's nature, offers new gameplay each time you press reset.

Alright, we'll agree to disagree here, Squint.

[ThePebble19]

Re: First details on AFL Legacy Pack DLC ($6.99)

I wasn't suggesting what they should add or what they shouldn't. All I answered was this question:



I'm not totally against this pack... in fact, if they did something for the Jaguars, I'd buy it without a doubt. But since my team doesn't have anything to do with the AFL, I'm not going to.

Fair enough. I think that what another poster said earlier is true too though, Rock band/GH are kind of the exception to the rule on DLC.

I am with you though...I will buy it because it affects my team. Otherwise I would probably think about it, but wouldn't be outraged because it costs money.

Another thought though(and this is not directed at you, Giggas)...It almost seems like it's a two headed monster with a lot of posters...When something is wrong, they call for it to be fixed. If it's fixed but it puts them out in any way (restart franchise, DLC $$$, etc.), then it's an outrage. If it's not fixed, it's an outrage, because EA just wants more of our money next year.

I'm just happy they appear to be working on things. Regardless of how this works out in the coming months, we are seeing things around here with developer interaction that can do nothing but make this series(and the rest of the series') better from here on out.

For me, I buy 4 games a year...Baseball, Football x2, and Hockey. That money is already spent every year, without thinking twice...and I play the crap out of the games. Any extra content or things they want to throw at me I will consider...but I consider them based on the situation, and don't add the "I blew 60 bucks on a game that should have this already!" line in it. It's a few bucks, and I can live with that.

[thegenerel]

Re: First details on AFL Legacy Pack DLC ($6.99)

its too bad we have to pay for it, but dang, it looks sweet!

i dont play with AFL teams really but i think the throwback presentation looks really cool!

[marcoyk]

Wow! That's awesome! And I'm stunned that this hasn't been leaked on here or rumored.

[SeventhWard]

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I will not be buying this because I work part time minimum wage. I must use my income to pay my health insurance premium that increases $20 every year.

Now THAT'S real.


-SeventhWard