FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

[TheArsenologist]

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

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Correct me if I'm wrong, fellow FIFA players, but the angled run Henry makes into the box feels new (and quite welcome) to me. I can't remember AI teammates seeing the space and making the appropriate run like he did in this clip. If he only he were still wearing the red and white of the Arsenal...

[ZM Punk]

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

Crap I forgot this came out today.

(goes to download the demo).

[Whitesox]

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

Silly ZM!

Post if you are playing at Wembley or the FIWC stadium, please.

[Bruins]

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

Post if you are playing at Wembley or the FIWC stadium, please.

Wembley

[TheArsenologist]

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

Silly ZM!

Post if you are playing at Wembley or the FIWC stadium, please.

It's console dependent.

XBox is Wembley, FIWC is PS3. That's all there is to it.

[spartansocc12]

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

After playing both demos I can say that I am more torn then ever. The responsiveness and passing in fifa, especially the ground passing, is far superior to PES. PES' ground passing is too direct and rigid. Player movement is also very poor. Playing as Messi in fifa actually feels like I am able to replicate his movement and style where as in PES it is not possible due to the rigidness in the movement.

With that being said, PES' AI is MUCH better then FIFA's. This is my only huge grip with fifa. All the teams play the same way. They all shoot a lot and rarely hold possession or attempt to since they only seem to go forward. In PES what made the game enjoyable was the fact that the comp moves the ball in a realistic way by passing it back and fourth to create chances. As much as I love fifa, on world class regardless of the team I can easily hold the ball 60% of the time, where in PES it is much more challenging. Barcelona in Fifa, plays like a very good team. Even with little possession they can quickly get shots off where the Chicago Fire are just not very good. It feels like Barca is a very good team and that is the only way they distinguish themselves from other rivals. So in Fifa teams only play differently in terms of their effectiveness and not in their style. So, in a sense they do not play differently at all, the better the team the more effective they are in attacking and defending. In PES this was not the case because certain games felt more like a battle for possession and control depending on the team's style of play.

The biggest shocker is that PES actually looks much better then fifa. From the in game graphics to the up close player likenesses PES is far superior. The game just looks so good. Do not get me wrong Fifa still has very good graphics but prior to seeing PES I would have said they have incredible graphics but that is now not the case. However, FIFAs animations demolition PES. It really is not comparable. Fifa's players animate and move in a way that PES does not. Overall graphics go to PES and animations go to FIFA.

Overall, I cannot decide. It is very difficult to say which is that much better because I do not believe one to be far superior to the other because both are very flawed. They are actually very much the opposite in experience. Where FIFA is fluid in control, PES is very rigid and restricted in what can be done. PES as stated has far superior AI that attempt to play in a variety of ways, where in FIFA teams only distinguish themselves in effectiveness not in style as they all play the same way. PES' control ruin the experience for me where the AI ruin it for me in FIFA. The AI makes PES a very good play, while the control and animations make FIFA so much fun.

Thoughts?

[mdbussen]

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

I'm really impressed by the FIFA 10 demo and so far have wanted to play it more than the PES demo. FIFA 10 feels so fluid and the animations are fantastic, even if PES may have a bit nicer player models now.

This goal I scored with Juventus really showed some of the amazing things that I am finding with the demo - using Del Piero, I saw Camorenesi making a run along the top sideline. I was able to hit him with a beautiful long ball (B button) which would never be possible in PES. I love the speed of the cross-field balls in FIFA 10.

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[Matt10]

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I'm really impressed by the FIFA 10 demo and so far have wanted to play it more than the PES demo. FIFA 10 feels so fluid and the animations are fantastic, even if PES may have a bit nicer player models now.

This goal I scored with Juventus really showed some of the amazing things that I am finding with the demo - using Del Piero, I saw Camorenesi making a run along the top sideline. I was able to hit him with a beautiful long ball (B button) which would never be possible in PES. I love the speed of the cross-field balls in FIFA 10.

Beautiful cross, yes. Realistic? Not if it was with the inside of the foot. I can see that type of cross loop down like that if it was a volley with the instep (laces), but not with the side of the foot. Beautiful run though, absolutely perfect timing - and I like how he called for the ball to be played. The glory of the goal is not being downplayed, I am just focused on some of the annoying ball physics.

EA really need to figure out the ball physics a bit more here. Crossing should be hard and specifically aimed at noone, it should not meet players heads, players' heads should meet the ball - if that makes sense. This has been my #1 concern with the FIFA series that EA just have never gotten right. You can't just cross the ball and have a forward stand straight up and head the ball, sure it happens, but most of the time a player's momentum is what drives in goals - believe me I've scored plenty of them and I find myself on the ground because of that momentum.

Ball physics - make it a priority next year.

As for my input of the demo. Well, I'm probably going to buy FIFA 10 over PES 10 this year, it just feels more like football - I just hope anything that Riz has said gets addressed and they do not mess up Manager Mode again, along with that BAP has to be longer than 4 years.

[Krebstar]

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After three games, I'm impressed and excited. It's clearly a step up from last year, and on the "slow" speed, the pace is pretty much perfect.

[KG]

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Only played 3 matches but I thought normal speed felt a lot slower than last years normal. I also think that on "semi" passing there were more erratic passes which is a good thing.

There are still times when you have no control over your back line and can't fight for the ball but I think the 360 movement helps the CPU defense out much more. No more cheesing the CPU with diagonal runs or stopping on a dime and switching angles that was so effective against the CPU last year.

I had a ton of fouls called vs me but not as much against the CPU which is good and bad. Good because last year there were matches when the CPU went all out slide tackle crazy and got 2-3 men sent off but bad if you play a more physical style of play.

Playing vs Barca it was good to see them take off Henry and bring on an extra defender (Maxwell) to preserve the 1 goal lead BUT they still played him in the same spot .

Hopefully we'll get some leagues/BAP going again like in '08

[Tomasperez9]

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I had a ton of fouls called vs me but not as much against the CPU which is good and bad. Good because last year there were matches when the CPU went all out slide tackle crazy and got 2-3 men sent off but bad if you play a more physical style of play.

Playing vs Barca it was good to see them take off Henry and bring on an extra defender (Maxwell) to preserve the 1 goal lead BUT they still played him in the same spot .

Hopefully we'll get some leagues/BAP going again like in '08

I've yet to see a computer red card, but they average a yellow card every other game against me. Then again, I've been trying to draw fouls at the edge of the area (to work on my set pieces) by turning my back to the defender (RT) right before he comes in for a challenge.

Maxwell seems to be the backup LW for Barca. Down a goal they may bring in Maxwell for Henry. I was under the original impression that substitution logic is better, but I may have been completely wrong. One game, the computer took off Ribery for Tymoschuk when down a goal. A DM for a AMR/L? Questionable...

[Bruins]

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One game, the computer took off Ribery for Tymoschuk when down a goal. A DM for a AMR/L? Questionable...

Ribery plays centrally now. They have him lined up at CAM in FIFA.

[KG]

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I've yet to see a computer red card, but they average a yellow card every other game against me. Then again, I've been trying to draw fouls at the edge of the area (to work on my set pieces) by turning my back to the defender (RT) right before he comes in for a challenge.

Maxwell seems to be the backup LW for Barca. Down a goal they may bring in Maxwell for Henry. I was under the original impression that substitution logic is better, but I may have been completely wrong. One game, the computer took off Ribery for Tymoschuk when down a goal. A DM for a AMR/L? Questionable...

I think that's pretty realistic. I don't have stats to back it up but I'd venture that there's at least 1 yellow dished out a game per match.

Is Maxwell's position LW in the game? I didn't check it.

In the PK shootout I had it felt like the goalie was more responsive.

Also, when I was Juve Buffon was a lot more aggresive than Cech. GG was fired up back there on big saves.

[mebby]

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I have played both demos, FIFA and PES; while FIFA definitely better in many ways as been mentioned before; why does playing the PES AI seem more realistic. Actual midfield play in PES, FIFA seems always the same? Anyone else play both demos and see difference?

Yea - I do see what you're saying here. Maybe I'm just too materialistic and/or shallow when it comes to gaming, but for me, the horrible presentation of PES just really turns me off. I'm a big fan of sim-like sports games and this is first and foremost (usually) on my list of requirements and while FIFA doesn't get an A+ here they at least get a B to B+ and that's good enough to win me over.

Back in the day, I was all about PES b/c it beat out FIFA on the realism scale by a LONG shot. But today they are pretty close but FIFA has so much more to offer visually. Even the sound is better - I mean, what is up with the horrible sound that PES makes when coming into contact with the ball? Ever collide with two players and have the ball bounce in between them? When this happens it sounds like a 1980's arcade shooter game. It's just ridiculous.

Sorry - didn't mean to turn this into a PES rant. I used to love that game but I can't stand it now.

[mebby]

Re: FIFA Soccer 10 Demo Available in Europe (17th for US), Post Impressions Here

Really? That's something I think all of us wanted out of the game. I think the majority of us still think there are too many cut scenes still in the game. I guess in matters of opinion, no one can be wrong.

I'm definitely in the camp of wanting less cut scenes. I want the game to flow a little better. But it would be cool if they'd give us the option - more or less cut scenes. Sometimes it's cool to play with the cut scenes but 9 times out of 10 I'd prefer to just play the game without them.