Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

[Homecourt]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

Are we going to have to adjust the sliders once the patch is released?

You know it =).

[Homecourt]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

Guys, I'm going to stop testing sliders until the patch comes out, because the changes will affect the balance of the game. And I'll probably rebalance coach mode first.

Good Idea.

I went ahead and played the first 11 coach mode games in week 1 with the current sliders. I think I might be fool enough to do this on a regular basis once the first patch and roster update come out so that my stats, while still inaccurate, will be even for each team.

I just rolled a die and went odd = visitor / even = home to decide who to control.

Here are the scores for anyone interested.

Titans 33, Steelers 30
Ravens 27, Chiefs 20
Texans 26, Jets 10
Vikings 31, Browns 27
Eagles 27, Panthers 20
Colts 31, Jaguars 29
Bengals 27, Broncos 6
Cowboys 30, Buccaneers 27 (OT)
Saints 45, Lions 19
Dolphins 34, Falcons 6
Seahawks 24, Rams 23

So I was 7-4, (green were me) but Manning threw 2 30+ bombs to score the game winning TD or I would have lost.

Cowboy game was rediculous too. Bucs had that one.

Seahawks came back too.

Fun games. Good stats. You don't always get the guys you "expect" to get the stats getting them, but they are for the most part reasonable and realistic.

37 total sacks
24 total interceptions

5 guys went over 300. That's a little much, but I'm not gonna complain. Only 4 did it in all of week 1 last year, but week 2 had at least 7...

7 guys broke 100 none broke 200. There were at least 7 in week 1...

RB Avgs were from 7.0 (Peterson) to 1.5 (T. Jones) for guys that ran 20 times or more. Don't like the low end, but I can only hope that it balances out over the season.

Of the top 10 rushers 5 were USER controlled and 5 were CPU controlled. I like that a lot.

Of the top 10 passers 4 were USER and 6 were CPU.

That's all for now.. Hopefully the patch will only mess with the sliders in a "good way" right? =)

[budsticky]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

Yeah, I guess the break tackle and block shed sliders are going to be much more sensitive, so you won't have to adjust them so far high or low to get results. This means they will be able to be more finely tuned as well. All good there.

As far as upping the human pursuit rating in the roster update, this is a mixed bag for me. While it might help for the first year in your franchise things will start to get hairy for those that continue their franchises over several years. Unless I'm missing something I'm assuming that the created draft classes will still have the across-the-board lower pursuit ratings. So after a while franchise players will be back to the same old situation for pick-6. Like I said, that's how I understood it. I'm assuming a roster update won't affect the created draft classes. I'm also not clear if a patch will come out to fix this later for draft classes.

I'm sure that the multi-year offline franchise player is not their highest priority.

[budsticky]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

Good Idea.

I went ahead and played the first 11 coach mode games in week 1 with the current sliders. I think I might be fool enough to do this on a regular basis once the first patch and roster update come out so that my stats, while still inaccurate, will be even for each team.

I just rolled a die and went odd = visitor / even = home to decide who to control.

Here are the scores for anyone interested.

Titans 33, Steelers 30
Ravens 27, Chiefs 20
Texans 26, Jets 10
Vikings 31, Browns 27
Eagles 27, Panthers 20
Colts 31, Jaguars 29
Bengals 27, Broncos 6
Cowboys 30, Buccaneers 27 (OT)
Saints 45, Lions 19
Dolphins 34, Falcons 6
Seahawks 24, Rams 23

So I was 7-4, (green were me) but Manning threw 2 30+ bombs to score the game winning TD or I would have lost.

Cowboy game was rediculous too. Bucs had that one.

Seahawks came back too.

Fun games. Good stats. You don't always get the guys you "expect" to get the stats getting them, but they are for the most part reasonable and realistic.

37 total sacks
24 total interceptions

5 guys went over 300. That's a little much, but I'm not gonna complain. Only 4 did it in all of week 1 last year, but week 2 had at least 7...

7 guys broke 100 none broke 200. There were at least 7 in week 1...

RB Avgs were from 7.0 (Peterson) to 1.5 (T. Jones) for guys that ran 20 times or more. Don't like the low end, but I can only hope that it balances out over the season.

Of the top 10 rushers 5 were USER controlled and 5 were CPU controlled. I like that a lot.

Of the top 10 passers 4 were USER and 6 were CPU.

That's all for now.. Hopefully the patch will only mess with the sliders in a "good way" right? =)

Since you are controlling everybody did you go in ahead of time and reduce the defensive aggressiveness for all teams the way some are suggesting in these forums? Supposedly this reduces the crazy blitzes by the CPU defenses.

As for the running averages, I think there is a big disparity between different backs. As we've talked about before it seems the backs with the high trucking ratings have a big advantage because they break more tackles. Hopefully the patch will even things out some.

[budsticky]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

By the way Bill, I'm surprised we even saw you here today what with the Beatles Rock Band game coming out.

[Homecourt]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

As far as upping the human pursuit rating in the roster update, this is a mixed bag for me. While it might help for the first year in your franchise things will start to get hairy for those that continue their franchises over several years. Unless I'm missing something I'm assuming that the created draft classes will still have the across-the-board lower pursuit ratings. So after a while franchise players will be back to the same old situation for pick-6. Like I said, that's how I understood it. I'm assuming a roster update won't affect the created draft classes. I'm also not clear if a patch will come out to fix this later for draft classes.

This is the first thing that popped into my head when he said that as well. Makes me wonder if it popped into any of theirs. And if not...ugh.

[Homecourt]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

Since you are controlling everybody did you go in ahead of time and reduce the defensive aggressiveness for all teams the way some are suggesting in these forums? Supposedly this reduces the crazy blitzes by the CPU defenses.

As for the running averages, I think there is a big disparity between different backs. As we've talked about before it seems the backs with the high trucking ratings have a big advantage because they break more tackles. Hopefully the patch will even things out some.

On the first no I didn't but I'm going to. Didn't start noticing those posts until after I did that.

On the second. Check this out. I went back and looked actually just an hour ago and I had guys like Jacobs and Peterson, but also Slaton, DWilliams, and C. Johnson

List goes like this...

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BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" width=64> .......BTK</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" width=64>.........20+</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" width=64>........Long</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" width=64>.........YPC</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 54pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" width=72>TRK Rating</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 55pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" width=73>Controlled</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>Slaton</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>29</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>191</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>8</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>61</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>6.5</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl64 align=right>71</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">....CPU</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>Peterson</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>22</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>154</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>8</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>42</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>7</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>99</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">....CPU</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>R. Brown</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>24</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>125</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>30</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>5.2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>86</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">....CPU</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>D. Williams</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>17</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>117</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>29</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>6.8</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>82</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl66>....USER</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>Rice</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>28</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>115</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>20</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>4.1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl64 align=right>78</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl66>....USER</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>Jones-Drew</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>24</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>115</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>5</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>0</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>14</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>4.7</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>88</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">....CPU</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>Jacobs</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>29</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>109</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>22</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>3.7</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>98</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">....CPU</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>Westbrook</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>26</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>107</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>5</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>24</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>4.1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl64 align=right>59</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">....CPU</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>Turner</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>21</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>84</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>0</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>11</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>4</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>98</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">....CPU</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>C.Johnson</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>22</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>82</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>4</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>30</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>3.7</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl64 align=right>69</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl66>....USER</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl63 height=20></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0; mso-ignore: colspan" class=xl65 height=20 colSpan=2>Other Top Truckers</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl63 height=20></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">CARRIES</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">YARDS</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">BTK</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">20+</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">Long</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">

TRK Rating

</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>Lewis</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>17</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>61</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 align=right>3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>0</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>14</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>3.5</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>97</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl66>USER</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>L.Johnson</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>13</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>79</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>2</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>1</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>37</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>6</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>96</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">CPU</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>S.Jackson</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>15</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>39</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl64 align=right>5</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>0</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>7</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>2.6</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>95</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0">CPU</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl65 height=20>M.Barber</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>19</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>31</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl67 align=right>3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>0</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>12</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>1.6</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" align=right>94</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #f0f0f0; BORDER-LEFT: #f0f0f0; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: #f0f0f0; BORDER-RIGHT: #f0f0f0" class=xl66>USER</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Very random. I'm more concerned now with a potential running advantage for the CPU in the slider settings (3/10). I'll keep track of this for the rest of the weeks games and see if it stays skewed in favor of CPU controlled backs.

[budsticky]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

On the first no I didn't but I'm going to. Didn't start noticing those posts until after I did that.

On the second. Check this out. I went back and looked actually just an hour ago and I had guys like Jacobs and Peterson, but also Slaton, DWilliams, and C. Johnson

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</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; width: 48pt;" width="64">CARRIES</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; width: 48pt;" width="64">.....YARDS</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; width: 48pt;" width="64"> .......BTK</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; width: 48pt;" width="64">.........20+</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; width: 48pt;" width="64">........Long</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; width: 48pt;" width="64">.........YPC</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; width: 54pt;" width="72">TRK Rating</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; width: 55pt;" width="73">Controlled</td></tr><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; height: 15pt;" class="xl65" height="20">Slaton</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">29</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">191</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">8</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">3</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">61</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">6.5</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" class="xl64" align="right">71</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;">....CPU</td></tr><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; height: 15pt;" class="xl65" height="20">Peterson</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">22</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">154</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">8</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">2</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">42</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">7</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">99</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;">....CPU</td></tr><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; height: 15pt;" class="xl65" height="20">R. Brown</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">24</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">125</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">3</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">1</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">30</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">5.2</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">86</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;">....CPU</td></tr><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; height: 15pt;" class="xl65" height="20">D. Williams</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">17</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">117</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">2</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">1</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">29</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">6.8</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">82</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" class="xl66">....USER</td></tr><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; height: 15pt;" class="xl65" height="20">Rice</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">28</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">115</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">3</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">1</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">20</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">4.1</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" class="xl64" align="right">78</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" class="xl66">....USER</td></tr><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; height: 15pt;" class="xl65" height="20">Jones-Drew</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">24</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">115</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">5</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">0</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">14</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">4.7</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">88</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;">....CPU</td></tr><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; height: 15pt;" class="xl65" height="20">Jacobs</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">29</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">109</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">3</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">1</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">22</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">3.7</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">98</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;">....CPU</td></tr><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; height: 15pt;" class="xl65" height="20">Westbrook</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">26</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">107</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">5</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">1</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">24</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">4.1</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" class="xl64" align="right">59</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;">....CPU</td></tr><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; height: 15pt;" class="xl65" height="20">Turner</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">21</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">84</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">3</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">0</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">11</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">4</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">98</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;">....CPU</td></tr><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; height: 15pt;" class="xl65" height="20">C.Johnson</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">22</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">82</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">4</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">2</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">30</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" align="right">3.7</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" class="xl64" align="right">69</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" class="xl66">....USER</td></tr><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent; height: 15pt;" class="xl63" height="20">
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Very random. I'm more concerned now with a potential running advantage for the CPU in the slider settings (3/10). I'll keep track of this for the rest of the weeks games and see if it stays skewed in favor of CPU controlled backs.

Yeah, that does look pretty random, but I guess there's a lot of factors coming into play besides the trucking..like the tackling rating of the guys trying to stop them, etc... I do have to say though, that based on my stats in my Skins franchise and what you post here that there seems to be a definite advantage to CPU runners. You saw those numbers..nearly 125 a game on the ground against me through 8 games. And what you didn't see in my stats I posted last night was my 9th game I played after posting the stats where Moreno ran me up for 180-something yards! Washington was top 10 in run defense last year and added Haynesworth. They shouldn't be getting beat up this bad.

It just seems that the computer rarely has a bad game on the ground. Still, I'm not going to sweat it too much because the patch is going to really make those running sliders mean something. It's also going to penalize players more when they are fatigued which should tone down the running as well. I only hope that it doesn't cause the disappearing fourth quarter player problem to increase.

[IAmGardner]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

Guys, I'm going to stop testing sliders until the patch comes out, because the changes will affect the balance of the game. And I'll probably rebalance coach mode first.

Do u know when the patch will be released/what they're fixing or a site where updates are listed? Thanks.

[Homecourt]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

Do u know when the patch will be released/what they're fixing or a site where updates are listed? Thanks.

This is where you want to read http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-part-1-a.html

and I believe they WANT to get it out next week, but it might take longer than that.

[IAmGardner]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

Thanks, dude.

[budsticky]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

I've been getting some interesting results -and when I say interesting I mean good- by controlling all teams in franchise and playing defense for both sides. I know I did a thing before where I controlled both offenses, but that blew up after a while. I do think part of it might have been that I controlled only one team in franchise. As stupid as it might sound it seemed the CPU knew who the human team was even though I would switch sides. I think with all the teams under my control the CPU doesn't know who to give a boost to so it doesn't give it to anybody. I've only played a hand full of games so far, and I'll post some stats later when I get some more games as evidence. However, I can say that the large number of monster rushing games seems to be way down, and the QB comp. percentages have looked very good. I've also had some defensive battles like I haven't had before..13-10, 16-10, etc...

Anyway, off to watch some real football. I think I almost forgot what it looks like since I've spent so much time in front of Madden over the last few weeks.

[Homecourt]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

I've been getting some interesting results -and when I say interesting I mean good- by controlling all teams in franchise and playing defense for both sides. I know I did a thing before where I controlled both offenses, but that blew up after a while. I do think part of it might have been that I controlled only one team in franchise. As stupid as it might sound it seemed the CPU knew who the human team was even though I would switch sides. I think with all the teams under my control the CPU doesn't know who to give a boost to so it doesn't give it to anybody. I've only played a hand full of games so far, and I'll post some stats later when I get some more games as evidence. However, I can say that the large number of monster rushing games seems to be way down, and the QB comp. percentages have looked very good. I've also had some defensive battles like I haven't had before..13-10, 16-10, etc...

Anyway, off to watch some real football. I think I almost forgot what it looks like since I've spent so much time in front of Madden over the last few weeks.

I was considering this as well. Another poster mentioned it when we were doing both offenses. I think I'll wait til the roster update and run the first week back again like I did before.

Liking the Coors Light coach commercials, the Favre Sears, and the Polamalu Head & Shoulders too. =P Seasons finally here...

Oh yeah and I think I'll mess with the coach sliders too just for fun.

[Ignite210]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

Does anyone else feel that the Threshold is too high?

[budsticky]

Re: Bill's v3 Realism Sliders

I was considering this as well. Another poster mentioned it when we were doing both offenses. I think I'll wait til the roster update and run the first week back again like I did before.

Liking the Coors Light coach commercials, the Favre Sears, and the Polamalu Head & Shoulders too. =P Seasons finally here...

Oh yeah and I think I'll mess with the coach sliders too just for fun.

Yeah, it was kind of stupid of me to do these games knowing the roster would be out today. I'll probably start over now with the new rosters. It's all good though. I'll probably also bump up the INT sliders to the 3-5 range now that supposedly the pick-6 will be less of a problem. I played about 8 games yesterday and only 1 QB threw more than 1 INT out of all of them. Usually every QB threw 1 in a game. There were a couple who didn't have any. I'm not in front of my TV now to be able to post stats..but I do remember this. I'm just afraid of getting too many, so maybe I'll start with it at 3 and see how that goes.