XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

[XFLOutLaw]

These sliders are not made to make the game harder but to make the gameplay more realistic to its NFL counterparts.



Ok this is my first ever attempt to create sliders for a madden game and I think I did pretty good. I've read up on other sliders and tested others and there are some good ones out there like.....http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football-sliders/359141-dfos81s-sliders-slow-speed-ready-testing.html....and...http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football-sliders/347566-playmakers-madden-10-custom-sliders.html. After a few of you guys tested my sliders i was told CPU couldnt really establish a running game expecially teams with fast backs. After a couple days of review and slider tests, the threshold of 60 wasnt very good for fast backs who normally arent great tackle breakers. So I've played a couple of games and test through the practice mode and I think i have found a good slider set that makes the game similar to a real NFL and allowing fast backs to make impacts on the games like they should.

Here are the stats form my game I just played with the new slider sets the game was an offensive shootout like it would be in real life for both teams.


Game Stats: Green Bay Packers at New Orleans Saints (ME)

Score:
GB 31 NO 45

Total Offense:
GB 470 NO 403

Rushing:
GB 163 NO 115

Passing:
GB 307 No 268

First Downs:
GB 16 NO 16

Total Yards:
GB 706 NO 642

Turnovers:
GB 1 NO 1

3RD Down:
GB 9-14 (64%) NO 10-13 (76%)

Red Zone:
GB 3-4 (75%) NO 4-4 (100%)

TOP:
GB 24:59 NO 27:01

Total Plays: GB 60 NO 53 (113)

Player Stats:
Passing:

• GB A.Rodgers rtg 108.0 Comp 28 Att 40 yds 317 comp% 70 td 3 int 1 avg 7.9 long 51
• NO D.Brees rtg 126.2 comp 18 att 28 yds 308 comp% 64 td 4 int 1 avg 11.0 long 54

Rushing:

• NO P.Thomas att 23 yds 109 avg 4.7
• NO R.Bush att 2 yds 6 avg 3.0 td 1
• GB R.Grant att 18 yds 149 avg 8.2 td 1
• GB B.Jackson att 1 yds 18 avg 18.0

Receiving:

• GB D.Driver rec 9 yds 93 avg 10.3
• GB J.Nelson rec 5 yds 103 avg 20.6 td 2
• GB G.Jennings rec 4 yds 56 avg 14.0
• NO M.Colston rec 4 115 avg 28.7 td 2
• NO J.Shockey rec 3 yds 63 avg 21.0
• NO R.Meachem rec 3 yds 61 avg 20.3 td 1

Defense:

• NO S.Shanle Solo 4 Ast 1 INT 1
• NO S.Fujita Solo 4 Ast 1 TFL 1
• NO J.Vilma Solo 4 Ast 2 TFL 1
• GB C.Matthews Solo 4 Ast 2 TFL 3 Sack 2
• GB A.Harris Solo 3
• GB A.Hawk Solo 3 AST 2 TFL 3 sack 1

Now with the new sliders......

Game Settings
Game Speed Slow
Player Min Speed Threshold 50
Play Style Hardcore
Fight for the Fumble Off

13 Min Qrts
20 sec runoff

Penalty Settings
PENALTIES EVERYTHING AT 100 ACCEPT HOLDING-52, FACEMASK-67, CLIPPING-77. based off of
Playmakers Madden 10 Custom Sliders


Player Skill:
Passing 12
QB Acc: 50
Pass Blocking: 24
WR Catching: 40

Rushing 15
Broken Tackles: 27
Run Blocking: 20
Fumbles: 30

Pass Defense 15
Reaction Time: 18
Interceptions: 5
Pass Rushing: 55

Rush Defense 10
Reaction Time: 90 for a more realistic defensive flow for running plays
Block Shedding: 20
Tackling: 30


CPU Skills

Passing 10
QB Accuracy: 50
Pass Blocking: 48
WR Catching: 41

Rushing 10
Broken Tackles: 47
Run Blocking: 61
Fumbles: 30

Pass Defense 12
Reaction Time: 45
Interceptions: 5
Pass Rushing: 59

Rush Defense 7
Reaction Time: 100 again to emulate real defense reaction time against the run
Block Shedding: 50
Tackling: 34

Special Teams Sliders
Field Goal Power: 51
Punt Power: 52
Kickoff Power: 47 right outside the goalline like kickoffs in real life

Optional Sliders :
Fight for the Fumble Off

Sub Out/Sub In Sliders: based off of DB'S Stat Accurate Sliders (Slow game Speed) good auto sub slider set for more realistic subs star players not in all the time (tired)

Offense
QB: 0/80
RB: 79/80
WR: 79/80
FB: 60/80
OL: 60/80

Defense
DT: 79/80
DE: 79/80
LB: 40/80
CB: 40/80
S: 40/80


PLEASE PLAY A COUPLE OF GAMES WITH THESE AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THEM AND POST STATS OF A GAME IF YOU'D LIKE FOR BETTER FEEDBACK THANKS!!!!!


UPDATES WILL BE IN BOLD BLACK

[JkA3]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

Interesting. I like what I see. I'll give them a shot to see how they play out and post my results (likely on Tuesday).

[XFLOutLaw]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

Interesting. I like what I see. I'll give them a shot to see how they play out and post my results (likely on Tuesday).

Please do...im interested to see if someone else has good results like i did.

[jonmchugh007]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

Hey mate just played a Play Now game using Texans (me) vs Giants. It was a fun game to play I scored on a 1 yard run by Steve Slaton with 30 seconds left to take lead 23-20.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>
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It was a defensive game for the most part. The Giants played great defense shutting me out 3-0 in the 1<SUP>st</SUP> quarter. I in return shut them out in the 2<SUP>nd</SUP> quarter Manning couldn’t get anything going at all. Something really weird happened in the 2<SUP>nd</SUP>. I had a great drive going mid-way through the quarter. Steve Slaton broke a 20 yard run and ran it down at the 1 yard line. He lost the ball trying to leap into the endzone and the Giants recovered the ball at their own 1 yard line. The very next play I pick Manning off and walk the ball into the endzone to take a 13-3 lead. That right there was the play of the game. In the 3<SUP>rd</SUP>, Manning hooked up with Hixon on a 62 yard TD pass to make the score 13-10. Late in the 3<SUP>rd</SUP>, I had a nice drive going getting to about midfield. Hand the ball to Slaton and he caughs the ball up again. Another turnover. The Giants take advantage and march down the field on a 7 minute drive and cap it off on a 14 yard TD catch by Boss. Score is 17-14 Giants going into the 4<SUP>th</SUP> quarter.<o></o>
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I tied the game at 17 a piece on a 40 yard FG with 9:54 remaining. It went back and forth defensively until Tynes hit a 44 yarder with 2:53 to play and made the score 20-17 Giants. I get the ball back with 2:30 left to play and drive down the field. I have 1<SUP>st</SUP> and goal at the 1 yard line with 20 seconds left, hand it off to Slaton who dives in for the game winning score. I win 23-17.<o></o>
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It was a really fun game. The giants passed well, played good defense and gave me a good dose of Jacobs and Bradshaw. I would like to see the CPU run more maybe up the human rush D reaction time by 10 or so? I think that would do it. <o></o>
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Here are some stats:<o></o>
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Giants: 3, 0, 14, 3: 20<o></o>
Texans: 0, 13, 0, 10: 23<o></o>
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Giants / Texans<o></o>
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Total offense: 344 / 332 <o></o>
Rushing yards: 59 / 63<o></o>
Passing yards: 285 / 269<o></o>
First downs: 13 / 16<o></o>
Turnovers: 1 / 2 <o></o>
3<SUP>rd</SUP> down: 6-11 / 6-10<o></o>
T.O.P: 19:59 / 28:01<o></o>
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So just by looking at those stats it was a pretty fairly evenly matched game and a fun game to play. Here are some player numbers<o></o>
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Schaub: 21 / 31, 276 yards,<o></o>
Manning: 18 / 30, 285 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT<o></o>
Slaton: 18 carries / 54 yards 1 TD / 6 catches / 95 yards<o></o>
Jacobs: 14 carries / 48 yards <o></o>
Bradshaw: 2 carries / 7 yards<o></o>
Smith: 5 rec / 80 yards<o></o>
Boss: 2 rec / 26 yards 1TD<o></o>
Johnson: 8 rec / 78 yards <o></o>
Daniels: 6 rec / 93 yards<o></o>
There you have it. Sorry for the long write up thought you’d like some detailed info for testing. Will play some more games tomorrow.<o></o>
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Overall, good and fun game to play. Very competitive. Never thought like I was out of the game nor did I feel I was in control the entire game.<o></o>
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Keep up the great work, Jon<o></o>

[XFLOutLaw]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

Hey mate just played a Play Now game using Texans (me) vs Giants. It was a fun game to play I scored on a 1 yard run by Steve Slaton with 30 seconds left to take lead 23-20.ffice:office" /><o>></o>>
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It was a defensive game for the most part. The Giants played great defense shutting me out 3-0 in the 1^st quarter. I in return shut them out in the 2^nd quarter Manning couldn’t get anything going at all. Something really weird happened in the 2^nd. I had a great drive going mid-way through the quarter. Steve Slaton broke a 20 yard run and ran it down at the 1 yard line. He lost the ball trying to leap into the endzone and the Giants recovered the ball at their own 1 yard line. The very next play I pick Manning off and walk the ball into the endzone to take a 13-3 lead. That right there was the play of the game. In the 3^rd, Manning hooked up with Hixon on a 62 yard TD pass to make the score 13-10. Late in the 3^rd, I had a nice drive going getting to about midfield. Hand the ball to Slaton and he caughs the ball up again. Another turnover. The Giants take advantage and march down the field on a 7 minute drive and cap it off on a 14 yard TD catch by Boss. Score is 17-14 Giants going into the 4^th quarter.<o>></o>>
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I tied the game at 17 a piece on a 40 yard FG with 9:54 remaining. It went back and forth defensively until Tynes hit a 44 yarder with 2:53 to play and made the score 20-17 Giants. I get the ball back with 2:30 left to play and drive down the field. I have 1^st and goal at the 1 yard line with 20 seconds left, hand it off to Slaton who dives in for the game winning score. I win 23-17.<o>></o>>
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It was a really fun game. The giants passed well, played good defense and gave me a good dose of Jacobs and Bradshaw. I would like to see the CPU run more maybe up the human rush D reaction time by 10 or so? I think that would do it. <o>></o>>
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Here are some stats:<o>></o>>
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Giants: 3, 0, 14, 3: 20<o>></o>>
Texans: 0, 13, 0, 10: 23<o>></o>>
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Giants / Texans<o>></o>>
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Total offense: 344 / 332 <o>></o>>
Rushing yards: 59 / 63<o>></o>>
Passing yards: 285 / 269<o>></o>>
First downs: 13 / 16<o>></o>>
Turnovers: 1 / 2 <o>></o>>
3^rd down: 6-11 / 6-10<o>></o>>
T.O.P: 19:59 / 28:01<o>></o>>
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So just by looking at those stats it was a pretty fairly evenly matched game and a fun game to play. Here are some player numbers<o>></o>>
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Schaub: 21 / 31, 276 yards,<o>></o>>
Manning: 18 / 30, 285 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT<o>></o>>
Slaton: 18 carries / 54 yards 1 TD / 6 catches / 95 yards<o>></o>>
Jacobs: 14 carries / 48 yards <o>></o>>
Bradshaw: 2 carries / 7 yards<o>></o>>
Smith: 5 rec / 80 yards<o>></o>>
Boss: 2 rec / 26 yards 1TD<o>></o>>
Johnson: 8 rec / 78 yards <o>></o>>
Daniels: 6 rec / 93 yards<o>></o>>
There you have it. Sorry for the long write up thought you’d like some detailed info for testing. Will play some more games tomorrow.<o>></o>>
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Overall, good and fun game to play. Very competitive. Never thought like I was out of the game nor did I feel I was in control the entire game.<o>></o>>
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Keep up the great work, Jon<o>></o>>

It sounded like it was a good game...as far as the computer running the ball more there isnt much you can change about their play calling unless you create a franchise controlling all 32 teams and move their run/pass ratio to favor more of the run but i noticed that too... and as far as me changing the human def reaction +10 thats a little high maybe 3-5 range will be good ill have to play around with it to see... I will be playing games to update the slider for a more real feel to the game constantly so continue to check back if i notice more of the problems with the fumbles too...also thank you for you feedback.

[Young_Chaos]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

Giants(me)59 vs Philly(cpu)7

Passing
Manning 22-29 283yds 3td 1int

McNabb 17-26 177yds 1td 1int

Rushing
Jacobs 28att 148yds 2tds
Bradshaw 3att 19yds 1td
Hedgecock 1att 9yds
Manning 1att -2yds

Westbrook 13att 39yds
McNabb 2att 1yd

Receiving
Smith 8rec 122yds 2td
Boss 7rec 92yds 1td
Jacobs 4rec 29yds
Hixon 2rec 31yds
Johnson 1rec 9yds

Maclin 7rec 100yds 1td
Westbrook 5rec 28yds
Jackson 2rec 18yds
Weaver 1rec 1yd
Celek 1rec 21yds
Curtis 1rec 9yds

Defense
1int 1fumble 2td

1int

Other
3rd(giants) 6-7
3rd(eagles) 4-11
3penalties for each team

Possession time
Giants 33:14
Eagles 18:46

Thoughts
The game felt pretty good and the stats were pretty good. It was just one of those games where everything just went my way and the eagles could never get anything going. Despite the score i think we should make their run game slightly better. I know we dnt want speed backs numbers getting inflated but westbrook should be way better even against a great defense like the giants. Sorry for the long post but i plan on trying to help you create the best game possible. Great Base though

[XFLOutLaw]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

Giants(me)59 vs Philly(cpu)7

Passing
Manning 22-29 283yds 3td 1int

McNabb 17-26 177yds 1td 1int

Rushing
Jacobs 28att 148yds 2tds
Bradshaw 3att 19yds 1td
Hedgecock 1att 9yds
Manning 1att -2yds

Westbrook 13att 39yds
McNabb 2att 1yd

Receiving
Smith 8rec 122yds 2td
Boss 7rec 92yds 1td
Jacobs 4rec 29yds
Hixon 2rec 31yds
Johnson 1rec 9yds

Maclin 7rec 100yds 1td
Westbrook 5rec 28yds
Jackson 2rec 18yds
Weaver 1rec 1yd
Celek 1rec 21yds
Curtis 1rec 9yds

Defense
1int 1fumble 2td

1int

Other
3rd(giants) 6-7
3rd(eagles) 4-11
3penalties for each team

Possession time
Giants 33:14
Eagles 18:46

Thoughts
The game felt pretty good and the stats were pretty good. It was just one of those games where everything just went my way and the eagles could never get anything going. Despite the score i think we should make their run game slightly better. I know we dnt want speed backs numbers getting inflated but westbrook should be way better even against a great defense like the giants. Sorry for the long post but i plan on trying to help you create the best game possible. Great Base though

I was thinking the same thing but i wasnt too sure....the thing that is probably killing westbrook is that threshold....it isnt the best for fast rbs....ill look in to it...maybe better blocking for cpu thanks for your input working on it now

[XFLOutLaw]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

ok big update coming..needed for fast players to make impact in game just payed a game of my own and the westbrook was shut down for like 1.7 yrds a carry working hard to put update out soon


fast players should make and impact like so...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am7JQ5P0Es8.....skip to 0:15...not always like this but a big difference in what we are getting now in the game

[Young_Chaos]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

ok big update coming..needed for fast players to make impact in game just payed a game of my own and the westbrook was shut down for like 1.7 yrds a carry working hard to put update out soon


fast players should make and impact like so...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am7JQ5P0Es8.....skip to 0:15...not always like this but a big difference in what we are getting now in the game

Cant wait to see them

[XFLOutLaw]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

ill post more stats of another game tomorrow please use these sliders and give me some feedback along with stats of the game or games you played with these...again this isnt to make the game harder its to make the game a little more realistic to play thanks again

[XFLOutLaw]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

Sorry i took a couple of days off. Another update on the sliders. Huge update on defense on both sides of the ball, it was too easy to score before. Just played a really close game with these sliders going down to the 2 minute drill offense to win the game.....
1 2 3 4 F
Falcons /7 /6 /3 /3 / 19

Broncos /3 /0 /7 /10 / 20

Total Offense:
ATL: 324 DEN: 244

Rushing:
ATL: 184 DEN: 63

Passing:
ATL: 140 DEN: 181

First Downs:
ATL: 16 DEN: 12

Total Yards:
ATL: 392 DEN: 453

Turnovers:
ATL: 1 DEN: 0

TOP:
ATL 29:03 DEN: 22:57

PLAYER STATS:

Passing:

• K.Orton rtg 104.2 comp 20 att 31 yds 200 comp% 64 td 2
• M.Ryan rtg 82.1 comp 11 att 18 yds 146 comp % 61 td 1 int 1

Rushing:

• M.Turner att 32 yds 162 avg 5.2
• C.Buckhalter att 17 yds 65 avg 3.8
• J.Norwood att 5 yds 19 avg 3.8

Receiving:

• E.Royal rec 6 yds 72 avg 12.0 td 1
• B.Marshall rec 4 yds 31 avg 7.7 td 1
• D.Graham rec 4 yds 37 avg 9.2
• J. Gaffney rec 3 yds 43 avg 14.3
• T.Gonzalez rec 3 yds 70 avg 23.3
• R.White rec 2 yds 35 avg 17.5
• M.Booker rec 2 yds 17 avg 8.5
• M.Jenkins rec 2 yds 6 avg 3.0

Defense:

• A.Davis solo 7 ast 1 tfl 1
• K.Peterson solo 6 ast 1 tfl 1
• J.Abraham solo 5 ast 1 tfl 2 sack 2
• B.Dawkins solo 5 ast 5
• E. Coleman solo 4 ast 3
• C.Lofton solo 4 ast 6 tfl 1
• T.Johnson solo 3 ast 1 tfl 2 sack 1

Total Plays: 105
ATL: 56 DEN: 49

ATL was run heavy with Turner so it killed some time off of the clock.

Hope you enjoy the update again PLEASE POST SOME FEEDBACK.

[winrehs]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

Most of the sliders are good but needs to adjust some parts...Naturally depends on the user...

[XFLOutLaw]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

Most of the sliders are good but needs to adjust some parts...Naturally depends on the user...

what needs to be fixed in your opinion...post some stats of a game so i can see what you are saying.

[x30 Pack Patx]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

These are the best sliders I have come across post-patch! Played two games with them and they work great! I would post my game stats but I am kinda lazy. LOL. I can tell you, however, that I played with the Texans against the Raiders and the Cardinals. Beat the raiders 24-21 and lost to the cardinals 27-21. Both games were very realistic. The only thing, if I may, that I saw wrong was the fact that even with Mario Williams I was not able to sack either QB. I tried different blitzes to help my front four but couldn't bring them down. Hurried them but didn't sack them. If you could tweak that a bit it would be awsome! The game flow seemed great. If you could figure something out for the pass rush you would have the perfect sliders! I am working on the penalty sliders because there have only been 4 penalties in the last two games for me and the CPU. I will let you know what I come up with. I remember espically a couple times running with Slaton and breaking defenders ankles ankles only to fumble. That is very realistic! Good Job Outlaw.

[Cras]

Re: XFLOutLaw's Real Sim Custom Sliders (Post Patch)

These are the BEST sliders I have tried by far.

It actually feels like I am playing an NFL football game. It is hard to score, you really feel like you are battling for position, on both sides of the ball, and there is still the ability to pull off the big play downfield.

After trying a few other sets on these boards and finding them far from satisfactory, I saw these and gave them a go, and am loving them.

Great work!