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**Bahnzo** · 09-11-2009, 07:53 PM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by kgx2thez

Players had a lot of momentum in '09. That was the big change IMO from '08 to '09. Out of all the EA games I played in '09 FIFA was the only one that got this right.

I never understood this complaint. I have my user-switching 2 clicks from the left and once I pass the ball it switches players fast enough for me to take control of the pass recipient.

I still don't think players have as much momentum as they should have. Especially the CPU. Playing some more games, I've come to notice it for the human, but the CPU still defies physics most times. I'd like to see more.

Sorry, but they still stand around waiting for passes, while the CPU does not. I get that you can control your guy who is receiving the pass, but most times you don't gain control of him as soon as is needed to make the move to the ball. The AI should be making the move for you before you take control. Again, the CPU does this perfectly on their end, so it's in there...just not programmed for the Human team.

I have to maybe take back the stuff I said about not enough fouls. In the many games I played last nite, I started to see more. It's dependant on the official it seems tho. Some swallow the whistle and some put their stamp on the game.....this should be a good thing. Keeping fingers crossed it's in the final.

**Whitesox** · 09-11-2009, 08:00 PM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

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**Bahnzo** · 09-11-2009, 08:01 PM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by Qb

Well, UK account is up & running and download has started. I may or may not have amused myself by using the Arsenal corporate HQ zip code and front desk phone number. Will check back later...

Talk to me next time QB. A regular dvd and the right knowledge is much easier than wasting a free gold account on downloading a demo

**Bahnzo** · 09-11-2009, 08:08 PM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by therizing02

After about 10 games this demo really does nothing for me. The CPU STILL plays the same. Way too many stupid shots from impossible angles, route one football and no midfield battle. How does Barcelona have 15 shots in this short of a game?

-I'm not seeing much difference in the physical part of the game. Fouls are about the same from what I've seen so far. The advantage rule has been tuned for the better and I like the warning, but if the number of fouls are not increased what is the point of having a set piece creator that's rarely used? Hopefully it plays out better in the retail version with longer halves.

-It's apparent that the CTT will have to be adjusted to make the game somewhat playable....again. It helped a little bit last year. The problem with this though is that there will probably be a limited number of slots to save tactics.

-There is still way too much dribbling because the field/pitch is too big which creates a lot of space. Football is a passing game NOT a stick jockeying skill/trick moves game!

-Same as FIFA 09 and 08. As soon as the CPU misses a shot I can get the ball to a striker at midfield with a 30 yard ground pass. The back 4 NEEDS to push up higher! It's way too easy to get the ball through the middle of the field into the attacking third. This is another reason why there are so many shots.

Every CPU possession(it seems anyway):

Get it to the ST in midfield, pass to winger, sprint down sidelines and either cross or 1 pass back for a ridiculous shot from 25 yards.

-I do like the new shooting mechanic. It's actually not new but it has been tuned for the better.

-I'm still not seeing how the 360 movement is helping.

It is early and if we've learned anything over the last two years is that it takes a good amount of time to figure out the game. Hopefully it's the same this year and the game starts to grow on me.

Lots of stuff that I see also. Riz and I wear the same goggles

Teams again play all the same. Without many more slots for the CTT's, this can't be fixed. I don't get it? why not give us 100 slots? Screw those people that don't have hard drives (so they can't store enough)...don't punish those of us smart enough to purchase more than the basic console.

I do think fouls might be better Riz..I was starting to see more in the games I played last nite. Seems the ref is a factor in this.

Easy passing....NHL 10 needs to talk to FIFA.

Speaking of NHL10....FIFA needs to be developed in Europe, with someone like a David Ritter (ie: former professional) at the helm. Do you think NHL would be as good as it is, if it was made in France instead of Canada?

**Whitesox** · 09-11-2009, 08:15 PM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

I was wondering, how do people play at day?

I can only play in the FIWC stadium at dusk.

**P2K** · 09-11-2009, 08:42 PM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

So basically, everyone plays the same...route 1 pushing the ball up the middle mindlessly and tip it to the flank for the cross is still the CPU's offense...and your players still have no brain of their own. That sucks. I can keep '09 to get the same satisfaction.

Welp...PES...let's see what you got.

**steveeee** · 09-11-2009, 08:55 PM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

not liking this... I'm not sure why but FIFA does nothing for me again... I was big in to FIFA 08 when it first came out but now I don't seem very interested.. this demo just made me more excited to test the PES10 demo now actually

Welp...PES...let's see what you got.

**Tomasperez9** · 09-11-2009, 09:09 PM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

I don't know how many of you have been play human v human, but me and my roommate have played 10+ games these past couple of days. It plays so well in multiplayer. There's none of those lobbed through balls every time and there are actually a lot of fouls, even with "A" tackles. I'm really loving this game. Against the computer it's kinda iffy, but playing against a human is really fun.

PS: Diego is disgusting in this game.

**Bahnzo** · 09-11-2009, 09:15 PM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by Tomasperez9

I don't know how many of you have been play human v human, but me and my roommate have played 10+ games these past couple of days. It plays so well in multiplayer. There's none of those lobbed through balls every time and there are actually a lot of fouls, even with "A" tackles. I'm really loving this game. Against the computer it's kinda iffy, but playing against a human is really fun.

PS: Diego is disgusting in this game.

That's really what I'm hoping for...multiplayer has the potential to be fun again.

**TheDutchDad** · 09-11-2009, 10:31 PM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by Bahnzo

That's really what I'm hoping for...multiplayer has the potential to be fun again.

Nice avatar Bahnzo!

I was able to download the demo today on the PS3 since I couldn't figure out for the life of me how to do it on the 360, and I have to say I enjoyed it. The 360 movement was very well done and easy to use. For those of you who can't feel the 360 movement I question which game you're even playing.

All in all...not a whole lot of difference. I still think I like PES more...but FIFA is a fun game. I'll be getting both footie games for the 2nd straight year.

**JBucc** · 09-11-2009, 10:43 PM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

I pretty much have the same reactions as others here. The movement, animations, and ball physics are all great, but the AI, CPU and friendly really drag it down. They've got the game mechanics pretty much nailed, next year they need to focus hard on AI and team tactics. Despite the improvements I'm not having as much fun as I did with 09.

Qb · 09-11-2009, 11:50 PM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

I haven't played too much, but I get the feeling that this will be a much better multiplayer experience. I've forgotten how much the default CTTs screw with the gameplay. Looks like I'll be setting aside a day to create & assign tactics to all the major leagues and top teams from the smaller leagues. It helped a lot with 09, so hopefully it will do the same for the AI in 10.

EDIT: Just had one of those games as mentioned by Bahnzo -- 6 fouls for the CPU, only one on a slide tackle. It appears that if you're patient and a little clever on the ball, especially with skilled dribblers (I was Barca), you can see fouls. Saw a few wrong-footed defenders stick out a leg for a call, actually remember a waved off advantage so make that 7, and also saw two shoulder charges through the back as I received the ball which were never called in prior years. Let's keep our fingers crossed, indeed...

**ezio** · 09-12-2009, 08:17 AM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

I feel the same way as a lot of you. The biggest let down of course being that all the teams all play the same all the time. I also don't see much of a difference in players again except for maybe Xavi. There are some good things. I crossing and shooting are much improved which is good. I await the demo of PES 2010 to compare but right now I don't think I will get Fifa.

**Pared** · 09-12-2009, 08:55 AM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

I'm enjoying the heck out of the demo.

They increased the variability on a lot of things... and I can tell the GK's are improved.

Slow speed opens up the game for me more.

If you're concerned with passing, why can't you just put on the option to make the control all manual like last year?

**CarryTheWeight** · 09-12-2009, 09:24 AM

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

I'm very impressed by the demo. The flow of the gameplay is much more realistic this time around, it's paced perfectly. The new dribbling doesn't revolutionize the game all that much but it does offer the ability to cut past defenders effectively and switch directions in a realistic fashion.

Star players are dominant from what I've seen. I was dominated by Chicago Fire in my first game (embarrassing, since I was Chelsea) and Brian McBride simply torched me. He was always in position and always primed to score or shoot on goal. I had to keep at least two defenders in his area at all times because he was a risk to score every time the ball came close to the box.

Not sure if this was in 09 (I didn't purchase the game last year) but the "instant free kicks" that happen are something I wanted to see in a soccer game for a while. It's good to see that instead of the jarring "fade to black" free kicks we usually get. I wish something like that could happen for throw-ins, though. Nice to see stuff happening in real time without breaking the flow of the game.

Very solid all around, can not wait to take the full version for a spin.

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