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  • Moegames
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 2396

    #91
    Re: FAQ videos are recorded...awaiting approval

    Originally posted by MeanMrMustard
    Wow... announce a patch with just about everything everyone wanted, and people still find a way complain.

    I mean, honestly. Have some class, people.
    Petty aint it? But hey, im sure the hell glad im not one of the whiners around here, thats for damn sure. I would feel too much like a douch bag after all the improvements made thus far with the game and up coming patches :wink:
    ..You win some, you lose some

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    • roadman
      *ll St*r
      • Aug 2003
      • 26339

      #92
      Re: Madden NFL 10 FAQ Videos are Recorded... Awaiting Approval

      Originally posted by Netherscourge
      Who are the 3rd parties that have to give approval?

      Are you talking about Microsoft and Sony? Or EA? Or who?
      It takes two weeks to go through MS/Sony certification. So, yes, once it's out of EA's hands, it's in MS/Sony's hands.

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      • ChicagoChris
        60526
        • Jul 2002
        • 1547

        #93
        Re: Madden NFL 10 FAQ Videos are Recorded... Awaiting Approval

        Agreed. It's funny to me that they release damn fine game IMO, support us by having developers on the boards, address our concerns via a patch 1 and it looks like a patch 2 and people still complain.

        It's simple, if you are releasing a fix that goes to MILLIONS of people, you have to get it VERY right the first time and that takes ALOT of TIME and testing. With consoles, you cant release a fix to a patch very easily so it better be right the first time.

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        • kehlis
          Moderator
          • Jul 2008
          • 27738

          #94
          Re: FAQ videos are recorded...awaiting approval

          Originally posted by slthree
          Actually, I think its you who have this "completely backwards" (to use your words). And, to use your own words again, your assertion that "A majority of consumers now are almost strictly online players" is "borderline absurd".

          This is not "World of Warcraft"
          As I said, I wasn't claiming to be right, I was giving my opinion.

          The "boarderline absurd" comment was with regards to saying that 95% of all gamers are strictly offline.

          Even if my assumption is wrong, which I stated very well could be the case, I hardly doubt that 95% of all Madden gamers play only offline.

          And if I am wrong, I will have no problem admitting it. I was not attacking the poster I quoted, I was just disagreeing with him.

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          • favredollarfootlong
            Banned
            • Sep 2009
            • 20

            #95
            Originally posted by kehlis
            Ok, so, you want to pay less for the game because as you say it isn't a "finished" product (strictly your opinion by the way, not fact).

            You have to wait for patches to potentially "finish" the product. Yet you don't feel you should have to pay more to have a finished product once you get them? That doesn't make sense.

            You didn't have to buy the game. You could have/should have rented it, and if it fell short of your expectations prior to patches, you shouldn't have bought it.

            This is no one's fault but your own that you bought a game you aren't happy with.
            Yes, this game is an unfinished product and poorly implemented...IMO.

            Yes, patches potentially finish the game, you are right. However, patches are meant for one or two things in a game that just didn't respond well or correctly in a game. Madden is trying to fix multiple things with these patches, something that was supposed to be fixed while the game was in production or things that shouldn't have been fixed at all.

            Games shouldn't have to fall short and have people think, "this game sucks, I can't wait for the patches to come and make it better!" Patches are there for "this game is great, but if I can get them to fix this one glitch, the game will feel more complete to me.".....IMO

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            • NINERZ#1FAN
              Rookie
              • Aug 2009
              • 82

              #96
              Re: Madden NFL 10 FAQ Videos are Recorded... Awaiting Approval

              How long are we going to have to wait before this faq video is available? I just want to know if we gotta restart our franchise to d/l the patch or not.. if not then i will start my season right now..

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              • roadman
                *ll St*r
                • Aug 2003
                • 26339

                #97
                Re: Madden NFL 10 FAQ Videos are Recorded... Awaiting Approval

                Originally posted by NINERZ#1FAN
                How long are we going to have to wait before this faq video is available? I just want to know if we gotta restart our franchise to d/l the patch or not.. if not then i will start my season right now..
                Ian stated he is waiting approval from the marketing department.

                Usually, that is a yes or no proposition. If yes, then Ian can post the blog shortly, in not, he will have to revise it or touch it up.

                I'm assuming near the end of the week. That is just my opinion.

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                • favredollarfootlong
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 20

                  #98
                  Originally posted by sois
                  Unfortunately for those of us that like fully working games, the game IS worth $60. The market says so. If it was not worth that price, nobody would buy it.

                  Most gamers don't even notice post patch differences I would guess. My friends are just happy to be staring at NFL uniforms. They purchase hype. As long as it sells, EA can maintain the status quo.
                  It's the only NFL game out there. Of course people are going to buy it. It doesn't matter as long as the NFL License is there. It's an EA game, and retailers won't think twice about putting it under the 60 dollar price tag. It's going to sell, it's the only one of its kind out there....unfortunately....IMO

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                  • slthree
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 2529

                    #99
                    Re: FAQ videos are recorded...awaiting approval

                    Originally posted by kehlis
                    Believe me, I would love it if it were true, I am just basing my guess off of my personal experience and observations over the last couple of years.

                    I have no doubt that older gamers who were raised playing nothing but offline games against the CPU continue to do so, however, that generation loses gamers every year whereas the younger generations which (from my personal experience plays mostly online) continues to grow.
                    Its comical how you try to sound authoritative when your simply talking out of your butt.

                    "your personal experience"? WTF?

                    So, your telling us that you have had personal contact with every gamer who purchased Madden10, and you asked them if they play online or offline more?

                    Last year, Madden sold 2 million copies in the first 2 months alone. Lets use just half that figure for this year (because i don't know how many copies they have sold this year, and unlike you, I won't pretend to know something I don't and I won't attempt to make my personal guess sound like a FACT).

                    So, have you had contact with 1 million Madden 10 users? And, if you have, did they, in fact, confirm to you that they are "strictly online"?

                    Dude, your assertion is baseless and you should be a little more concerned with accuracy than fabricating your own stories.

                    You could have avoided all of this by simply saying: "Online play is more important to ME and my associates than offline play"

                    That would have been a fact.

                    But, to apply your small sample to the entire Madden 10 playing community is just irresponsible and foolish.

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                    • roadman
                      *ll St*r
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 26339

                      #100
                      Re: Madden NFL 10 FAQ Videos are Recorded... Awaiting Approval

                      Originally posted by favredollarfootlong
                      Yes, this game is an unfinished product and poorly implemented...IMO.

                      Yes, patches potentially finish the game, you are right. However, patches are meant for one or two things in a game that just didn't respond well or correctly in a game. Madden is trying to fix multiple things with these patches, something that was supposed to be fixed while the game was in production or things that shouldn't have been fixed at all.

                      Games shouldn't have to fall short and have people think, "this game sucks, I can't wait for the patches to come and make it better!" Patches are there for "this game is great, but if I can get them to fix this one glitch, the game will feel more complete to me.".....IMO
                      I've seen 2k basketball fix multiple issues with patches.

                      Also, there are many folks with this game that fall into the "This game is great, but if can get them to fix this one glitch for me............

                      Just saying, it's different strokes for different folks.

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                      • favredollarfootlong
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 20

                        #101
                        Originally posted by roadman
                        Interesting.

                        My copy of the game was finished. Yeah, there are some issues with the game, but I bought a complete product with some issues that will be patched.

                        Please name me one perfect sports game that has never been patched on next generation.
                        IMO people wouldn't have to be so hard pressed to get the patches to be excited or get their franchises started or whatever it is that they are waiting for to have a memorable experience (they hope) to play Madden 10.

                        If things would have better implemented by the game release time, people could be more excited to see these patches to add to the game, not help fix the game.

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                        • kehlis
                          Moderator
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27738

                          #102
                          Re: FAQ videos are recorded...awaiting approval

                          Originally posted by slthree
                          Its comical how you try to sound authoritative when your simply talking out of your butt.

                          "your personal experience"? WTF?

                          So, your telling us that you have had personal contact with every gamer who purchased Madden10, and you asked them if they play online or offline more?
                          I certainly never tried to sound authoritative, I never knew stating my personal assumption about it was coming off as authoritative.

                          I never claimed to talk to every gamer. I base my assumptions off of the small sample size of people I know. Highly unscientific, I know, but it is all I have to go off.

                          Last year, Madden sold 2 million copies in the first 2 months alone. Lets use just half that figure for this year (because i don't know how many copies they have sold this year, and unlike you, I won't pretend to know something I don't and I won't attempt to make my personal guess sound like a FACT).
                          Again, I never pretended to know something that I don't.

                          My assumptions are simply that, assumptions, until I see evidence showing me I am wrong, I'm sorry, but that is how I will feel.

                          Dude, your assertion is baseless and you should be a little more concerned with accuracy than fabricating your own stories.
                          Again, you don't have to tell me it is baseless. Are we not allowed to share our thoughts?

                          You could have avoided all of this by simply saying: "Online play is more important to ME and my associates than offline play"
                          I'm quite certain you didn't even read my post because I clearly stated I am stricly an offline player and always have been.

                          But, to apply your small sample to the entire Madden 10 playing community is just irresponsible and foolish.
                          Maybe, is there any data out there that proves it to be either wrong or right?

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                          • favredollarfootlong
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 20

                            #103
                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            This is all opinion, because I know several people on the boards here that are happy with the game as is and the patch will make it a "more complete" game for them. As for fixing multiple things, I'm pretty sure that a majority of the patches that are released for games fix more than one or two items.

                            Yes, but many times people don't even notice that a patch was needed or that a patch was implemented into the game. The game still feels like it did before the patches. Madden is trying to add patches for too many noticeable things that are wrong with this game. They just better get it right and get it right fast...IMO

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                            • roadman
                              *ll St*r
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 26339

                              #104
                              Re: Madden NFL 10 FAQ Videos are Recorded... Awaiting Approval

                              Originally posted by favredollarfootlong
                              IMO people wouldn't have to be so hard pressed to get the patches to be excited or get their franchises started or whatever it is that they are waiting for to have a memorable experience (they hope) to play Madden 10.

                              If things would have better implemented by the game release time, people could be more excited to see these patches to add to the game, not help fix the game.
                              I agree with what you are saying, but that's the same with every sports game I own on NG. EA isn't the lone ranger.

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                              • favredollarfootlong
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 20

                                #105
                                Originally posted by roadman
                                I agree with what you are saying, but that's the same with every sports game I own on NG. EA isn't the lone ranger.
                                IMO....

                                Yes, but this is EA, they are the supposed powerhouse....they have all this money, supposed to have the technology, resources, knowledge, employees, etc. to bring us the best game that we have ever seen. We don't have any other options to play an NFL game. They are it and we need them to step up and show us that they actually can make an elite NFL sim.

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