Madden NFL 10 Announces AFL Legacy Pack, Screenshots and Video Available

[2krules]

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Madden Moments / Sepia Filter are things that will be used once. I do not know anyone who bought Madden for the Madden Moments, or anyone who even really cares about those. If you want to be happy about a color filter and grainy effects that's your call. Are you really going to play with the filter more than 5 times the entire time you have it? I'd like to say you most likely won't, which is why this whole item is not justifiable.

It's not just a sepia filter. Everything graphic-wise in the presentation will look retro - stat overlays, banners, etc. I will use it frequently, as I love that retro look.

[Random Hero]

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Yeah the retro look is admittedly gimmicky but it is pretty cool. It would be AMAZING if they had old time rosters, but that would take a long time to get licenses, etc...And by the time it came out it would probably be like 20 bucks.

[Cardot]

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This is consumerism at it's best.

blah blah blah......

Keep supporting capitalism.

LOL, classic. Yeah, I wish we lived in the old Soviet Union. This $7 crime against humanity would never be tolerated.

[Cardot]

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It's kind of like how once my daddy used to tell me, "Son, one day, you're going to grow up and understand that buying material things right now will make you happy, but when you get older, you'll realize how foolish you were and how you could have just saved your money for better things instead."

LOL, yeah so then you can buy material things and be miserable when you are older instead. That makes sense.

[2krules]

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LOL, classic. Yeah, I wish we lived in the old Soviet Union. This $7 crime against humanity would never be tolerated.

[kbmnm247]

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It's not just a sepia filter. Everything graphic-wise in the presentation will look retro - stat overlays, banners, etc. I will use it frequently, as I love that retro look.

I understand it's not just a filter. It's also different colors for the overlays and a different Madden on the Ask Madden. Bells and whistles, bells and whistles.

If you ever played MVP baseball where they had this same exact feature included in the original disc you will realize how pointless and gimmicky it actually is.

But to each his own.

[kbmnm247]

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1. There are throwbacks and alternates in the game already. Have you even played it?

2. You don't like the DLC, don't buy it. Pretty simple if you ask me.

Yes, I realize throwbacks are in the game already. They were produced and worked on at the same time of these uniforms, or were just pulled from years and years of saved bitmaps on EA's servers. That's why the uniforms should be free and on the disc. EA realizes they should have been on the disc and to make more $ off of a product (before a patch fixing game-killing issues is released or even worked on mind you) they added some filters and Madden Moments to make it seem like we are getting a deal. Being able to create scenarios should be in the game anyway too, but it was just another feature EA decided to remove so they could add it later as a new feature, Madden Moments.

2) I won't buy it. My suggestion is no one else buys it either so we don't get charged for things that have been in the game and in other games forever, for free. Remember when they wanted to charge for throwbacks a few years ago and people laughed at them and they had to release it for free.... ?

[countryboy]

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Yes, I realize throwbacks are in the game already. They were produced and worked on at the same time of these uniforms, or were just pulled from years and years of saved bitmaps on EA's servers. That's why the uniforms should be free and on the disc. EA realizes they should have been on the disc and to make more $ off of a product (before a patch fixing game-killing issues is released or even worked on mind you) they added some filters and Madden Moments to make it seem like we are getting a deal. Being able to create scenarios should be in the game anyway too, but it was just another feature EA decided to remove so they could add it later as a new feature, Madden Moments.

2) I won't buy it. My suggestion is no one else buys it either so we don't get charged for things that have been in the game and in other games forever, for free. Remember when they wanted to charge for throwbacks a few years ago and people laughed at them and they had to release it for free.... ?

In regards to the bolded part....there is a patch thats being worked on right now, and its the 2nd patch. The first patch will be released shortly, most likely next week. So, this idea that they are doing this instead of working on a patch or releasing a patch is incorrect.

As far as #2, your suggestion has been recognized, but sorry to inform you that I'm buying. I have no problem paying for DLC like this. If I didn't feel it was worth it, then I wouldn't buy it.

I understand you wanting people to feel as you do and not buy the DLC and complain so that hopefully it either comes down in price or is free, but thats most likely not going to happen. People want it and they want to buy and are going to buy it. Why can't you accept and respect that decision by others and stop trying to persuade them to feel as you do?

Different strokes for different folks.

[Glenn33]

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I understand you wanting people to feel as you do and not buy the DLC and complain so that hopefully it either comes down in price or is free, but thats most likely not going to happen. People want it and they want to buy and are going to buy it. Why can't you accept and respect that decision by others and stop trying to persuade them to feel as you do?

Different strokes for different folks.

Countryboy - he's just trying to save us from ourselves. God Bless this young man!

[Glenn33]

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Yes, I realize throwbacks are in the game already. They were produced and worked on at the same time of these uniforms, or were just pulled from years and years of saved bitmaps on EA's servers. That's why the uniforms should be free and on the disc. EA realizes they should have been on the disc and to make more $ off of a product (before a patch fixing game-killing issues is released or even worked on mind you) they added some filters and Madden Moments to make it seem like we are getting a deal. Being able to create scenarios should be in the game anyway too, but it was just another feature EA decided to remove so they could add it later as a new feature, Madden Moments.

Unless you have documented first hand knowledge of how/when these uniforms were created by the EA artist - please stop making broad stroke statements like this. I promise you - your knowledge of how this stuff works is FAR less than you think it is. Without PROOF - we have NO idea how much effort, time and resources went into making this DLC. You can argue it aint worth $7 - heck I might even agree there....but STOP saying things like this unless you can back it up.

[2krules]

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If you ever played MVP baseball where they had this same exact feature included in the original disc you will realize how pointless and gimmicky it actually is.

But to each his own.

I don't play baseball games, so I've never seen it. But if I had, I wouldn't consider it pointless and gimmicky. Old school is where it's at for me, so I would have liked it better than the present-day presentation.

[capa]

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It's not that simple. EA would have to individually negotiate a deal with EVERY single player on those rosters before they could use them in the game. Do that and the cost would be alot more than $7.

I don't agree. They would only need to do this if they chose to include real names and likenesses. The reality is, all they needed to do was to provide generic players like they used to for the historic teams that we could edit into reality, or easier yet, just allow us to use the in game editor to edit the current teams and players into historic teams. That's it. No licensing required.

C

[Glenn33]

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I don't agree. They would only need to do this if they chose to include real names and likenesses. The reality is, all they needed to do was to provide generic players like they used to for the historic teams that we could edit into reality, or easier yet, just allow us to use the in game editor to edit the current teams and players into historic teams. That's it. No licensing required.

C

I was responding to the request for historic rosters - NOT generic rosters:

Yeah, I found it strange as well. Why do throwback like that and then no provide the real rosters? Seems weird.

[capa]

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I was responding to the request for historic rosters - NOT generic rosters:

Yes, but there is a way to have historic rosters in the game...which is what many want to see. Don't get mad...I was just trying to bring light to the situation. Too many people think that licensing is the only way to get historic rosters in...it's not. There is a much more simple path. That's all...

C

[IRISHFBFAN1]

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Dude...I paid $2.00 for a gallon of gas in 2004. Get over it.

Do you guys really not get it?

EA, like any other company, has different divisions. Executives in one branch explore options to maximize their profit from their production branches.

Enter DLC.

That branch then directs the game designers to implement that into their product.

If 2k was still in the business of making football games I guarantee you they'd be exploring the DLC avenue as well.

Why, you ask? Because it's the NFL. The most popular sport in America. It isn't the MLB, NBA, or the NHL where consumers are likely to pass on uniform DLC because they can do without it or just don't care. They've done their market analysis and know what they can and can't charge for and what people will pay for.

I have to agree. No doubt 2K would do exactly the same thing. Why all the hate for this? If you don't want it, don't get it. If you do, reach deep down in those tight *** pockets and pull out 7 freaking bucks and be done with it. People need to let the 2k5 vs MADDEN thing go! WOW! WTF! Listen, its like this, MADDEN is the only football game around of course along with NCAA. We are not going to change that, done deal. And, in a few month's that contract will extend, and alot of you will be wasting 5-6-7 more years of your life complaining and comparing 2k5 with MADDEN.
If you don't want this feature, dont get it. The same goes with playing 2k5 or madden, pick one, or like me play both every now and then and go on. But this back and forth stupid **** about 2k5 and madden is getting very old. EA and 2k5 are probably laughing their asses off listening to all the whining. Buisness is buisness, it doesnt matter what EA does, some of you will go out of your way to put them down. Hell, you haters and bashers sound like little spoiledkids who didnt get enough presents for Christmas. Its sickening, heard it with NCAA, now with MADDEN. PUT THE DAMN GAME IN AND ENJOY A VERY GOOD VIDEO FOOTBALL GAME.