Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

[slthree]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

i've been testing everything out in a franchise with modified coaching sliders. it definitely helps with the all-out blitz and blitzing in general. i've gotten really good games and the CPU is tough now. i just don't like the pass rush still...it's like nothing changed with that slider.

I can't wait until you guys have the franchise settings just right.

I'm only playing on exhibition so that may be why I'm seeing so many blitzes? In fairness, I would have to play a few more games to know.

I agree with the pass rush. Its tough to get there. And, the QB (Ryan, at least) is just getting rid of the ball as I'm about to sack him. Maybe that will be toned down just a bit for patch 2. I want to be reasonable here. A lot of good QB's do get rid of the ball. I just want it to be a bit less frequent.

[BroMontana82]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

i have had some games where the computer has only ran the ball 4-5 times a half. This is playing against running teams...maybe i just have to play a lil more, and see what happens

yeah use the coaching slider to test this out. i have gotten very realistic play calling. you need to test this in a franchise though.

I can't wait until you guys have the franchise settings just right.

I'm only playing on exhibition so that may be why I'm seeing so many blitzes? In fairness, I would have to play a few more games to know.

I agree with the pass rush. Its tough to get there. And, the QB (Ryan, at least) is just getting rid of the ball as I'm about to sack him. Maybe that will be toned down just a bit for patch 2. I want to be reasonable here. A lot of good QB's do get rid of the ball. I just want it to be a bit less frequent.

i think dfos's original slow sliders with some tweaks are very good right now. using his original coach sliders, i have found the blitzing to be toned down a lot. you still get the occassional all out blitz, but after a few games i noticed this won't happen all the time on the 3rd and long. this of course, makes it more realistic and harder as you won't have a guaranteed first knowing the CPU will be leaving the slot guy open. i found perfect sliders for me right now that i'm going to post in his new thread later on.

for the pass rush, i was hoping the slider would be more effective. it seems like it's unchanged which was a big letdown for me. and yeah, i agree about the Robo-QB. it really better be tweaked in patch 2.

[Tick32]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

There is a lot of improvement.

However I noticed two new glitches.

1. On 2nd and 10 a WR caught a ball way out of bounds, both feet on the white sideline. The referees conferred, ruled it a completion, but it was still 2nd and 10 at the original LOS. It looks like the play was ruled a non catch even though the referee animation was for a catch.

2. Mixed up team facts. During a franchise game with my Bears vs. the Bengals the ticker showed a Bengals Fact : the team used to be called the Decatur Staleys (that's a Bears fact.) Later during the same game there was a fact listed as a Bears fact, but it pertained to the Bengals.

Samething happened to me. guy was clearly out and got the 1st

[jira2004]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

that's the sliders i play with! Do you think there is any tweaking needed with them since the patch? how many times did AP actually carry the ball though? Have you changed anything with the sliders as well?

Pretty much everything is as is ......I think i change cpu run to 90 ...Brk tak to 40 cpu

[Tick32]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

Why are ppl saying the run block is better and ppl cant gain as much yardage now? i remember b4 patch. ppl were complaining about its hard to run the ball. Im not even sure if EA fixed anything in this patch at all. I think im not gonna buy madden 11 till i play and see that tackles are physics based. and gameplay isnt broken. Which is said becuz ive bought every madden since 99 and after 04 the game went down hill

[WilesThing]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

I see one of the fixes is for "improved pursuit angles on outside running plays".

No way is this fixed yet, get outside on a running play and I still see the CPU taking horrible angles, I see guys running backwards and straight downfield even though they have an angle.

They are giving me an extra 20-30 yards before they even attempt to use their angle. Even though they're ahead of me and have an angle to tackle me they are running parallel to the running back.

It also seems that sometimes when I get the corner some defenders are ignoring me (and their angle) and running backwards, turning what should have been a 3-4 yard run into an 11-12 yard run.

Agreed. I think it's easier to run to the outside now. You'll also notice that linebackers and safeties will start flowing to the outside on a toss or stretch play, but sometimes stop whenever the running back gets the ball, and then start pursuing again, even though their angle is now gone. I'm pretty sure the angles have gotten worse since the patch.

[johnny4LSU]

GREAT first patch EA! LOVE it

[Moegames]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

only thing i noticed that is really irritating post patch is that:

1. The computer hardly EVER runs the ball...all they do is throw

2. Play action is not effective....

anyone have any suggestions? I can live with #2 but the computer should run the ball more than 2 times a half.

Man i just got trampled on in a few games since the patch via their running game..

[Moegames]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

after a few games, my first instinct is to say the patch makes the game worse. but the only reason i would say that is because i had the sliders pretty good before, and now everything is a bit out of whack. im sure the patch improved the game, we all just need to find a new set of sliders to go with it. thats frusterating.

i might delete the patch and stick with what i had before, cuz honestly i wasnt unhappy with the game before.

dude..you MUST redo the sliders, i actually felt the same way at first then i decied to just delete all my saves and start over..new sliders,etc and this game is nice with the patch..heck it was decent before the patch with my custom sliders but post patch it feels even better with my new custom sliders, just reset your sliders if you dont want to lose anything.

[ch46647]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

I cannot play Madden on-line (which I like to do from time to time) unless they fix the "flats" issue. If I blitz anybody the flats are wide open every time. I bet 80% of passes completed on-line are to the RB's. Any news if this will be fixed for the second patch?

Thanks!

[goh]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

Well lesse...

It's caused my offensive players to mysteriously be playing on defense.
Framerate drops on big plays now.
Increase in AI kick return ability having them start at the 30 almost every time now.
AANNNDDD
The replays still get cut off.

Quite the impressive screw up.

[Aztec]

I appreciate that other people are bringing this up. I was really dissapointed that the AFL pack didn't correct the Chargers' throwback helmets. Not only are the bolts wrong, the facemask looks white. It should be gray like the majority of the other AFL throwback helmets. If they actually did fix the 49ers helmet color in a patch, I hope the same guy can fix the Chargers' helmet. It looks terrible.

[Blaxican8504]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

I'm bummed that the patch didn't fix the 49ers helmet. It looks like the fix is attached to the AFL DLC.

[huskerwr38]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

As always with Madden, they are a lot of new problems with the patch that didn't happen before.

-For instance, the ticker shows wrong facts for teams now.

-Sometimes the refs rule an incomplete pass a catch when it was a drop or clearly out of bounds, but luckily the game doesn't actually rule it that way.

-The WR STILL don't try and actually stay in bounds when they catch the ball, it seems the patch just increased the amount of times they do the cut scene with the refs making the call, which is wrong half the time.

-A LOT more holding penalties on kick off returns.

-Kick off returns are MUCH easier now, I always can get past the 30 yard line on kick offs or a TD about every other game now.

Some good things:
-The run game is a little better.

-I love the new AFL uniforms, but I guess thats not patch related.

-And I don't see as many pick sixes.

[LAKE4742]

Re: Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

After having more time with the patch:


THE GOOD

The game now feels more physical.

The blockers hold their blocks better, but not unrealistically (accurate to ratings).

Coverage overall is better.

I was a bit off base about the Broadcast Cam. I spectated my first game, and it didn't look distorted or weird like I intially thought, just too far away. I turned the commentary up, and it was an okay experience. I like how even with replays off, they show automatically during specator mode. And, even though the CPU teams play the game fast, they still show a few cutscenes here and there.


THE BAD (REALLY BAD)

RB slant routes! The RB walking out of the backfield!!! What?!! On one play, I even saw John Henderson (DT) walk after the ball was snapped!! These are not good ways to remedy gameplay problems!!! It seems that all devs can think of nowadays is slowing the game down, or making characters dumb, instead of working on better A.I.

Although the blockers block better, the way it's achieved sometimes is totally in line with the already major problems with this engine!!! Sometimes, DE's will attempt to tackle the ballcarrier out of the backfield, and backpeddle BACK to the LOS to be blocked!!! C'mon EA!!! Noone asked for that!!!

The Broadcast Cam is okay, but, it pauses when there's a INT! That's cheeeeeesy!!!!! We don't want gimmicks!!! We just want what we see on T.V.!!! The screen doesn't freeze when there's an INT, on Sunday!!

And instead of toning down breaking tackles, you made it worse!!!!!

THE WHATEVER

Very Fast speed definitely seems a bit slower. But, it feels even more accurate to real NFL speed, especially the throwing.

I think they increased the fatigue effect a lil too much. At 50, it's hard to tell who has fatigue ratings in the 90's.

KO returns almost seem easier.

What's up with blocks on the back of the helmets????



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