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  • hulkamaphone
    Rookie
    • Nov 2007
    • 98

    #16
    Re: NBA 2K10 Draft Combine Roundtable

    I think I might be alone in saying this but I'm getting increasingly concerned about these "micro transactions" for features that should be in the final game. EA has done it for some time now and it is really separating the consumers. I mean, why charge people for updates when they should be in the released game?

    I can tell you know, if 2K offered live updates for free, but EA asked users to pay for them, I know that 2K would look like the better option. We are already paying $60 ($100 in Australia!) for games and I really can't see how publishers can justify charging extra for features or add-ons that should be considered a part of the "package".

    I can see people saying "yeah well, if you don't like it don't buy it" which is fair enough, but 2K are telling its customers that in order to get a head start on your "my player" character, we need to spend $5 extra??? And don't get me started on the fact that Europe and Australia can't even access the game!

    At some point, in the mad rush to get more customers, companies should start adding more value to their packaged product and not stripping it apart to extract more profit later on. My fear is that as these sorts of activities become the norm, more and more aspects of the game will be charged as add-ons. What are people willing to pay for? seasonal roster updates? extra jerseys and shoes?

    It will be interesting to see how the DLC goes for EA's Fight Night Round 4. They are asking people to pay for a very small boxer roster that users have already made (and quite well) on boxershare anyway! It's just another weak attempt at money grabbing, and if your going to do a paid roster update, get a good number of boxers and ones who aren't retired!

    As for splitting the game up and offering the "my player" mode as a separate game, I respect those that think it would work, but I'd have to disagree. The My Player mode is another way to add value to your product, and by taking that away all you will be doing is dividing your customers. I know that the My Player mode will initially take up 99% of my gaming. Does that mean I don't want the association mode or exibition? Definately not! I want the option to chose which mode I play, and I would think many people would try both at the same time or play one after the other. This is what I did with FIFA09, I started off in the "be a pro" mode and once I played 7-8 seasons and had enough I started the manager mode. By doing this, the game stayed fresh for me and I had something completely different to the individual mode I was previously playing. Things like this make this generation of games great, we don't need to separate this just to make an extra buck.

    It would be interesting to see if 2K or EA does try this at some point, but I would guess the competitor would stick to the current model in order to attract more customers.

    Thats just my two cents anyway...

    [rant over]
    Last edited by hulkamaphone; 09-10-2009, 07:47 PM.

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    • kcxiv
      Banned
      • Dec 2005
      • 2564

      #17
      Re: NBA 2K10 Draft Combine Roundtable

      i dont know how you can say this is stripping the game apart when the game never ever has had this mode. You get a whole 3-4 points advantage. I honestly think its a great thing. I rather pay for a stand alone downloadable content, then get the game, access the game and have to pay for something in there to be unlocked. Now that is freaking insanely bad. Its happening in the other game.


      I hope 2K does this every year and just adds a bit more spice to it in future offerings. Maybe next year have access to play online with your chacter in team up mode with nothing but scrubs. haha


      Anyways, i like the way 2K is doing it. They arent asking you to break the bank or anything. Very very reasonable price.

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      • hulkamaphone
        Rookie
        • Nov 2007
        • 98

        #18
        Re: NBA 2K10 Draft Combine Roundtable

        Originally posted by kcxiv
        i dont know how you can say this is stripping the game apart when the game never ever has had this mode. You get a whole 3-4 points advantage.
        It's not really the points that bother me, its more the fact that you will have to go through summer league and even D-League to get into an NBA team (that comes from the 2K insights, that not using the DC will make things more difficult). I don't have much time to play as is, so for those that want to get into the game its a little hard.

        TBH I would be happy if the combine part was the only thing they left separate from the main game. My point about "stripping the game apart" was more a fear that future versions would have more left out to give incentives to purchase add-ons.

        For the record, as it stands now, I am fine with the Combine as it is (being standalone DLC), I just don't want to see it develop into a situation where users are purchasing a standard game and having to pay for every little extra (eg: alt jerseys, shoes, accessories, roster updates) I think those things should be in the final game for everyone!

        Like I said, its not like this at the moment, but I would fear it may turn into that in time if these DLC offerings become more accepted. I could be wrong, but time will tell and I think it's something publishers should be wary of moving towards.
        Last edited by hulkamaphone; 09-10-2009, 09:21 PM.

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        • kcxiv
          Banned
          • Dec 2005
          • 2564

          #19
          Re: NBA 2K10 Draft Combine Roundtable

          Originally posted by hulkamaphone
          It's not really the points that bother me, its more the fact that you will have to go through summer league and even D-League to get into an NBA team (that comes from the 2K insights, that not using the DC will make things more difficult). I don't have much time to play as is, so for those that want to get into the game its a little hard.

          TBH I would be happy if the combine part was the only thing they left separate from the main game. My point about "stripping the game apart" was more a fear that future versions would have more left out to give incentives to purchase add-ons.

          For the record, as it stands now, I am fine with the Combine as it is (being standalone DLC), I just don't want to see it develop into a situation where users are purchasing a standard game and having to pay for every little extra (eg: alt jerseys, shoes, accessories, roster updates) I think those things should be in the final game for everyone!

          Like I said, its not like this at the moment, but I would fear it may turn into that in time if these DLC offerings become more accepted. I could be wrong, but time will tell and I think it's something publishers should be wary of moving towards.
          ya know, i have that problem as well. What problem? worrying about something that hasnt happened.

          Well, your guy is supposed to start from scratch and they said its supposed to be hard. Everyone these days wants EZ mode.

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          • hulkamaphone
            Rookie
            • Nov 2007
            • 98

            #20
            Re: NBA 2K10 Draft Combine Roundtable

            The only way to stop something happening in the future is to bring up the issue now. Be proactive not reactive, thats all Im sayin'

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            • CujoMatty
              Member of Rush Nation
              • Oct 2007
              • 5445

              #21
              I love the rpg elements ala MLB the show and I also like that it will probably take quite a few seasons to get a dominating player. I also like the animations and alot of the other things this DLC does and would definetly say it's worth 5bucks. Here's my problem this article doesn't mention the problems. That's just not very good journalism. Numerous times my player would get stuck on someone and do the whole Mario running thing. Also it just doesn't feel like my player always is doing what I want him to do. Mostly this can be chalked up to be because I'm stuck in an animation but it just shouldn't happen. Eg: pressure is on after the CPU scores with not much time left I'm up by two. I'm point gaurd so I run to get open catch the inbound 5 feet inbounds and my dude gets caught in some sorta hoppy catch animation and runs straight outta bounds. I've had enough of these type of instences happen to me that I feel it should have been worth mentioning if your considering paying for DLC. If it was a free demo I'd understand. Like I said IMO it's worth the 5 bucks I'll definetly be buying the game and I'm sure I'll love it but this article made it seem like this was the greatest thing since sliced bread and IMO a roundtable is there to discuss the good and bad which really didn't happen here.
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              • TheBest
                Banned
                • Feb 2008
                • 414

                #22
                Re: NBA 2K10 Draft Combine Roundtable

                $100 for a game?!?! Are you f***in kidding me?

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